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Apple Patent Hints to Future Motion Charger

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September 30, 2012 1:08:11 PM

Oh the patents...
September 30, 2012 1:08:32 PM

I don't know if that's innovative, or trolling, given Apple's history.
Anonymous
September 30, 2012 1:10:07 PM

I've always wanted a feature like this for my phones...
But Apple patenting it means I'll never get it for my phones. :/ 
September 30, 2012 1:14:06 PM

"Charging mobile devices simply by heat or the motion of our body has been an idea.....

IBM has been predicting such a technology.....

The patent application, filed in June of this year, could conceivably hint to a power supply"

etc,etc --> does anyone else think that innovation should only be rewarded when an actual prototype has been built and proven to be , erm, actually 'innovative'

--> i.e. does this type of activity (early (theoretical) patent with no prototype) block all future competitive activity in the (legal) area surrounding the patent. Is this really a good thing for open innovation? Do we need to change the way patent applications work?



September 30, 2012 1:17:44 PM

can any honest lawyer pipe in with their opinion - please use 'human advancement & innovation' in the fore.
September 30, 2012 2:30:06 PM

didnt these kind of technology exist on watch already?
Anonymous
September 30, 2012 2:56:50 PM

To charge your phone you have to move... maybe this kind of technology will help combat obesity. There will ofcourse be extra resistance created from the induction even if just unnoticably small.
September 30, 2012 3:14:01 PM

hydac7Can somebody make a phone these days which will just work and not suck ? :|

Nope and you can thank apple and the patent office.
September 30, 2012 3:23:29 PM

I predict another patent war in the near future
Anonymous
September 30, 2012 3:34:43 PM

They didn't patent an actual implementation, they just pre-emptively patented an unworkable idea so that they can troll Samsung wheneve Samsung actually figure it out.

However, there is no way to generate any usable amount of electricity from body heat or motion. There is no viable function to generate electricity from the ever-so-slightly-higher than ambient human body temperature, and any electricity generated from motion is going to be relative to the (tiny) mass of the generator assembly of the charging device. It would be more efficient to make the back of the phone a solar cell(a la ye olden solar calculators from the 90s) than to use motion or body heat, and any freshman engineering major knows that.
September 30, 2012 4:07:04 PM

oh no
Nokia 920, prepared to pay $110 billion dollars
September 30, 2012 4:26:29 PM

"we surely hope that this patent will end up in technology we will be able to buy soon"

No "we" don't. You seem to have us confused with low intelligence people. It's Apple crap. Apple is evil and we'd rather not hear about it ever.
September 30, 2012 5:51:34 PM

To Apple :3

Please, patent your stuff once you have diagrams and blueprints for it. When everyone can actually see that you have legitimately engineered a new device, a patend should be granted to you. Please, again, stop trying to patent IDEAS.

Thanks
-The Average Tech-Informed Guy

With copy to: The US patent department.
September 30, 2012 6:33:19 PM

Something tells me the #1 patent holder and filer IBM patented this idea 20 years ago. Good luck Apple. Especially if IBM has already been experimenting with it.
September 30, 2012 6:50:47 PM

Apple: we can patent even ancient inventions, long live USPO!
September 30, 2012 7:29:52 PM

hydac7Can somebody make a phone these days which will just work and not suck ? :|


The iphone is literally just that
September 30, 2012 7:48:13 PM

azraaTo Apple :3Please, patent your stuff once you have diagrams and blueprints for it. When everyone can actually see that you have legitimately engineered a new device, a patend should be granted to you. Please, again, stop trying to patent IDEAS.Thanks-The Average Tech-Informed GuyWith copy to: The US patent department.


To politicians:

Please reform the US Patent Office, and give it extra funding so it has more staff to handle the patent application overload.


Probability of them caring: 1%
Probability of them cutting each others' throats over abortions, gay rights and etc: 99%
September 30, 2012 9:25:56 PM

Apple attempting to patent coils printed on PCBs or equivalent... some RFID chips have already been there several years ago. Companies should be able to preemptively sue the PTOs for granting frivolous patents with abundant and "ancient" prior-art.
October 1, 2012 1:56:35 AM

Aww, the Apple haters are flocking to another article about Apple and patents, trying to justify their hate for just one company and one brand of phone with all sorts of excuses, like only Apple should have to have blueprints and prototypes, while the rest of the industry gets to continue patenting the way it is now.

Changing the way patents are granted is a noble goal, but it will take a gargantuan effort. Attacking Apple for using the systems like its competition does is just silly.

Apple has brought the entire industry to the state it's in today, had they not done so the lack of innovation would have us with phones barely beyond the N95 today. They bring the industry forward, they are at the heart of innovation, and even if your non-Apple preferred brand has to *steal* from Apple to keep up, you'll benefit as well. Just as long as they get caught red handed in court.
October 1, 2012 3:49:13 AM

test
October 1, 2012 3:50:12 AM


This is nothing new. Ever heard of the automatic watch?

Sorry about previous msg 'test'.
October 1, 2012 4:39:59 AM

Pretty sure I have seen this already, unless Apple has figured out something new to it, it is not viable.
October 1, 2012 5:14:33 AM

The watch version of this was pioneered by Seiko (Kinetic) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_quartz
I can't for the life of me see how this could generate enough electricity to juice current mega power hungry smartphones. Even a simple mp3 player (e.g. iPod Nano) would draw a LOT more power than this type of technology could produce. Maybe Apple has something new to bring to the table, but this smells like vapor to me.
October 1, 2012 7:56:09 AM

My watch has has a motion charger in it for some time.
And printing coils on PCB's is nothing new. How can Apple patent this crap.
October 1, 2012 8:03:07 AM

I forgot to mention if this does pass. It will be like those LED flashlight's. We will have a bunch of Apple fags walking down the street shaking there iPhone's like there jerking off.
October 1, 2012 9:01:36 AM

Quote:
Apple has attracted some attention by actually applying for a patent covering a power supply via electromagnetic induction

Surely that is wireless charging, and it's already been done, Nokia has it for the new WP8 Lumias - hell even my toothbrush has it - NO PATENT ALLOWED FOR APPLE
October 1, 2012 9:13:42 AM

Tomfreakdidnt these kind of technology exist on watch already?


Self winding watches use your body movement to wind a spring. Not sure that I've ever seen a spring powered phone before.
October 1, 2012 9:33:20 AM

Welcome to the matrix, APPLE HAS YOU NEO.
October 1, 2012 11:05:13 AM

engiqueeringThey didn't patent an actual implementation, they just pre-emptively patented an unworkable idea so that they can troll Samsung wheneve Samsung actually figure it out.However, there is no way to generate any usable amount of electricity from body heat or motion. There is no viable function to generate electricity from the ever-so-slightly-higher than ambient human body temperature, and any electricity generated from motion is going to be relative to the (tiny) mass of the generator assembly of the charging device. It would be more efficient to make the back of the phone a solar cell(a la ye olden solar calculators from the 90s) than to use motion or body heat, and any freshman engineering major knows that.

There is google 'Seiko Termal' they have made a watch taht works on body heat...
October 1, 2012 6:15:25 PM

craig_1000Sorry 'Seiko Thermic' , http://www.roachman.com/thermic/


Very cool watch. Brings out my inner geek. But it isn't the same as what is proposed in this patent application.
October 1, 2012 7:06:04 PM

Should we take the red or blue pill now?
October 1, 2012 10:45:05 PM

scannallSelf winding watches use your body movement to wind a spring. Not sure that I've ever seen a spring powered phone before.
Tomfreakdidnt these kind of technology exist on watch already?


Seiko had their kinetic that charged a battery/cap in the early 90s, possibly late 80s. I got mine as a graduation present in the 90s and I still have it today, it's a great watch. It was a weight that spun a gear that turned a generator, no spring involved. Citizen did their eco-drive in the mid 90s that was also a battery charged by movement coupled with a solar cell.
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