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p8ntslinger676   03-05-2006 at 07:05:28 AM

Ok i am helping my friend Jake build a computer for gaming and AutoCad 2006 i suggested get dual core cus first of all hes using Auto Cad and he does a lot of things at once, the 4400 costs $500 and the 170 costs $430, is the opteron better, i know you can overclock them more but it only has half the FSB so im not sure can you help me help him. Or would it be better to go with the 175???

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p8ntslinger676   03-05-2006 at 07:06:19 AM
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O and hes going to play games like CS:S and BF2. And he is going to Overclock so im not sure.

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MadModMike   03-05-2006 at 07:08:19 AM
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Ok i am helping my friend Jake build a computer for gaming and AutoCad 2006 i suggested get dual core cus first of all hes using Auto Cad and he does a lot of things at once, the 4400 costs $500 and the 170 costs $430, is the opteron better, i know you can overclock them more but it only has half the FSB so im not sure can you help me help him. Or would it be better to go with the 175???



Both of those processors have the same 1000MHz HyperTransport Front Side Bus. I would recommend getting the 170 to save money, or if $$ is not an issue, grab the 175. Don't bother with Athlon X2's unless there is 0% chance of overclocking.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

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Caboose-1   03-05-2006 at 07:08:28 AM
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For his application, assuming he does Auto more than gaming, would be IMHO the Opt. Ive just had better experience with opt processors in programs like CAD.

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cisco   03-05-2006 at 07:14:13 AM
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What mad mod mike said plus you can get the 170 shipped 2 day air for 406.00 at zipzoomfly.com and the 4400 for 458.00 I believe.

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p8ntslinger676   03-05-2006 at 07:14:27 AM
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So yall say go with the Opty, Im running a Athlon 64 4000 and i thought that the opty would be better, ive heard great things about them. and whats up with them saying the other processors, FX, Athlon 64, X2, run at 2000Mhz?

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MadModMike   03-05-2006 at 07:17:27 AM
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So yall say go with the Opty, Im running a Athlon 64 4000 and i thought that the opty would be better, ive heard great things about them. and whats up with them saying the other processors, FX, Athlon 64, X2, run at 2000Mhz?



All AMD64 CPU's (excluding socket 754) run at 1000MHz. But that is 1000MHz FULL DUPLEX. What that means is it Sends and Receives 1000MHz at the same time, giving it an effective 2000MHz operation.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

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Caboose-1   03-05-2006 at 07:17:35 AM
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As far as FSB goes, Ive rarely noticed differences between those processors in things like CAD. I really like the Opteron, a fine processor.

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pengwin   03-05-2006 at 07:17:57 AM
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opty.

its cheaper and if he sgonna OC it'll be fine

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p8ntslinger676   03-05-2006 at 07:22:19 AM
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Good now i know the real facts behind their lableing so thankyou and i will tell him to go with the opty THANK ALL OF YOU WHO RESPONDED!! :D

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Caboose-1   03-05-2006 at 07:24:11 AM
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Tell him to OC that sumbeesh

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p8ntslinger676   03-05-2006 at 07:29:05 AM
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Im getting him the same mobo i have, Abit AN8-SLi, but i couldnt fine the fatal1ty version, can yall help me find one. I found a none Sli but he wants the Sli for future expandablility.

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Caboose-1   03-05-2006 at 07:31:53 AM
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Im getting him the same mobo i have, Abit AN8-SLi, but i couldnt fine the fatal1ty version, can yall help me find one.

That shits been discontinued, sorry! :(

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p8ntslinger676   03-05-2006 at 07:38:31 AM
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Damn cus i went to their website and it only says that the AN8-SLi was discontinued and not the Fatal1ty version, huu, thats weird.

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Caboose-1   03-05-2006 at 07:41:04 AM
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Thats too bad also because that ain't a bad mobo. Try an Asus Sli board, I ve always had good experiences with Asus and Antec alike.

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p8ntslinger676   03-05-2006 at 07:49:18 AM
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I was looking at one of the DFI mobos cus it was sli and it seemed to be pretty good, anyone know how good the DFI boards are, ive only heard good about them.

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Caboose-1   03-05-2006 at 07:51:40 AM
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I was looking at one of the DFI mobos cus it was sli and it seemed to be pretty good, anyone know how good the DFI boards are, ive only heard good about them.

Not bad, not outstanding, they are good boards nonetheless. Ill check into some on newegg(all hail newegg!).
EDIT: Didn't find any Opteron compatable DFI boards on newegg.
EDIT 2: Opteron mobos are hella expensive! $250 up

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p8ntslinger676   03-05-2006 at 07:55:37 AM
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I have found out that ZipZoomFly, NewEgg, and TigerDirect have the best deals, i found a deal for him, 2 gigs of OCZ PC4000 Platinum with a eVEGA 7800 GT for $609 is that a good deal, i thought so.

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Caboose-1   03-05-2006 at 07:58:49 AM
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I have found out that ZipZoomFly, NewEgg, and TigerDirect have the best deals, i found a deal for him, 2 gigs of OCZ PC4000 Platinum with a eVEGA 7800 GT for $609 is that a good deal, i thought so.

Not bad, could be better. A 7800GT can be had for $280+ I don't know how much that RAM costs but its most likely expensive. Price Range for parts(specific to each item)?

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p8ntslinger676   03-05-2006 at 08:08:37 AM
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$285 for the Ram, where is it $280 for the 7800GT???

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Luminaris   03-05-2006 at 03:07:38 PM
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I would get the opteron. If anything, save even more money and get the 165 since your gonna overclock it anyway.

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Caboose-1   03-05-2006 at 04:31:53 PM
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I believe you can grab a 7800GT from Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130256
but anyway its a evga (gotta love em') for $285 before rebate and $265 after rebate. Has good reviews.

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pengwin   03-05-2006 at 05:32:29 PM
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no no non on


NO

the Abit Fatality non SLi was discontinued

the abit AN8 is discontinued

BUT

the Abit Fatility Sli version is not discontinued

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Prod [...] ode=240161

i honestly would buy that..its like 200+ bucks go with like MSI's dual X16 mobo better preformance or ASUS if ur an asus fan im not

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dizman   03-05-2006 at 07:18:04 PM
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I was looking at one of the DFI mobos cus it was sli and it seemed to be pretty good, anyone know how good the DFI boards are, ive only heard good about them.



I know I go against the grain on this but don't get me started on DFI boards. Had the SLI Expert for 3 weeks, never got it to run stabley, RMA'd (would have payed to have them take it back) got the Asus A8N32-SLI board, up and running stable in 40mins. Granted that was the only DFI board I've ever tried but it was a HORRIBLE experince I had. As most ppl say on the dfi-street boards "it's the best mobo for overclocking S939 cpus, IF you can get it working right in the first place"

Just my two cents, GRRRR

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wowchamp   03-05-2006 at 07:48:07 PM
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Must not have looked too hard for mobos that take the opteron on newegg.com. Any socket 939 mobo will take it, just like this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813136152

Dont go SLI, its a poor choice and a waste of money. In some cases SLI configurations of the same card perform worse then single cards of the same type do. And in the ones where its an improvement, its not worth the money. Their are more costs then just the extra card. You have to get a better PSU, the more expensive SLI board.. a power splitter cable (if your PSU doesnt have 2 of em). Then you have to consider the room, heat and power issues.

If he cant overclock then forget about dual core, its not worth it. Go with a fast single core CPU and learn how to OC. If he can and will OC, go with a opty 165.

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