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Blizzard Launching Public Test Realm for Diablo 3

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September 21, 2012 11:22:44 PM

A little late... isn't the testing supposed to happen BEFORE you launch the game? But I forgot... these days companies charge consumers 60 bucks a game just so they can test it for them AFTER its released =(
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September 21, 2012 11:32:11 PM

The game by itself is a BETA - more change that make you feel the game it's still half BAKED. Who want a BETA PREVIEW access seriously!... All this turn in a non-sense. Seriouslyl Blizzard ?!?
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September 21, 2012 11:47:09 PM

I dont have D3... do i need to buy anything for this? oh nvmd then...
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September 21, 2012 11:48:38 PM

Yeah, no matter how awesome they make it, coming back to that game and trying to find upgrades is going to cost you an arm and a leg because of the depreciation of Gold due to Botters. Now go ahead and add new content only those sick enough to level paragon up to 100 can enjoy and get even more rich selling whatever drops there.
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September 21, 2012 11:58:38 PM

people has been enjoying Torchlight 2, why would they want to waste their time on a RMAH focus fail game?
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September 22, 2012 12:04:17 AM

SchnitterYeah, no matter how awesome they make it, coming back to that game and trying to find upgrades is going to cost you an arm and a leg because of the depreciation of Gold due to Botters. Now go ahead and add new content only those sick enough to level paragon up to 100 can enjoy and get even more rich selling whatever drops there.


I disagree....granted, i'm only halfway through Hell difficulty with a Barbarian (lvl 54 currently), but I havent had to once use the RMAH because I couldnt afford a crucial upgrade. The "regular" auction house has so far never failed to fulfill my character's needs. I'm not exactly the most skilled of gamers either, so its not like I can get away with cheapo equipment on ability alone.
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September 22, 2012 12:25:54 AM

Only the most powerful nephalem can unlock the secrets?
So in other words we all have to keep grinding out to we hit paragon lvl 100, By which time we have conquered the game 1000 times over and already have the best gear and have no reason to unlock any secrets!
Just leave the game Blizzard before you make it any worse, Move on to another title, Shift your developers onto Titan and get it right, Make it into another WoW(before expansions) and you will have another cash cow for a decade.

I will agree with above poster though, There is no need to use real money AH at all I am lvl 60 (24) paragon barbarian and the normal ah is just fine so far. Sure it's now at the point of next gear piece being 100,000,000 but at the same time I just sold an item for 30,000,000 so it's not impossible to achieve with a little effort. I refuse to use real money in this game and cheat my way to the top, I have done so in many other games especially MMO's and it just totally destroys the game once you buy your way to the top there is nothing left to do,Whole fun is getting there no matter how long it takes!
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September 22, 2012 6:35:58 AM

Tomfreakpeople has been enjoying Torchlight 2, why would they want to waste their time on a RMAH focus fail game?

From what I've seen Torchlight 2 is basically D2 v2, not that that's in anyway a bad thing. It seems like much more of a traditional action RPG than D3. The builds are more locked in stone, and there's all the potion/mana spamming you could ever want. It comes down mainly to personal preference I suppose, and if that's what you prefer then by all means go for it and have a blast. But I must admit, after watching several reviews and gameplay videos I'm a bit at a loss as to how Torchlight 2 is waay better than D3, like some people love to boast about.

It's definitely not the loot driven gameplay, as at it's core it looks very similar to the type of highly addictive gameplay in D3/D2. I can't help but think that a lot of the hate and negativity directed at D3 isn't based on the gameplay at all, which is my primary concern when playing an action RPG. It seems to be based much more on word of mouth principle (bandwagoning), regarding D3's required online login, optional RMAH, and lack of modding support. People pledging from the get go to never support such a game, despite the fact that they have a constant internet connection, will probably never use the RMAH, and probably wouldn't have modded the game if given the chance.
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September 22, 2012 8:18:34 AM

@dragonsqrrl

its really hard to explain it. its like explaining why you prefer cs 1.6 over css. but the best i can dexcribe it is it has great flow, the action is way more epic then d3, the speed of the game is awesome, the interface is clear, the game works offline, the character classes are more unique then the average heroes we usualy get. the items are insanely well made. the socketing is worth doing from early on, which adds a new element to the game instead of just saving and combining. legendary items are well... legendary.

the story... i dont know what going on there ,i just love the gameplay. apparently i need to kick some guy in the nuts... but thats about as much as i got, but i dont pay attention to story in general.

d3 is horrible, the only good thing about d3 is the combat animations. the loot is horrible, the farming is horrible, the patches are horrible, the Always online is not always online.... the account theft of people who only play single player. the lag for people who lives in countries that dont like to offer speedy internet. the story is very meh... compared to d2. diablo looked shit in my eyes, but that is just person preference
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September 22, 2012 11:19:29 AM

Blizzard Launching Public Test Realm for Auction House Simulator

the D3 sidegame is receiving the scheduled monthly nerf to push players to regear. Blizz finance is eagerly anticipating the guaranteed nerf-induced surge in RMAH trading and Blizz profiteering. The next scheduled RMAH profit surge is scheduled as content patch 1.0.6. 1.0.6 content consists of nerfing whatever builds become most popular after the 1.0.5 patch goes live. The release for 1.0.6 is scheduled to arrive after players have finished regearing via the RMAH and profits from 1.0.5 induced RMAH'ing have subsided.
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September 22, 2012 2:00:21 PM

Too bad, already got my Guild Wars 2, nope
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September 22, 2012 3:19:52 PM

I have never played this kind of game before (TL ,D1,2 or 3 or PoE) but of all of them, if given a choice, i would like to try PoE (Path of Exile) just based on skill customization. Just my 2 cents. Carry on :) 
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September 22, 2012 5:49:36 PM

I'll get back to you Blizzard when I return from a trip to the Borderlands...

nah who am I kidding... I'll never get back to them.
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September 22, 2012 7:39:07 PM

@dragonsqrrl
Not sure how to explain this to you...It's $20 vs. $60? Make sense now? OK, how about it lasts longer for that $20 and doesn't require draconian DRM? No RMAH (nuff said on that alone)? It's made by ex diablo people hence more like the real thing? :) 
346 user ratings at 9.3 & metacratic score of 90?
Diablo has 6605 user ratings @ 3.8? A lot of users couldn't even use the game, and some without internet that pre-ordered still can't use it? Still not getting it?
Front page review at metacritic:
Armchair empire: "But the dumbed character and inventory systems, coupled to the ridiculous always-on connection and the breathtaking arrogance of the"you'll play how we tell you to play" attitude makes playing this title a damned shame instead of a hell of a good time."=score 45.

If you chuck out the reviews who pass out 100's (6 say it's 100? with all the online BS, servers not working at launch for some etc? seriously?) like their candy on halloween the 88 avg from reviewers comes down dramatically. The Armchair reviewer is stating it accurately. Torchlight listened to customers, whereas Blizzard decided how you should play for you :)  Did I mention it's only $20?...LOL. Did I mention it's only $20...LOL...Did I...Oops My record was skipping... :)  For $60 you get a game you may not be able to play and they virtually killed anyone wanting to mod it. This game won't be played in 12 years like D2 was. That party is over already for D3. I know a lot of people who have played through Torchlight 1 multiple times already. I'm sure they'll do it with T2 also. Did I mention T2 has lan/mod support for $20? Offline anyone? Torchlight 1 is even a close call vs. Diablo3 at $15 and only 450MB at Gog.com. Near infinite re-playability with Random dungeons. Both of these games make Diablo 3 much less impressive at $60 with lots of BS for the privilege of playing it (penalty of playing it?).
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September 22, 2012 8:17:13 PM

somebodyspecialNot sure how to explain this to you...It's $20 vs. $60? Make sense now? OK, how about it lasts longer for that $20 and doesn't require draconian DRM? No RMAH (nuff said on that alone)? It's made by ex diablo people hence more like the real thing? :) 
346 user ratings at 9.3 & metacratic score of 90?
Diablo has 6605 user ratings @ 3.8? A lot of users couldn't even use the game, and some without internet that pre-ordered still can't use it? Still not getting it?
Front page review at metacritic:
Armchair empire: "But the dumbed character and inventory systems, coupled to the ridiculous always-on connection and the breathtaking arrogance of the"you'll play how we tell you to play" attitude makes playing this title a damned shame instead of a hell of a good time."=score 45.

If you chuck out the reviews who pass out 100's (6 say it's 100? with all the online BS, servers not working at launch for some etc? seriously?) like their candy on halloween the 88 avg from reviewers comes down dramatically. The Armchair reviewer is stating it accurately. Torchlight listened to customers, whereas Blizzard decided how you should play for you :)  Did I mention it's only $20?...LOL. Did I mention it's only $20...LOL...Did I...Oops My record was skipping...

Wowoo broo, take it easy. There's no need to rage man. I know you have strong feelings about this, I can feel it, but just try to calm yourself while posting. You're killin the enlightened and mature Tom's-comments-section atmosphere.

... great name by the way, appropriate.
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September 22, 2012 9:44:59 PM

Not seeing the rage... just a pretty thorough summary of why D3 is a huge fail compared to D/D2.

I think it was Lewis Black who had a political bit where a politician takes a huge dump on stage then stands back pointing proudly saying 'what do you think of that... pretty awesome eh?'.

That's pretty much what Blizzard did... but they also added "and if you want to keep looking at that steaming pile... you're going to need to give me your credit card".
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September 22, 2012 10:35:00 PM

ROFL...I only took it because Nobodyspecial was already taken...No raging, did I call you names or swear at you? The usual response when someone gets buried by proof. "whoa man, quit being angry, calm down"...LOL. The sign you've already lost and have nothing to say back? You must have missed the smileys, the LOL's all over etc? I'm not raging because I've proven you wrong. Typical democrat response :) 
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September 22, 2012 10:37:32 PM

What d_kuhn said :) 
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September 23, 2012 1:30:51 AM

somebodyspecialROFL...I only took it because Nobodyspecial was already taken...No raging, did I call you names or swear at you? The usual response when someone gets buried by proof. "whoa man, quit being angry, calm down"...LOL. The sign you've already lost and have nothing to say back? You must have missed the smileys, the LOL's all over etc? I'm not raging because I've proven you wrong. Typical democrat response

:)  Come on now, I didn't mean any offense :)  :) . I just want to have a civil discussion with you, if you're willing to have one with me :) . All I'm saying is it's kinda of difficult to do that when you're all worked up like this :) .
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September 23, 2012 3:14:45 AM

"We thought it'd be cool if, you know, we didn't have to pay bug testers anymore. So now we're letting you do it. You're welcome."
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September 23, 2012 4:30:24 AM

dragonsqrrl said:
:)  Come on now, I didn't mean any offense :)  :) . I just want to have a civil discussion with you, if you're willing to have one with me :) . All I'm saying is it's kinda of difficult to do that when you're all worked up like this :) .


Troll much? :)  If you wanted to have a civil discussion you'd actually discuss the product instead of me. Which is what I did :)  Thanks for the laugh though and wasting my time :lol: 

All I'm saying is, it's kind of difficult to have a discussion with you when you won't discuss anything but me :D  I'm sorry you got all worked up over it. :sol:  Don't worry, I'm not offended at all. Nice try though. ;)  I thought your question was serious, but I now see it wasn't.
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September 23, 2012 5:36:27 AM

somebodyspecialTroll much? If you wanted to have a civil discussion you'd actually discuss the product instead of me. Which is what I did Thanks for the laugh though and wasting my time All I'm saying is, it's kind of difficult to have a discussion with you when you won't discuss anything but me I'm sorry you got all worked up over it. Don't worry, I'm not offended at all. Nice try though. I thought your question was serious, but I now see it wasn't.

I'm afraid you misunderstand me, and I hate to say it but I think you might be a little over sensitive. My question was 100% serious and my previous comments were sincere. I really am ready to carry on a civil discussion about D3 and TL2 if you wish to have one.
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September 23, 2012 3:23:39 PM

nobody gives a flying @#$% about this game any more, it sucks balls.
activision and bobby kotick ruined yet another game.
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September 24, 2012 12:44:49 AM

pay to beta test a 60$ game
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September 24, 2012 9:21:36 AM

I think the mian problem about this "rage" is that players who actually bought the game think, that we who dont like d3 are calling them stupid for buying it.

We are more angry because blizzard is treating everyone like we are stupid and we cant decide for ourselves what we want (Reminds me of apple a bit).

For example, ill state my case:
I bought Starcraft 2 the day it was for sale. I played the campaign, and after a small dissapointment for the missions (but just a bit), i went online, and after some months of beta beeing already running, i got to the highest league and top 10 in my league playing with 0 knowledge of the units and what they do.

I was sure this was only because i used to play broodwar, and i was quite good at it, but it turned out that after a year and some months, my friend got to grandmaster doing over and over the same thing, killing very well known players. At that point i quited the game noticing that the game was boring and broken.
Some time after that, since a new patch, i cant play sc2 campaign if im not connected to the internet...
So, all in all, i havent played that game (except user custom maps) for 6 months at least.

Then i heard about diablo 3. Having the expirience of starcraft 2, i decided to wait and see.
After watching a Diablo 3 stream for about 2 hours it was clear to me i wasent interested in it.
In other words, i did my research, and decided not to spend the money on it.

Since blizzard now spends a good chunk of cash on ads, people who havent been playing games like d2, or broodwar for years, and we had to actually buy the same game again because we lost the CD, or something like that... (hell i got 4 copies of d2 and 6 of broodwar myself), might not realize that you dont need ads when something is good, people will do that for you.

If you are spending cash on ads is to tell people that they need or want something.

If anything, we expected better from blizzard...
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September 24, 2012 9:36:28 AM

@dragonsqrrl and still no comment about the game or my game comments. I rest my case. We already had our discussion, and you chose not to show up to discuss anything but my feelings...LOL and you're still doing it.

I didn't even buy the game, so not upset about it at all. A little peeved I don't get to play it as I was looking forward to it. But I can't be bothered to pay for DRM/RMAH when games like Torchlight 2 are out there (by the same guys who made D1 & D2). :) 

Ugly, F-14, Cats etc...These are all echoing sentiment around the web. I'd almost be happy if they'd just update D1 & D2 up to today's standards. I can't wait for BG2 enhanced in Nov.

I owned ATVI stock until I found out the DRM was going to make people "RAGE" as you put it...LOL. I haven't looked back, and tossed all that money into NVDA :)  I will no longer respond to your comments as you haven't said a thing about the game in response to my original critique. Which figures. As I said before a typical dem response. "You made a great argument, so um...You're raging and you suck"...Nice..When I answered the first time with great detail (those reasons were why I didn't buy), I thought we were about to have a discussion. You instead avoided it, and discussed ME. I wonder how many times this year you've told someone to calm down after they formulated a great opinion that was different from your viewpoint? Never mind... :) 
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September 24, 2012 9:39:04 AM

OOPS...BG1 enhanced is nov (hit a 2 instead...LOL)...But BG2 is still coming I'd guess :)  They've already said they want to use the money from the first 2 for a 3RD! YEAH!
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September 24, 2012 9:46:50 AM

I heard about that but i thoguht it was a fake. By BG1 you mean baldurs gate 1?
If so, there is a high probability ill buy it myself, thou id have to see it first. (btw of baldurs game 1 i have 3 copies >D.)
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September 24, 2012 12:21:38 PM

Yes...Baldur's gate 1. I already have boxed copies also. But from before gog got them and made it easy to run win7 etc. They're the ancient ones from when both hit the boxes with expansions (complete editions if memory serves). Not fake at all man, I'm generally excited! 10 new hours of content too, made by the original guys also! I love that they are bringing back the classics.
http://baldursgate.com/
Go ahead, try to put your wallet away..I dare you...ROFL.
not sure if you've seen gog.com with NO DRM classics etc. Nothing on their site has DRM. Worth a visit if you're an old gamer like me. All packages in single file downloads etc. Great site. They made the witcher/witcher 2 games. I love those guys and their site.
BG1 Delayed last week to Nov though...bummer...But ok if they are just polishing the heck out of it. I haven't played in a long while though you can do a lot of it with hi-res addons already, I'll enjoy the package at $20 with updates, corrected text stuff, NEW content etc. I'd love to see the ultimas/wizardry series remade also. I grew up on those. :)  Clear back to the first ones wiz1 was black/white...LOL. Ouch I'm feeling old now. I want to see someone do Planescape Torment also. They have lots of stuff out that gets you hires and even font packs for it too, but it kind of ruins combat in that one, because it was designed for a small screen and not so you could see everything on the map at ultra..LOL. I'd like to see it modified to fix that/balance things out. All of them look great at 1920x1200 without enhancing them. Still check out the site. 400 improvements! MULTIPLAYER improved. $20...They will get my money for sure...LOL I can't even remember most of it...LOL. Kids of today totally missed out on half of the best games ever. Today only 10-15hrs, full of graphics with little gameplay for $60. Back then you couldn't find anything over $30. A great game can be made for $20 today as shown by torchlight 2 ceo here:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-09-18-torchl...
He makes the same $14 as he does selling retail copies at $60...Just by digital release at $20. I hope people follow their lead/Legends of grimrock too. $15 for that. WOW. They said they made enough to cover their next 3 years in dev! I can't wait for Grimrock 2 or for them to remake something old/great with updates. Prime candidates for the Wizardy 1-6 as grimrock is just like them but really good graphics. Pure dungeon crawler-real rgp stuff. Add the RPG stuff and I could easily see a wizardry remake! They have the dungeon engine down already. Direct contact with designers in their forums too. Only 4 people made that game! THEY LISTEN to buyers :)  Unlike Blizzard these days. I'd be happy paying $30 for games like these with just a bit more content (well, BG1 etc obviously 100+hrs, no need for more there, wizardry 8 another 100+ game most of the others were at least 40hrs+). I would have paid $20 for grimrock but got it for $13 :)  at launch special! Why do we pay $60 for any game? Dumb. Good luck trying to keep your $20 in your wallet after going to bg1 site..LOL. I think iphone/android sync launch delayed us, the PC version is done I think.
http://www.gamersnexus.net/features/gg/788-baldurs-gate...
With funding a 3d version can be done in dragon age as shown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTFtY6BXR6M&feature=rel...
The fun starts at 35 seconds or so..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go2lzUaFPNc&feature=rel...
VERY nice.
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September 24, 2012 2:36:56 PM

somebodyspecial@dragonsqrrlNot sure how to explain this to you...It's $20 vs. $60? Make sense now? OK, how about it lasts longer for that $20 and doesn't require draconian DRM? No RMAH (nuff said on that alone)? It's made by ex diablo people hence more like the real thing? 346 user ratings at 9.3 & metacratic score of 90?Diablo has 6605 user ratings @ 3.8? A lot of users couldn't even use the game, and some without internet that pre-ordered still can't use it? Still not getting it?Front page review at metacritic:Armchair empire: "But the dumbed character and inventory systems, coupled to the ridiculous always-on connection and the breathtaking arrogance of the"you'll play how we tell you to play" attitude makes playing this title a damned shame instead of a hell of a good time."=score 45. If you chuck out the reviews who pass out 100's (6 say it's 100? with all the online BS, servers not working at launch for some etc? seriously?) like their candy on halloween the 88 avg from reviewers comes down dramatically. The Armchair reviewer is stating it accurately. Torchlight listened to customers, whereas Blizzard decided how you should play for you Did I mention it's only $20?...LOL. Did I mention it's only $20...LOL...Did I...Oops My record was skipping... For $60 you get a game you may not be able to play and they virtually killed anyone wanting to mod it. This game won't be played in 12 years like D2 was. That party is over already for D3. I know a lot of people who have played through Torchlight 1 multiple times already. I'm sure they'll do it with T2 also. Did I mention T2 has lan/mod support for $20? Offline anyone? Torchlight 1 is even a close call vs. Diablo3 at $15 and only 450MB at Gog.com. Near infinite re-playability with Random dungeons. Both of these games make Diablo 3 much less impressive at $60 with lots of BS for the privilege of playing it (penalty of playing it?).


I read all of this with an upward inflection at the end of each sentence, since you used so many question marks..
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September 24, 2012 4:51:54 PM

A legendary ring? Really? Why not something that's visible like...helm...shoulders...or heaven forbid a weapon?
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September 24, 2012 6:12:50 PM

@velosteraptor - Since it's really totally opinion that was how it was meant :)  How much would have been enough to convince him? He was at loss understanding people rating it so well above D3. So yes...You are correctly reading it ;)  Though it wasn't that I didn't believe what I was saying. :) 

He himself said it was personal preference so...It was more like one big book of questions & from his opinion I really didn't expect him to buy my statements. He clearly doesn't understand the concept of voting with your wallet when a company puts in things screwing you. He'll deal with it, where I refuse. A large portion of people bought it not believing the good stuff was missing & crap like RMAH was added. IF you pre-ordered and left it at that you might have been pissed as the reviews of users shows.

I'm not quite sure why "word of mouth" or "bandwagoning" is bad in games today. It can quickly tell you reviewers are ignoring important stuff to users (drm, rmah, may not be able to play if server support is dropped, no lan parties? WTF? etc), and in the case of a great game sell it like crazy and support a great small dev who can't otherwise advertise. Both games are made by some participants from D1/D2. But the bigger company goes the DRM/RMAH way, $60 too and the smaller goes $20, no drm, no soak you for money, no server going down later worries etc.

D3 is essentially soaking the public who made them what they are today based on these classics sales while throwing out all that made them classics to begin with. Torchlight 2 is the real spiritual successor to D1/D2 IMHO. No lan? This game begged for it and they had to know we ALL wanted it (it was a staple in the others and VASTLY requested in forums for D3), but the RMAH killed that idea. Screwed the customers there. After 12 years or so we expected at least lan and no server dependance. If blizzard goes out of business or is bought by someone who doesn't care, they won't be supporting servers after a bankruptcy etc. Not that I'm saying that is the case today, but anyone can go under in the right circumstances. TTWO (take2) is nearing it, 38 studios went into bankruptcy just as Kingdoms of Amalur hit the shelves. OUCH. Junebud filed last month. Runestone not long ago. Fundex (rode high 2005/2006).
Since the start of 2006 over 60 game development companies have closed their doors and that's not a complete list. 3Drealms is in there too...dang!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=459131
I follow stocks so I tend to see balance sheets floating in my head when I hear servers are needed.
EA has lost 2.4Bil in the last 5 years wiping out all of their profits for the last 10yrs! OUCH.
Of course, I hope they go belly up and quit destroying good companies. We'd get back to some good games without the BS if tons of companies got a fresh start out of their umbrella.

Nvidia killed 3dfx in less than 5 years when they were #1 and dominant, NV got the last laugh and bought the engineers/IP while trashing the rest (they hated each other). It can happen quickly, hardware or software. If apple hadn't banned HTC stuff (stupid lawsuit), they would have made a crap-ton of money. Had the ban went much longer they might have had major financial issues. All kinds of things can go wrong unfortunately. Personally, I'll never support a game that requires a server to be alive in order to play. MMO's included. Lan parties are great (I'm not a loner), but MMO's with tons of kiddies ruining my experience chanting chat crap along with subscriptions (to anything...LOL) make me hate MMO'S. I realize I can turn them off but it kind of defeats part of the MMO fun. Have a good one :) 
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