My Set-up:
P4 630 3.0Ghz
Asus P5GDC Deluxe MB 915 chipset
1 gig stick "Lifetime"? PC4200 533Mhz DDR2
Western Digital 120GB 7200rpm 8MB cache SATA II HDD
Leadtek 6800GS Extreme 256MB PCI-Express
I have the oppertunity to switch out the 1GB stick of DDR2 for a 2 x 512MB kit of Patriot PC3200 400Mhz DDR. First off, I can run the DDR kit in dual-channel. Secondly, the timings on the DDR2 is 4-4-4-12, while the DDR is 2.5-3-3-7. Will I get a performance boost from switching the RAM or am I better off keeping my set-up? I've read some reviews that say that unless you get DDR2 with low timings, DDR is actually faster. Anyone had any experience with both set-ups?
Did you look at his board before saying that? 915 chipset supported both DDR and DDR2. Yes, I said both. Some boards had two sets of slots, others didn't.
I thought that by going with the DDR I'd be able to go dual-channel and increase my bandwidth that way. Also the timings on the DDR are better even though it is a little slower. My board definently supports both DDR and DDR2 so what do ya think?
DDR2 is good to go my man. AMD is already coming up with it maybe late this year or early next year. AMD with DDR2? That's a good performance increase!!!
All right so I got my hands on the DDR and installed it. Here's the results, but to be fair the DDR2 is a 1GB stick while the DDR is ran dual-channel.
DDR2 vs. DDR
mem read=3971 MB/s / mem read=5601 MB/s
mem write=1620 MB/s / mem write=1906 MB/s
mem latency=100.9 ns / mem latency=98.6 ns
bandwidth=4267 MB/s / bandwidth=6400 MB/s
3DMark 05=5705 / 3DMark05=5724
Not a big upgrade, but in this scenario(being free) it did give a boost. My sytem has always been very responsive so it's difficult to tell. I haven't had time to try any intense gaming to see if my fps are any higher. When I go 2GB I will probably shell out the extra dough for the DDR2.
Crashman:
your example is based on Foxconn NF4SLI7AA-8EKRS2,that's an intel system mb,i emphasized that DDR400 is better in AMD system ,so the intel cpu can not boost it greatest performance ! i mean ,there are two system ,one is AMD CPU with DDR400 ,an other is intel's CPU with DDR2 533, you test again! DDR400 will beat 533!because DDR2 533 with higher-Latency
As you can see from my earlier post, the lower latency DDR 400 ran in dual-channel out performed my single DDR2 533 in every aspect on Intel P4(specs in first post). Obviously, if you spent $300 on performance DDR2 667 with latencies of 3 or better, I would hope it would win. However, in my scenario whatever speed advantage the DDR2 533 had was completely overshadowed by the lower latencies and increased bandwidth of the DDR in dual-channel. Last night I played a bunch of games to test out the new RAM. With the DDR2 when I played F.E.A.R. with the settings maxed I would occasionally get a slight lag when entering a new room with lots of action. I played a number a levels with the DDR 400 last night and tried to make it lag, but I couldn't. Also when I would exit the game with the DDR2 my system would be slow for about 30 seconds, that is also gone with the DDR! All other games (BF2, COD2, Farcry, Doom 3) played pretty much the same. I'm not saying DDR2 sucks(I still have a stick in reserve), but I don't think that there is much advantage(if any) with DDR2 533. When I upgrade to 2GB I will probably go with DDR2 667 and try to overclock the latencies.
Lag is real time, latency is measured in cycles. The real time latency equivalent to DDR400 at 2-2-2 is DDR2-600 at 3-3-3 and DDR2-800 at 4-4-4. So DDR2-533 at 3-2-2 is quicker, and so is DDR2-667 at 3-3-3.
That must account for why I got less than a 2% decrease in latency time. It is interesting thou that I such large gains in other areas. 29% in memory read, 15% in memory write, and 33% in bandwidth! Maybe my DDR2 stick just sucks? There is no doubt I am seeing a performance increase when playing F.E.A.R. When I upgrade my board I'll probably have to go with DDR2 but having the option of both makes for a nice way to test different RAM in the exact same setup. I think it proves that the increase in speed from 400Mhz to 533 isn't enough to overcome the increased bandwidth due to running DDR in dual-channel.
LMAO, comparing DDR2 in single-channel mode to DDR in dual-channel mode. Hey, it's a good thing for free stuff, or you'd be spending a bunch more money to get a matching stick of DDR2!
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