what the???

[tsf]

i got a 9600 pro, 2.4c ghz, 1 gb ram, intel 865 gbf mobo.

i wasn't able to play any of the Prince of Persia game over 45 fps on my pc. its the same in the lowest settings as it is in the highest setting.
only The 2 Thrones went up to 55 fps.

does the game have some frame limiter?(e.g-GTA:SA) if not, what am i doin wrong??? it stays the same even after oc'ing.

 

[TabrisDarkPeace]

i got a 9600 pro

Well, you got it in one right there.

The Radeon 9600 Pro is only a 4 pipeline card, modern cards.... like the Radeon X800 XL/XT and GeForce 6800 GT are 16 pipeline cards.

We need heaps more info, like resolution, colour depth, FSAA in use or not, texture quality, shader settings, etc of the various games..... but chances are it is the 4 pipeline video card holding them back..... It could also be a CPU bound performance ceiling in said games. (2.4 GHz Pentium 4 isn't that great in some games).

That... and the games themselves may be poorly coded or simply not optimized well.

 

[222Doc]

its not the cpu its gpu, i have almost the same set up. a 9700pro@351corx324mem and a 2.4c@ 3.12, 2gigs xms corsair on a p4800 asus, 2raptors in raidO. test show no gain when the cpu is oced in gaming but a big jump in other apps. on the other hand the 10% oced 9700pro shows a bit better in gamingand i load up maps online almost first every time. i play BF2 about 80% of the time with this pc med and low settings on line @800x600res. I played COD2 as well just fine. my rig needs a new Vcard to get the full effect but for comps it works well. thinking about getting a 7800gs(300$) as a final upgarde to this. with vista coming and DX10, also M$ might make ECC memory needed again thier is just to many changes in the next year to be buying any new rig or top cards right now.

 

[unsmart]

Get atitools and OC it a bit see if the frames go up. http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/ I had that card it OCs well.

 

[tsf]

i told u, every game is at max @1024x768 (4x AA)

the 2 thrones has more graphical power than the rest, then how come it averages 55 fps?? what do u guys average anyways?

 

[222Doc]

i only play on line, the load on line is more i have tried the higher resolution but i see lag even in a 24 man server. so i keep it at the lower. fps not sure i realy only care if its playible. what i am using right now works up to about 60 people on line as long as the server is good. i would guess it is bordline at 25-30fps? on the edge. but the 9700pro is older than a 9600 of anytype. though i think the 9700 has 4 pipes. not sure about the 9600's there is a few differant ones pro,xt,se plain? like someone esle said its also partly do to the game engine, bf2 is about as bugged as anyone could write. but there is so much going on it that game online. i use this to oc the vcard, radlinker

http://www28.brinkster.com/chrisww1942/

 

[sojrner]

wow, a bit off there. The 9700 is older, but it is an 8 pipe card and better than the 9600. I still run it oc'd and it rocks. It was ati's flagship that was the first of any card to support sm2.0. Came out against the geforce4 ti and stomped it. The 9800pro is just an upclocked 9700pro (minor arch changes). Testament to how rockin that architecture was is that nvidia could not beat it until the 6 series! (*cough* 5 series did ok, but just stumbled on pic quality and frames in dx9b games *cough*) Perhaps ati was resting too much on it and that is why they are playing catch up now?...

anyway, the 9600 is a completly different chip. the 9500 was a pared down 9700 but the 9600 is just different and is a 4 pipe card. It was the first ati card on the smaller manufacturing process and did not need the extra power connector like the 9700/9800. It performs much lower than the 9700. (this is assuming we are talking about the pro versions of all of em) Look at the agp charts on tom's. I have a friend with a p4 2.8 and 9600 pro and cannot compete with my athlon2700 with 9700pro. (proc is obviously better but gpu much worse)

either way, I agree with the above that the gpu is the issue. It is just plain old. (I am finally upgrading my system) I have seen my friend run FEAR, but at 800x600 with nothing turned on. Mine will do same resolution with some stuff on. (no soft shadows or AA) These cards have just finally hit the limit. (i assume PoP is similar to newer games, i have never played it) Time to upgrade.

The cpu is also an issue, but much less than the gpu. if you are going to upgrade I would recomend doing both, which would mean new mobo and prb ram too. (depending on proc)

The versions of the game performing different could be coding differences in game or drivers.