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March 8, 2006 4:59:36 PM

Sooooo.. ive done alot of research and ive changed my mind a bit on the MOBO but this is what im thinking on getting.

Anyone care to replace any hardware without tell me to downgrade and overclock?




Pioneer Black ATAPI DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Read Model DVR-111D - OEM
Model #: DVR-111D
Item #: N82E16827129001



Thermaltake XASER, Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: VA8000BWS
Item #: N82E16811133154



ASUS Extreme AX1900XTX/2DHTV Radeon X1900XTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 CrossFire Ready Video Card - Retail
Model #: EAX1900XTX/2DHTV/512
Item #: N82E16814121553


Creative SOUND BLASTER X-Fi Platinum 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail
Model #: 70SB046000001
Item #: N82E16829102190


ENERMAX EG851AX-VH(W) FM EPS12V 660W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: EG851AX-VH(W) FM
Item #: N82E16817103438

CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 500 (PC 4000) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWINX2048-4000PT - Retail
Model #: TWINX2048-4000PT
Item #: N82E16820145596

AMD Athlon 64 FX60 Toledo 1GHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADAFX60CDBOX - Retail
Model #: ADAFX60CDBOX
Item #: N82E16819103608

Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD1500AHFD
Item #: N82E16822136011


ASUS A8N-SLI Premium Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: A8N-SLI Premium
Item #: N82E16813131540

Microsoft Windows XP Professional With SP2 - OEM
Model #: E85-04026
Item #: N82E16837102062

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March 8, 2006 5:57:33 PM

A damn Nice rig, and you are certainly entitled to pay the $1000-$1100 for an FX60, and $650+ for the 1900XTX (over an available Saphire 1900XT for $449, clocked only 25 Mhz slower!), if you indeed feel that is your destined path!

Hint 1:

Save ~$400 by getting an X2-4800+, and OCing it a mere 200 MHz to achieve your 1 frame/sec higher framerates, if that extra frame per second is crucial!

Hint 2:

You are also wasting $50-$60 by getting an SLI board vice a sinlge slot or even a Crossfire board....

Hint3:

X-Fi's are nice cards, but $200+ for a Platinum, to achieve the same sound a framerates as a system equipped with an X-Fi Music for $75?

No one wants to see you "downgrade", just trying to save you $575 and deliver 99% of the same framerates at high res in FEAR in the process....
March 8, 2006 6:04:03 PM

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A damn Nice rig, and you are certainly entitled to pay the $1000-$1100 for an FX60, and $650+ for the 1900XTX (over an available Saphire 1900XT for $449, clocked only 25 Mhz slower!), if you indeed feel that is your destined path!

Hint 1:

Save ~$400 by getting an X2-4800+, and OCing it a mere 200 MHz to achieve your 1 frame/sec higher framerates, if that extra frame per second is crucial!

Hint 2:

You are also wasting $50-$60 by getting an SLI board vice a sinlge slot or even a Crossfire board....

Hint3:

X-Fi's are nice cards, but $200+ for a Platinum, to achieve the same sound a framerates as a system equipped with an X-Fi Music for $75?

No one wants to see you "downgrade", just trying to save you $575 and deliver 99% of the same framerates at high res in FEAR in the process....


Hmmmmm.......

Your telling me the X2 4800 is only 1 FPS slower than the FX60? Im sure your being sarcastic but without OCing how much performance would I be losing?


The Asus X1900XTX is no different than the Saphire 1900XT other than Mhz? Ive been looking everywhere to some kind of side by side comparisons of these cards, if you have any reviews please post a link.

The MOBO I agree, but what MOBO do I get? DFI? Id love to stay with Asus if I could.

Ill look into the soundcard, seems like good advice.


Thanks for the tips! :)  :) 
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March 8, 2006 11:26:04 PM

Quote:
A damn Nice rig, and you are certainly entitled to pay the $1000-$1100 for an FX60, and $650+ for the 1900XTX (over an available Saphire 1900XT for $449, clocked only 25 Mhz slower!), if you indeed feel that is your destined path!

Hint 1:

Save ~$400 by getting an X2-4800+, and OCing it a mere 200 MHz to achieve your 1 frame/sec higher framerates, if that extra frame per second is crucial!

Hint 2:

You are also wasting $50-$60 by getting an SLI board vice a sinlge slot or even a Crossfire board....

Hint3:

X-Fi's are nice cards, but $200+ for a Platinum, to achieve the same sound a framerates as a system equipped with an X-Fi Music for $75?

No one wants to see you "downgrade", just trying to save you $575 and deliver 99% of the same framerates at high res in FEAR in the process....


Well you sold me on X1900XTX. Here is a good read on the subject.

http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_c...

Thanks for saving me some money, more to follow on your other hints.
March 9, 2006 1:03:04 AM

wow that's alot of $$$ for a pc parts but anyways one suggestion.........
either get a Crossfire board or dont get the SLI board. what's the point of SLI with an ati card :? :? :?
March 9, 2006 1:45:21 PM

OK! This is an update on the orignal purchase based on research and lots of great advice from this forum.



Pioneer Black ATAPI DVD Burner With 5X DVD-RAM Read Model DVR-111D - OEM
Model #: DVR-111D
Item #: N82E16827129001


Plextor instead?


Thermaltake XASER, Armor Series VA8000BWS Black Aluminum/Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: VA8000BWS
Item #: N82E16811133154

Good Case?


DFI LanParty UT RDX200 CF-DR Socket 939 ATI Radeon XPRESS 200 CrossFire ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: LP[UT] RDX200 CF-DR
Item #: N82E16813136165


2 x ATI 100-435801 Radeon X1900XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: 100-435801
Item #: N82E16814195002

I scaled down to the XT from the XTX but added another card, will I see alot of performance gain from this using CrossFire?


Update Creative SOUND BLASTER X-Fi Platinum 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail
Model #: 70SB046000001
Item #: N82E16829102190

I understood the advice about the savings without using the Platinum but I like the idea of surround sound and I didnt see the Music X-fi offering it

Update ENERMAX EG851AX-VH(W) FM EPS12V 660W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: EG851AX-VH(W) FM
Item #: N82E16817103438

Enough power for 2 X1900XL along with my other hardware?

CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 500 (PC 4000) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWINX2048-4000PT - Retail
Model #: TWINX2048-4000PT
Item #: N82E16820145596

Will this memory work with the DFI Mobo?


AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+ Toledo 1GHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4800CDBOX - Retail
Model #: ADA4800CDBOX
Item #: N82E16819103544

I saved alot going from the FX60 to the X2 4800. With the above config will I still be ok with this CPU or should I go FX60?


If I go with the 64 X2 4800 im going to want to OC to make up for the loss of Mhz, id like to goto 2.6 Mhz possibly 2.8 Mhz. I assume the best solution would be water cooling.

I have no experience with Water Cooling and was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction. Im concerned about Socket clearance on the MOBO and over problems with clearance anywhere else.


Thanks for the help, and please let me know what you think of this new system.

Even with another Vid card im still saving about $400.

Edit: Duhhh.. I forgot the HDD.

Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

So really im spending about the same, maybe $100 less. So the question is do I go with this setup or do I go with my orignal setup with a CrossFire DFI mobo?
March 9, 2006 6:17:29 PM

Damn whats a guy gotta do to get some help. :D 
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