oh i thought it was because the reference fx60 got a better score than the intel overclocked one, i guess im just dumb
I think you caught the more important point.
Of course, admittedly, the intel overclocked system wasn't used the top motherboard either, so that could have an effect.
Or they could have done a less than steller job overclocking, which isn't hard to do on an Athlon system if you don't know what you're doing.
Or there are all sorts of other posibilities. But I will say that Conroe does look promising.