for a while I was an Nvidia fan boy ...would only buy their video cards.......then the 9800pro came out and was like hmm..is nvidia that great? Then there was the fiasco with the 5 series...what a joke....Nvidia got pwned by ATI no doubt about it. And for the longest time I was with ATI and was quite happy.....all of a sudden Nvidia comes out with the 6800 and its a beast.....ATI answers with the x800 xt PE and here is where the trouble starts for me.....ATI totally screwed the pooch with that release....sure it was fast blah blah blah.......but was never availble only the x800pro which was just as expensive as the 6800gt which owned it. My point is now I will go with what is best and better yet is availble.....and I reiterate AVAILIBLE.....for too long have Nvidia and more so ATI done the paper launch only to find that the parts they are pimpin have never really materialized.....well I will stop ranting.....lol[/quote] If Im not mistaken, nVidia is quite a bit larger than ATi, and thus more reources established with reputable sources. Many high end gaming sites like voodoocomputers.com and the all-powerful Alienware( :roll: ) are way biased to nV when in truth both companies have their ups and downs. I suspect that ATi's rule of the super high end will abruptly end with the 7900. But seemingly the VGA manufacturers have been real pissy with ech other releasing new super highenders every month. Those unlucky few in Europe have just gotten ahold of the 1800 series, and then they hear about the 1900? Oh they got pissed. Especially after they just slammed 500 bucks on a 1800XT or something, I'd be pissed too, hell yeah.