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March 8, 2006 5:53:02 PM

Well, in the past DAY, there have been thousands of Intel Fanboy & Troll posts because of an Intel setup benchmark using these "Modified ATI Drivers" and an AMD DFI ATI Board that is known for bad performance, not sure why even all the neutral parties have become the hugest Intel Trolls lately, but it's pretty disgusting. I'll admit, I can be a flaming retarded fanboy alot of the time, but I bring extensive knowledge to the table and try not to flame for no reason, but there are at least 15 new threads started just because of these Conroe benchmarks, seriously, look at the facts:

1) It took Intel 3 years to Meet/Beat the K8

2) AMD has 2 new architectures/revisions planned for the next 12 months, K8L and K10.

3) Not saying the benchmarks were rigged, but what happened to "we don't believe what companies say"? It seems every "neutral" person is now an Intel Troll.

What happened? Everybody, even some AMD Fanboys, have become Intel Trolls overnight because of 1 day at IDF, wtf? I know there will be hundreds of Intel Fanboy posts saying "MadModMike, you're a stupid *** *** ** ***!" with never-ending insults, and that's fine, because I really don't care what any Intel troll has to say when they can't prove anything besides using TomsBiased.com, AnandsIntel.com, or IDF.

Let the flaming begin...

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

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March 8, 2006 6:01:47 PM

Here are your BenchMarks

These are interesting results without a doubt, notice they are comparing a mid range Conroe CPU with 667MHz mem (not the 800MHz that will it will be launched with), pitted against a future top end FX-62. Now AMD does have Socket AM2 awaiting launch with DDR2, but this is not expected to be a major performance leap, and maybe even a slight hit due to latencies.

This was Intel's 2.66GHz clocked Conroe (a non extreme version using underclocked RAM and not the 3GHz version that will be launched) being benched against AMD's future extreme version dual core FX 2.8GHz!

Clearly it appears that Intel's Conroe is going to come out strong and scale up fast, which may indeed make it one of the best overclockable chips to date, always a plus for enthusiasts!

If anything, it appears the tests were in AMD's favor.
March 8, 2006 6:03:05 PM

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Here are your BenchMarks

These are interesting results without a doubt, notice they are comparing a mid range Conroe CPU with 667MHz mem (not the 800MHz that will it will be launched with), pitted against a future top end FX-62. Now AMD does have Socket AM2 awaiting launch with DDR2, but this is not expected to be a major performance leap, and maybe even a slight hit due to latencies.

This was Intel's 2.66GHz clocked Conroe (a non extreme version using underclocked RAM and not the 3GHz version that will be launched) being benched against AMD's future extreme version dual core FX 2.8GHz!

Clearly it appears that Intel's Conroe is going to come out strong and scale up fast, which may indeed make it one of the best overclockable chips to date, always a plus for enthusiasts!

If anything, it appears the tests were in AMD's favor.


Read the first post buddy, AnandIntel.com doesn't count Intel Troll.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 6:10:21 PM

:p  That's the ticket Mike, call names when you're feeling beat. What's next, a slapfight? :wink:
March 8, 2006 6:13:04 PM

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:p  That's the ticket Mike, call names when you're feeling beat. What's next, a slapfight? :wink:


How am I beat? I don't work at AMD or Intel and had nothing to do with either CPU's creation, what beat me and what do I have that got beat?

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 6:16:51 PM

Quote:
Well, in the past DAY, there have been thousands of Intel Fanboy & Troll posts because of an Intel setup benchmark using these "Modified ATI Drivers" and an AMD DFI ATI Board that is known for bad performance, not sure why even all the neutral parties have become the hugest Intel Trolls lately, but it's pretty disgusting. I'll admit, I can be a flaming retarded fanboy alot of the time, but I bring extensive knowledge to the table and try not to flame for no reason, but there are at least 15 new threads started just because of these Conroe benchmarks, seriously, look at the facts:

1) It took Intel 3 years to Meet/Beat the K8

2) AMD has 2 new architectures/revisions planned for the next 12 months, K8L and K10.

3) Not saying the benchmarks were rigged, but what happened to "we don't believe what companies say"? It seems every "neutral" person is now an Intel Troll.

What happened? Everybody, even some AMD Fanboys, have become Intel Trolls overnight because of 1 day at IDF, wtf? I know there will be hundreds of Intel Fanboy posts saying "MadModMike, you're a stupid *** *** ** ***!" with never-ending insults, and that's fine, because I really don't care what any Intel troll has to say when they can't prove anything besides using TomsBiased.com, AnandsIntel.com, or IDF.

Let the flaming begin...

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

I'm with mike on this one. I can guarentee when Conroe comes out, it won't be as good as everyone thinks. Anyway, what are the prices for Conroe?
March 8, 2006 6:18:50 PM

Quote:
Well, in the past DAY, there have been thousands of Intel Fanboy & Troll posts because of an Intel setup benchmark using these "Modified ATI Drivers" and an AMD DFI ATI Board that is known for bad performance, not sure why even all the neutral parties have become the hugest Intel Trolls lately, but it's pretty disgusting. I'll admit, I can be a flaming retarded fanboy alot of the time, but I bring extensive knowledge to the table and try not to flame for no reason, but there are at least 15 new threads started just because of these Conroe benchmarks, seriously, look at the facts:

1) It took Intel 3 years to Meet/Beat the K8

2) AMD has 2 new architectures/revisions planned for the next 12 months, K8L and K10.

3) Not saying the benchmarks were rigged, but what happened to "we don't believe what companies say"? It seems every "neutral" person is now an Intel Troll.

What happened? Everybody, even some AMD Fanboys, have become Intel Trolls overnight because of 1 day at IDF, wtf? I know there will be hundreds of Intel Fanboy posts saying "MadModMike, you're a stupid *** *** ** ***!" with never-ending insults, and that's fine, because I really don't care what any Intel troll has to say when they can't prove anything besides using TomsBiased.com, AnandsIntel.com, or IDF.

Let the flaming begin...

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

I'm with mike on this one. I can guarentee when Conroe comes out, it won't be as good as everyone thinks. Anyway, what are the prices for Conroe?

Regardless of how good it is, it still took THREE years to meat/beat the K8, AMD has 2 new revisions/architectures coming in the next 12 months to beat Conroe for good, and still the Intel Trolls are raving and insulting AMD people because of IDF, it's sad.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 6:22:21 PM

I know your probably referring to me as one of the trolls LOL

All I was doing was posting information as it was made available from Toms and Anandtech.

Yes, I like Intel and you can flame me if you want cause I know it's all good man. :wink:

One thing I just want to point out is this, those tests may have been at the IDF but Toms and the like provided us with the information and not Intel. They did this from their perspective.

I don't mind the flame fests as long as everyone is respectful. I know I get outta line too sometimes and I take responsibility for that but, we are the human race and not electronic devices that everyone here is fighting over.

Besides, its good to have opinions from the AMD crowd anyway. There's always two sides to every story. Rock on Mike
March 8, 2006 6:23:50 PM

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I know your probably referring to me as one of the trolls LOL

All I was doing was posting information as it was made available from Toms and Anandtech.

Yes, I like Intel and you can flame me if you want cause I know it's all good man. :wink:

One thing I just want to point out is this, those tests may have been at the IDF but Toms and the like provided us with the information and not Intel. They did this from their perspective.

I don't mind the flame fests as long as everyone is respectful. I know I get outta line too sometimes and I take responsibility for that but, we are the human race and not electronic devices that everyone here is fighting over.

Besides, its good to have opinions from the AMD crowd anyway. There's always two sides to every story. Rock on Mike


Besides the over 15 Intel Trolls currently on THG, about 50 more each hour join to DIS-RESPECTFULLY insult AMD, I call that disgusting.

EDIT: There's about 3 people left on these forums that aren't Intel Trolls now, I think you can figure out who they are.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 6:29:04 PM

I move to make this sticky and have all other Intel/AMD threads moved here. I'm sick of sifting thru all of these threads.
March 8, 2006 6:29:09 PM

Ahem...repeats oneself.

We don't know anything until the 2 platforms can be tested head to head.
March 8, 2006 6:29:30 PM

maybe they just found something they "think" they can really get back at amd... pathetic

i wouldn't really believe these benchmarks, not because they are posted on various sites with decent reputations, but they are set up by "intel".

why doesn't intel just send the chip to media sites, and let them review it? i mean.. that way it would actually convince more people that intel's chip is actually 20% better than before (even though i still think it is total bs)
March 8, 2006 6:30:46 PM

Mike, would you just leave these forums for good?
You have evolved to the most annoying person on this world and you did so faster than anyone else ever.

And why the heck do you have so much time posting crap around here? Arent you in a kindergarden like youre supposed to be?
March 8, 2006 6:31:01 PM

you should all be praising the fact that there is a new line for both AMD and Intel in the coming months!!!

shouldnt you be happy that conroes are replacing the "HOT" P4's?

i dont understand what you are all trying to prove bragging about hardware that you dont even own/hasnt even come out yet!

both companies have new lines COMING out so how can you even provide anything with concrete evidence???

you cant!

i cant beleive i got into this conversation but be happy that both companies have new tech on its way, or did you forget that one thing can only be the best ONCE, and then its gone?

personally im neutral to the competition of AMD and INTEL and will be reaping the benefits of both sides!!! :p 
March 8, 2006 6:31:47 PM

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maybe they just found something they "think" they can really get back at amd... pathetic

i wouldn't really believe these benchmarks, not because they are posted on various sites with decent reputations, but they are set up by "intel".

why doesn't intel just send the chip to media sites, and let them review it? i mean.. that way it would actually convince more people that intel's chip is actually 20% better than before (even though i still think it is total bs)


The Intel Trolls have, after 3 years, got an actual REASON to be blabbing their nonsense, there is an Intel CPU that fully uses the DDR2 bandwidth, that's about all I see Conroe is.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 6:32:42 PM

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Mike, would you just leave these forums for good?
You have evolved to the most annoying person on this world and you did so faster than anyone else ever.

And why the heck do you have so much time posting crap around here? Arent you in a kindergarden like youre supposed to be?


Hey, Intel Troll, why don't you slit your wrists? HAHA @ U INTEL TROLL

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 6:33:17 PM

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you should all be praising the fact that there is a new line for both AMD and Intel in the coming months!!!

shouldnt you be happy that conroes are replacing the "HOT" P4's?

i dont understand what you are all trying to prove bragging about hardware that you dont even own/hasnt even come out yet!

both companies have new lines COMING out so how can you even provide anything with concrete evidence???

you cant!

i cant beleive i got into this conversation but be happy that both companies have new tech on its way, or did you forget that one thing can only be the best ONCE, and then its gone?

personally im neutral to the competition of AMD and INTEL and will be reaping the benefits of both sides!!! :p 


You aint neutral, you're an Intel Troll.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 6:34:06 PM

Anand Intel.well i think you're one of the very few AMD fans who thinks that. Anand Tech is the home of insane AMD fanboys and techs. Anand's reviews are in general fair and sometimes even in AMDs favor. Intel may have 'optimised' here and there but there is no need for them to fake results by a large margin. They certainly don't want to lie about this cause that would ruin an already shakening reputation. The AMD procesor in FEAR performs as it should. The Intel one,well provided that the benchmarks are partialy corect performs 30% better.
Conroe is the result of an angry Monopoly holding Chip Designer that wants to beat its smaller competitor. Intel is bigger and has a lot more resources so after they finally taken the AMD paved road(or Intel road in laptops) it was only a matter of time before they'd show results.
Intel has already lost moolah due to AMD,they certainly prefer wasting it on something that would at least be viable in the long term( in technology).

Conroe will beat M2,by what margin i dunno.
AMD has a lot instored for us planed for 2007. But so does Intel. A further shrinking is always welcomed.
Advising people to wait unless they really need a CPU is not proof of Intel fanboyism since if Intel Conroe does its thing it will be a lot wiser to purchase better performance at bargain price.(300 for a 2.4ghz? that's what i call cheap).
So we Intel fans have a very valid reasons to hope and start saving for a chip made by our fav. brand. And of course to start causing brand wars. :)  But what, you've been bashing Intel in almost every single post.
We finally can counter attack and what a counter attack this will be.
March 8, 2006 6:35:15 PM

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Anand Intel.well i think you're one of the very few AMD fans who thinks that. Anand Tech is the home of insane AMD fanboys and techs. Anand's reviews are in general fair and sometimes even in AMDs favor. Intel may have 'optimised' here and there but there is no need for them to fake results by a large margin. They certainly don't want to lie about this cause that would ruin an already shakening reputation. The AMD procesor in FEAR performs as it should. The Intel one,well provided that the benchmarks are partialy corect performs 30% better.
Conroe is the result of an angry Monopoly holding Chip Designer that wants to beat its smaller competitor. Intel is bigger and has a lot more resources so after they finally taken the AMD paved road(or Intel road in laptops) it was only a matter of time before they'd show results.
Intel has already lost moolah due to AMD,they certainly prefer wasting it on something that would at least be viable in the long term( in technology).

Conroe will beat M2,by what margin i dunno.
AMD has a lot instored for us planed for 2007. But so does Intel. A further shrinking is always welcomed.
Advising people to wait unless they really need a CPU is not proof of Intel fanboyism since if Intel Conroe does its thing it will be a lot wiser to purchase better performance at bargain price.(300 for a 2.4ghz? that's what i call cheap).
So we Intel fans have a very valid reasons to hope and start saving for a chip made by our fav. brand. And of course to start causing brand wars. :)  But what, you've been bashing Intel in almost every single post.
We finally can counter attack and what a counter attack this will be.


Perfect Ignorant Intel Troll post, thanks for adding it.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 6:37:11 PM

so am i a troll because i use one?

or are you calling me that cus your so against intel?

and did i even say anything to you or call you names?

i think i just replyd to your post but anyways, way to be cool.
March 8, 2006 6:38:47 PM

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so am i a troll because i use one?

or are you calling me that cus your so against intel?

and did i even say anything to you or call you names?

i think i just replyd to your post but anyways, way to be cool.


You're a Troll because you believe hype and are just as Ignorant as the other trolls.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 6:42:10 PM

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Mike, would you just leave these forums for good?
You have evolved to the most annoying person on this world and you did so faster than anyone else ever.

And why the heck do you have so much time posting crap around here? Arent you in a kindergarden like youre supposed to be?


That's funny because in one of the other threads an Intel Fanboy was accusing Mike of hiding from the news. Now he shows up to defend his position and you raz him for giving his opinion. If you don't like his opinion, there is always the "ignore" button.

For the record: I would consider myself an AMD "fan", but not a "fanboy". I am actually excited because I am usually about one or two generations behind the current technology, so if they are going to start selling FX-60's on eBay.com for $250.00, I am all about that. :D 

Regards,
March 8, 2006 6:42:15 PM

Quote:
Well, in the past DAY, there have been thousands of Intel Fanboy & Troll posts because of an Intel setup benchmark using these "Modified ATI Drivers" and an AMD DFI ATI Board that is known for bad performance, not sure why even all the neutral parties have become the hugest Intel Trolls lately, but it's pretty disgusting. I'll admit, I can be a flaming retarded fanboy alot of the time, but I bring extensive knowledge to the table and try not to flame for no reason, but there are at least 15 new threads started just because of these Conroe benchmarks, seriously, look at the facts:

1) It took Intel 3 years to Meet/Beat the K8

2) AMD has 2 new architectures/revisions planned for the next 12 months, K8L and K10.

3) Not saying the benchmarks were rigged, but what happened to "we don't believe what companies say"? It seems every "neutral" person is now an Intel Troll.

What happened? Everybody, even some AMD Fanboys, have become Intel Trolls overnight because of 1 day at IDF, wtf? I know there will be hundreds of Intel Fanboy posts saying "MadModMike, you're a stupid *** *** ** ***!" with never-ending insults, and that's fine, because I really don't care what any Intel troll has to say when they can't prove anything besides using TomsBiased.com, AnandsIntel.com, or IDF.

Let the flaming begin...

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time





I agree totally. I have an X2 4400+ and used to have a PIII 1GHz as a music computer. I'm not really biased but AMD has been beating the crap out of Intel for a few years so the peopel who wanted root for Intel couldn't. Now that there's a little ligh tat the end of the "short" tunnel, they are out in force. I say shorttunnel becuase as you said K8L is coming soon (maybe Q3) and with DDR2 800 and the "supposedly" faster HT, AMD will make it a great summer for competition. (Now that they have some)


I hope Intel does make it interesting, but hey either way I get my FX60 sooner rather than later.
March 8, 2006 6:43:12 PM

so lemme try to get this straight one more time.

Arguing which company is superior shows your intelectual superiority?

wow. 8O

and its obvious that your jsut looking to argue so im done here. ima go back to actually helping peeps with their hardware. im out!
March 8, 2006 6:44:42 PM

Well why did you post this topic anyway then? You can't change people's minds. The tests show an awesome Intel chip beating AMD. People aren't becoming Intel fanboys,they are chosing to wait for a nalmost certain better product. AT is a fair site and everyone knows that Anand loves AMD.
Anyway,i know i am wasting my time. You're too AMD biased to admit for once Intel apparently upper hand PERIOD.
March 8, 2006 6:48:44 PM

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Anand Intel.well i think you're one of the very few AMD fans who thinks that. Anand Tech is the home of insane AMD fanboys and techs. Anand's reviews are in general fair and sometimes even in AMDs favor. Intel may have 'optimised' here and there but there is no need for them to fake results by a large margin. They certainly don't want to lie about this cause that would ruin an already shakening reputation. The AMD procesor in FEAR performs as it should. The Intel one,well provided that the benchmarks are partialy corect performs 30% better.
Conroe is the result of an angry Monopoly holding Chip Designer that wants to beat its smaller competitor. Intel is bigger and has a lot more resources so after they finally taken the AMD paved road(or Intel road in laptops) it was only a matter of time before they'd show results.
Intel has already lost moolah due to AMD,they certainly prefer wasting it on something that would at least be viable in the long term( in technology).

Conroe will beat M2,by what margin i dunno.
AMD has a lot instored for us planed for 2007. But so does Intel. A further shrinking is always welcomed.
Advising people to wait unless they really need a CPU is not proof of Intel fanboyism since if Intel Conroe does its thing it will be a lot wiser to purchase better performance at bargain price.(300 for a 2.4ghz? that's what i call cheap).
So we Intel fans have a very valid reasons to hope and start saving for a chip made by our fav. brand. And of course to start causing brand wars. :)  But what, you've been bashing Intel in almost every single post.
We finally can counter attack and what a counter attack this will be.


oh.. so that's what YOU think intel would just posting a geniune benchmark after they've posted thousands of bs reports just because they don't have to do it?

get back on your feet dude.. intel was leading amd by what... a large margin before PIII? and they still bs as if they think we are all dumb peoples.

or maybe some of us are.... like those who are running around and say "i want to wear bikinis to amd's funeral"

its still way too early for doing that. unless these 3rd party neutral sites can post a benchmark set up BY THEMSELVES, and actually showed more than 40% increase in performance, i really wouldn't say what intel got now is far superior.

lolz.. all those hypes are just pre - orgasms for a mass orgy by intel fanboyz XD
March 8, 2006 6:49:28 PM

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Well why did you post this topic anyway then? You can't change people's minds. The tests show an awesome Intel chip beating AMD. People aren't becoming Intel fanboys,they are chosing to wait for a nalmost certain better product. AT is a fair site and everyone knows that Anand loves AMD.
Anyway,i know i am wasting my time. You're too AMD biased to admit for once Intel apparently upper hand PERIOD.


Jesus Christ, you Intel Trolls are flying into this thread throwin' Ignorance around like it's a hot potato. I swear, this is the perfect advertisement, just bait the Trolls and you got yourself millions of 'em, sure would be awesome if I was selling sh!t, haha.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 6:55:37 PM

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so lemme try to get this straight one more time.

Arguing which company is superior shows your intelectual superiority?

wow. 8O

and its obvious that your jsut looking to argue so im done here. ima go back to actually helping peeps with their hardware. im out!


ooo.... i was wondering.. who actually started the thread, "i want to wear bikinis to amd's funerals"?

i wondered who was the one trying to defy all neutral benchmarks, saying that FX60 is inferior than 955EE?

i wondered who was the one yelling 1,128 USD is wayyyy cheaper than 1,035 USD?

so THESE are what mature and intellectual superiority for intel fanboyz huh...
March 8, 2006 7:12:04 PM

Lolzerz Intel isn't the one posting this benchmark,Anand is. Intel just come up with the sistems and bench. programs. One of them was a usual benchmark that neutral sites use.
The FX sistem performs as it should in that particular test so it's clear they did not change it to affect performance.
Time will tell if the benchies on the Conroe chip are valid or not but there is no reason to believe they are not. Intel has no reason to lie now,they have a lead to retake.
March 8, 2006 7:12:46 PM

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AMD has 2 new architectures/revisions planned for the next 12 months, K8L and K10.

I don't think that's correct. Last I heard K10 in it's previous (whatever it was) incarnation was either delayed or dead. That was the entire reason why K8L was introduced. K8L will be released in 2007, which is when K10 was originally planned to be released. K10 itself probably won't show up until 2008 at the earliest. Besides, it wouldn't make sense for AMD to be releasing two new architectures in the next 12 months, especially with the DDR2 transition itself being a platform revision.

In regards to it taking Intel 3 years to meet/beat the K8, no offense, but that sounds kind of like an excuse to skirt the issue. In any case, I agree with you that the some of the pro-Intel threads are pointless. I'm sure you'd agree that I generally support Intel, but if I feel the need to pat myself on the back there's really no need to make a huge show of it. That's why I didn't bother posting in "Intel regains crown". It's like a circus in there with no useful information.

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3) Not saying the benchmarks were rigged, but what happened to "we don't believe what companies say"? It seems every "neutral" person is now an Intel Troll.

It's very hard to know who to believe. When THG released independant benchmarks on AM2 everyone was up in arms about the biasness and rigged nature of them despite the fact that AMD had to give them specific permission to avoid being sued under a non-disclosure agreement.
March 8, 2006 7:13:39 PM

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Lolzerz Intel isn't the one posting this benchmark,Anand is. Intel just come up with the sistems and bench. programs. One of them was a usual benchmark that neutral sites use.
The FX sistem performs as it should in that particular test so it's clear they did not change it to affect performance.
Time will tell if the benchies on the Conroe chip are valid or not but there is no reason to believe they are not. Intel has no reason to lie now,they have a lead to retake.


Anand posting Intel-made benchmarks and you're defending them....you sir, are a freakin' dumbass Troll.

An FX system is supposed to say "Unkown CPU" in the POST? Uh huh...okay Troll, keep geting your wet dreams.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 7:14:15 PM

Say... hmmm.. did they use AS5 on that conroe? hmmmmm... wonder how much cooler it would have performed... oh well.. guess we gotta wait...

:oops:  . o O (pout)
March 8, 2006 7:15:57 PM

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AMD has 2 new architectures/revisions planned for the next 12 months, K8L and K10.

I don't think that's correct. Last I heard K10 in it's previous (whatever it was) incarnation was either delayed or dead. That was the entire reason why K8L was introduced. K8L will be released in 2007, which is when K10 was originally planned to be released. K10 itself probably won't show up until 2008 at the earliest. Besides, it wouldn't make sense for AMD to be releasing two new architectures in the next 12 months, especially with the DDR2 transition itself being a platform revision.

In regards to it taking Intel 3 years to meet/beat the K8, no offense, but that sounds kind of like an excuse to skirt the issue. In any case, I agree with you that the some of the pro-Intel threads are pointless. I'm sure you'd agree that I generally support Intel, but if I feel the need to pat myself on the back there's really no need to make a huge show of it. That's why I didn't bother posting in "Intel regains crown". It's like a circus in there with no useful information.

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3) Not saying the benchmarks were rigged, but what happened to "we don't believe what companies say"? It seems every "neutral" person is now an Intel Troll.

It's very hard to know who to believe. When THG released independant benchmarks on AM2 everyone was up in arms about the biasness and rigged nature of them despite the fact that AMD had to give them specific permission to avoid being sued under a non-disclosure agreement.

Uhm...The Inquirer is the only place to say K10 is dead, and since you and the Inquirer are having anal sex, of course you'd believe them. BTW: Thanks for showing your true Intel-Troll self, and don't bother responding with mounds of techno-garbal crap from The Inquirer or that you made up, I think the other 10,000 Intel Troll posts will do, thanks anyways bud.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 8, 2006 7:17:28 PM

why can't you wait til those processors are ON MARKET, SELLING, BEING EXCHANGED FOR MONEY, BEING SOLD, TRADED FOR OTHER GOODS, when THAT happens, go, buy them and make all the benchmarking that you like, seriously, I don't believe a lot in 3rd party benchmarking, but if everybody with this new pros benched it and posted their results here it would be more interesting than trying to swallow some test results that were not made with your presence (even if they're biased or not)

It's true that Intel had a long way to catch up with AMD and it's true that AMD will launch a new architecture....but you wont know who's tha man til you have them ( "it's a race, a race of rats, a race of rats to die" -Placebo )

My final statement is: I really don't care who has the best processor, I WANT a processor war so we can have better products and (possibly) cheaper

Hell, these were'nt 2 cents, it's a whole buck xDxD


BTW: hey mike, chill out man!xD
March 8, 2006 7:27:00 PM

But the same FX / X2 both at 2.8GHZ, performance wise they are equall.
132FPS in Fear is about what AMD FX 57 got on the same setup(probably with other mobo). And FEAR is not multithreaded.
And why are you against the Intel hype? It's just natural that people like better products(this has passed the "on papper" stage). Conroe is shaping up nicely for now.
Benchmarks at its release will decide,but there is no need to get nervous about it.
March 8, 2006 8:04:58 PM

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That's why I didn't bother posting in "Intel regains crown". It's like a circus in there with no useful information.


Hey, thanks man! I appreciate that and I'll take that as an insult.

I see how you are now ...
March 8, 2006 8:16:21 PM

Hey someone should put mike on a suicide watch. He sounds a little upset.......It's ok man I hear that the new tampon x2 will be twice as good as the old tampon.
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March 8, 2006 8:26:21 PM

Heh fun!

I said my point on this in another thread...

I'll just say that last I heard, AM2 is being release a full month before ICM, and at this point, AMD will start releasing information on their next gen stuff. If at this point you come jumping and trolling for AMD, I'll have a good laugh.

Anyhow, I did'nt see nobody mentionning it, I cant wait to see if AMD can put up a PR show like this too keep people from buying Intels ICM...Cause right now, fanboy aside, I dont see many people jumping the AM2 bandwagon because in the end you will need a whoel new platform wich should be as pricey as a conroe upgrade(even more if comming from a intel DDR2 platform)

Another point do you think AMD will propose another Dual Core duel when conroe is out? :?
March 8, 2006 8:51:35 PM

I have been watching this thing all day, and man I have to say that the amount of ignorance thrown around in this thread is hilarious.

I have an idea (not to make anyone think ideas or opinions mean anything in this thread), how about all the fanboys get some bc bud and just mellow out for a while. I think we could all go for some of that.
March 8, 2006 9:04:27 PM

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The Inquirer is the only place to say K10 is dead

Like I said, I only thought that K10 was delayed because that was the last I read. If you could point out a link that saids K8L and K10 will both be out this time next year I'd love to read it.

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don't bother responding with mounds of techno-garbal crap

Hmm, it's funny you mentioned that. I actually pointed out several months ago that the way Dothan and Yonah currently process SSE instructions especially SSE2 which is done at half speed was a severe limitation and something Intel needed to address to improve the architecture. Interestingly, 1 cycle SSE performance across all types was a specific new feature that Intel has introduced with Merom and family. Of course, like you've already said that's just "techno-garbal".
March 8, 2006 9:15:50 PM

Maybe I spoke too soon. The times I've checked that thread were to look at your links, which were good. The next time I went I saw someone telling AMD fans to never show their ugly faces again or something to that extent I assumed the thread had degenerated into a shouting match. I didn't really want to read the 9 pages so I may have wrongly characterized.
March 9, 2006 2:56:00 PM

Yeah, I wasn't sure where you wanted to go with that statement. I started that thread with good intentions of just sharing good information and well, you saw where it went.

I was sort of expecting it anyway.
March 9, 2006 3:09:25 PM

mike i think your right maybe its our destiny to fight intel fanboys
March 9, 2006 3:10:29 PM

You know what I hate? Low-fat Mayonnaise. OK, those corporate bastards can exploit weight-conscious people all they want, as long as they STAY THE F*CK AWAY from my Mayo.
March 9, 2006 3:13:21 PM

8O you like your man-mayo thick and creamy?
March 9, 2006 3:17:02 PM

Confusius Say:
Man who pleasure self in cash register, come onto money.
March 9, 2006 3:18:37 PM

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Hey someone should put mike on a suicide watch. He sounds a little upset.......


inability to control ones emotions has a single word that encompasses it, :lol:  :lol:  out of decency i wont use that word on MadModMike , but that is pretty much what he is. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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