Intel regains crown

As i predicted. Intel Conroe beats AMD.
Congratulations Intel and keep improving that chip. It beats AMD at its own thing. I now know that it is worth waiting. For now it has surpassed my most optimistic estimation. I am more than impressed. Real tests shall be the definitive factor but this is a awesome start.

That's right, so what else are they supposed to test it against?

Let us not forget, let's take a look at all of these forums and how everybody bashed even the conroe chips.

Its not a fact of whether or not Intel is using their chips against AMDs current lineup, its about showing us how they stack up and the performance gains they've been able to get out of their lower powered chips.

I'm not against AMD by any means and don't take this the wrong way man because its only my opinion. But, I do like seeing what strides Intel is making with their new lineup.

Well, The test was somewhat stupid, It does compare next gen to this gen. And Intel setup up the benchmarks and the systems.

However, the performance gains are very impressive. Intel looks like they finally realized where to put their research and got things straightened out.

Let me ask you this. We have all seen that you are very pre-disposed to liking Intel. If AnandTech went to the AMD booth, and showed benchmarks that AMD set up which had Socket AM2 beating a Pentium D or Conroe by 20%, would you believe it, or would you wait for the independent benchmarks.

I'd like to actually see an answer, since I know that most biased people tend to ignore questions like that.

I'd not believe them cause AMD can't put their hands on Conroe. If it's only compared to Pentium D yes i'd believe it since Pentium D is currently beaten by 939 so AM2 would just beat it more.

I wonder how many finger prints are on that crown..

yeah, that's a good call man. I bought my opty because I already had the board and memory for it. I just didn't feel like waiting for the next gens to come out.

Concur - We all need to wait for AMDs next release. Until then everything is still the way it is. But a small thing stuck in my brain a picture showing the AMD Processor as unknown? I'm not accusing anybody of anything but why show that picture? I know it's a BIOS flash issue but you still have to wonder and ponder?

Now before all the Intel Fans jump on me - I like AMD and Intel. Intel still makes good CPUs. Each company has their bennifits and drawbacks. Lets just compare apples to apples (or oranges to oranges).

Today Intel can enjoy the Day

heh, yeah, I enjoyed reading the reviews and hopefully, Conroe will make a mark.

I love my opty though and probably won't get rid of it for a long time. I will replace my 630 Prescott machine with a new Intel though. The thing is, those benchmarks were performed with a 2.66Ghz Conroe. Can't wait to see how the 3.0Ghz Conroe EE performs. Should be very interesting.

That is very true man. Intel can only compare to what's available today and until both AM2 and Conroe come out, we just won't know how they will compete.

I'm just happy that Intel has finally made some good things come to life and seems to be headed in the right direction.

i love this year... after 6 years the battle started all over again.

reminds of the 1GHZ war back in 2000-2001.... you guys remember???

intel will regain the crown.. hmmn can anyone tell me the last time they had it.

Yeah I was gonna say that or the Northwood era. Probably the P3 era though.

Oh my f*cking god, I love you. I can shut dvdpiddy and madmodmike the hell up now!

Oh my f*cking god, I love you. I can shut dvdpiddy and madmodmike the hell up now!

Yup - let me state the facts.

Intel = Faster

Any questions?

Hurrrraaayyyy

Oh MadModMike? Care to show your shame filled face? And Please - dont post the "those benchmarks are fake" and "its not comparing AM2" cause thats BS - AM2 is just a colder S939 - suck crap, and whats this ICM there refering to with woodcrest? HEH

The chipset on the Intel was 975X. AMD's chipset was the ATi 480, as Crossfire was needed.
More than fair battle. That was a heavily OC'ed X2 too. Also, DDR2-800 will certainly be supported by AMD and Intel soon to come.
I can't WAIT to overclock a single core Conroe...

I would expect woodcrest to beat current Opteron servers, which are approaching EOL anyway. However, I am anxious to see how is stacks up agains the 1207 pin Socket F Opterons, which is where the battel will really be fought.

The chipset on the Intel was 975X. AMD's chipset was the ATi 480, as Crossfire was needed.
More than fair battle. That was a heavily OC'ed X2 too. Also, DDR2-800 will certainly be supported by AMD and Intel soon to come.
I can't WAIT to overclock a single core Conroe...

i thought i read somewhere an interview with some intel guy and he was hinting overclocking to over 4ghz was posible!?!?

Yeah AM2's first cpu is the X2@2.8ghz and DDR2-800? THG already did DDR1-600 with an AMD and it did crap all, whats a bit more bandwidth going to do?

Conroe specs are prolly:
Intel Conroe @ 2.66ghz
FSB 1333
4mb Shared L2
SSE4

By the end of the year 3ghz is expected

These chips are colder then AMD's - either they gotta overclock and get the heat or underclock and loose more performance!!!

The Woodcrest - Whats this ICM? as Integrated Controller Memory?

finaly some nice benchmarks, and from reading and hearing about AM2, it wont be nothing more thne DDR2 mem upgrade that runs a bit cooler, but still, either or, this is great, nice in my opinion.

Not saying its going to be any good or not, but why do so many people keep citing benchmarks of AM2 that clearly state there is a memory controller bug, and expect that to be an accurate portrayal of what things will be like at launch?

That's very true... the true potential will come out when the 3.0Ghz EE comes out too. That should really make things very interesting.

Its not what's wrong, it actually more whats right. DDR2 667 is not the best that Conroe can do, so there is even more potential for Conroe to shine using DDR2-800. Unless some weird bug a la AM2 pops up.