WHY INTEL DOESN'T INCLUDE A MEMORY CONTROLLER IN IT'S CHIPS?

[9-inch]

Memory controllers add space to the size of the chips. In turn, this cuts down the number you can make

Paul Otellini has to be a real dumb @ss to say something like that. AMD's memory controller only takes 5% of die space, while Intel's approach of larger caches takes 50% of the chip die area.

Once again, Intel's way to hide their flaw.

http://news.com.com/2061-10791_3-6047412.html?part=rss&tag=6047412&subj=news

 

[Action_Man]

WHY DOES EVERYONE HAS TO TYPE IN CAPS FOR!!!!!????1111

Intel is working on it, moron. Also AMD's caches take up alot of real estate too, moron.

 

[MadModMike]

WHY DOES EVERYONE HAS TO TYPE IN CAPS FOR!!!!!????1111

Intel is working on it, moron. Also AMD's caches take up alot of real estate too, moron.

Shut up fanboy, here's your rigged conroe: http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[luminaris]

Yep, so true. I'm not gonna disagree with you on that. There is simply no better design than AMDs.

The drawback with this is, it doesn't leave much room for AMD to improve their current design much though.

 

[MadModMike]

Yep, so true. I'm not gonna disagree with you on that. There is simply no better design than AMDs.

The drawback with this is, it doesn't leave much room for AMD to improve their current design much though.

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[ltcommander_data]

You're right, chip die area isn't a very good reason. However, it is important to look at the whole concept of what he is saying which is included in the lines that followed which you didn't include.

Instead, Intel makes its memory controllers on the next-to-best technology generation, where silicon real estate goes for less of a premium.

The current northbridges are made on the 130nm process which hasn't been used in processors since Banias. By using a older process, Intel maximizes it's production facilities while keeping costs at a minimum. I'm probably being repetitive, but Intel's next step is to double transition from 130nm to 90nm and 200mm wafers to 300mm wafers which should easily cut their production costs by more than half while reducing power consumption and giving them more space for additional features.

A lot of it is probably superstition. Intel tried it with Timna and it screwed up royally. Now AMD is constantly flaunting their OMC. The OMC just seems like bad luck for Intel.

 

[k2000k]

Mad Mode! How was the aformentioned post fanboy? And secondly, do you think you sound smart?

 

[MadModMike]

Mad Mode! How was the aformentioned post fanboy? And secondly, do you think you sound smart?

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html - That proves Intel was lying, sorry Fanboys.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[MadModMike]

You're right, chip die area isn't a very good reason. However, it is important to look at the whole concept of what he is saying which is included in the lines that followed which you didn't include.

Instead, Intel makes its memory controllers on the next-to-best technology generation, where silicon real estate goes for less of a premium.

The current northbridges are made on the 130nm process which hasn't been used in processors since Banias. By using a older process, Intel maximizes it's production facilities while keeping costs at a minimum. I'm probably being repetitive, but Intel's next step is to double transition from 130nm to 90nm and 200mm wafers to 300mm wafers which should easily cut their production costs by more than half while reducing power consumption and giving them more space for additional features.

A lot of it is probably superstition. Intel tried it with Timna and it screwed up royally. Now AMD is constantly flaunting their OMC. The OMC just seems like bad luck for Intel.

Oh shut up and look at this fanboy: http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[rettihSlluB]

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[k2000k]

Where is the fanboy post mad mod? And do you think you sound smart?

 

[Action_Man]

I read it dipsh!t, its weak at best.

 

[Action_Man]

Great post, p!ss off fanboy.

 

[MadModMike]

Great post, p!ss off fanboy.

LOL YOU FANBOYS ARE ALL CRYING NOW THAT YOUR CONROE WAS EXPOSED AND I WAS RIGHT!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[Action_Man]

I'll have a T for troll and a W for wrong.

5 steps of grief:

1. shock
2. denial <-- you are here
3. depression
4. anger
5. acceptance

 

[MadModMike]

I'll have a T for troll and a W for wrong.

5 steps of grief:

1. shock
2. denial <-- you are here
3. depression
4. anger
5. acceptance

1. FANBOY WHO WAS PROVED WRONG <== YOU'RE THERE!

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[Action_Man]

Sure troll, scurry back to under your bridge.

 

[Heyyou27]

Please stop this; we understand you don't like Intel.

 

[MadModMike]

Please stop this; we understand you don't like Intel.

And this is why:

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[Action_Man]

Because you're a troll? Thought so.

 

[xXDracoXx]

I beleive you're against bias, mike, because that article really rats out intel's setup-mistakes. However, it's also a big bias to stick to one article that makes things look greener on your side, no pun intended (yeah, that sucked, green=AMD...).

Notice this isn't an offensive post and I don't believe that an agressive reply would be appropriate, although I have to admit it's expected.

 

[MadModMike]

I beleive you're against bias, mike, because that article really rats out intel's setup-mistakes. However, it's also a big bias to stick to one article that makes things look greener on your side, no pun intended (yeah, that sucked, green=AMD...).

Notice this isn't an offensive post and I don't believe that an agressive reply would be appropriate, although I have to admit it's expected.

I didn't mean to be aggressive, but for the past 6 hours, I've been flamed for sticking to AMD, now I have proof, I think that warrants a few minutes of bragging.

http://voodoopc.blogspot.com/2006/03/if-only-they-had-time-machine.html

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[xXDracoXx]

I agree. I see all the flaming you get and think it's really dumb. It may be tough, but ignore the intel fanboys(this isn't meant to be agressive towards them <.<, notice I have an old P4...) and just reply to the clean arguers. Replying with an insult to an insult accompanied with that article link only makes them want to flame back until they've got the last word.

 

[MadModMike]

I agree. I see all the flaming you get and think it's really dumb. It may be tough, but ignore the intel fanboys(this isn't meant to be agressive towards them <.<, notice I have an old P4...) and just reply to the clean arguers. Replying with an insult to an insult accompanied with that article link only makes them want to flame back until they've got the last word.

True, there do seem to be a few educated non-insulting people I am chatting with now about this, it's nice to know not everybody hated me because I wasn't joining Team Intel.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[Action_Man]

People hate you because you're a troll, you keep posting that weakass article and you're just plain sh!tty. You also seem to be against competition for some strange reason, probably because you're a troll or an idiot or both.