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guys... i have my X2 4200 and A8n32 just for a couple of months... at first i got all the settings to default and run the A.I NOS feature cuz dun have time to tweak it yet. Only now i realize something's fishy... either at load or idle... the temp sticks at 44. and it's not moving at all in the bios's hardwaer monitor. tried updating the bios but no effect. changed the stock thermal compund with AS5 also gives me no result. can anyone here who also has A8N32 tell me how's their CPU goin..? could it be the thermal sensor's breaking or it is just the mobo...?

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that's because the ai booster software that comes with the mobo is defective, delete it and if u need to tweak anything, do it from the bios. had a very similar problem with my mobo

Reply to charlieyv
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i didnt get any software or asus utilities installed in.. i do all tweaking from the bios and got the reading of my temp from there as well.... :?

UPDATE: i've changed the cooler to Zalman CNPS9500... still gives me the same result... and now it goes u to 55 during prime65!!!! helppp!!!

Reply to HisoKa

have u tried resetting the bios?

Reply to charlieyv
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What PC case you using?

Are you getting good airflow?

How much AS5 did you use, and did you use your finger to apply it with?

That Zalman should be an exellent HSF for cooling. I know it's a big chunk of copper.. heh, but man... something up with it.

I'm guessing the sensors are fine.

Reply to Grimmy
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yeah.. tried resetting the BIOS... i am using Cooler Master Centurion 5 with one Silenx 80mm infront (intake) and one other 120mm at the back (exhaust). at first i am suspectiong my case airflow is not good enough... so i tried removing the side panel and leave it open... still no signs of dropping.


about the AS5, i applied very thin layer only.. just as instructed i the websites and reccomended by many in the forums...


:cry:

Reply to HisoKa
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How were the instructions for installing that HSF?

I was thinking about getting one, but it was the other one, 7700, later on.

I did see they have a animation on installing it:

Zalman Website - Install left side Flash

It must have been... a pain for 775 socket. 8O

Looks simple for my 478/939 socket.. :lol:

Reply to Grimmy
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installation was no sweat... pretty easy and straightforward for 939... just that u have to put the backplate on 775.... but man.. im getting crazy over the temppppp :cry:

Reply to HisoKa
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Try running speedfan, and see what it says

Reply to endyen

programs such as speedfan and all the rest just do the same as your mobos bios. i think they just hook into the bios anyway so if the thermostat is faulty or the bios is readingthem wrong i don't think speedfan will work any better.

the peak load my processor has wnet to is 45*c but my hsf wasn't attached right or something beacause after repostioning it it now doesn't go above 40 in a hot room hell if i leave a window open and have fresh air circulating it usually sticks in the 30's. with window open mine idles at sub30 sometimes.

Reply to strangestranger
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the peak load my processor has wnet to is 45*c but my hsf wasn't attached right or something beacause after repostioning it it now doesn't go above 40 in a hot room hell if i leave a window open and have fresh air circulating it usually sticks in the 30's. with window open mine idles at sub30 sometimes.




well... gues i'll just try replacing and reapplying my hsf / AS5 again... and see how it goes.... pray for me... haha, thx for all the responses guys :wink:

Reply to HisoKa
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I dont know for sure, but it sounds kind of normal to me. My 4400 doesnt vary much in temperature either. And it is normal for it to rise to 55 w/out watercooling while running prime 95...

Ai booster does suck though. Actually I switched my A8N-SLI Premium out for an EVGA board. Better and more options in the BIOS.

My Asus board seemed to hang a lot on me. Could be software related, but I havent had that problem with my other boards...

Reply to denster

i haven't actually run this prime 95 program but i do game and run folding@home so at least one core is always flat out. what case do you have and what sort of ventilation does your room have. seems odd that your max is 10-15*C higher than mine.

Reply to strangestranger
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what case do you have and what sort of ventilation does your room have. seems odd that your max is 10-15*C higher than mine.



It's a Cooler Master Centurion 5, with one SilenX 80mm (intake) at teh front, and one SilenX 120mm (exhaust) at the back. my room temp is around 20 - 25 C. at first i thought that my case is a bit too cramped... so i tried to leave the side panel open.. but still no change in the CPU temp......

Reply to HisoKa

well thats two people who both get higher temps than me. i did apply some new thermal paste to mine which might help. other than that it is important that their is fresh air circulation. room temp is not important as if you have no vetilation as it is just the same air going through you comp.

make sure that ther is alot of downforce on the cpu. too little air pressure can lead to air bublles afaik

Reply to strangestranger
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The only idea I have left is to point a big fan at the side of the case, just to see if the temp drops.

That is only to test the sensor to get a reaction. If the reading still sticks, then I would assume faulty sensor.

Is your MB still RMA-able?

Also.. how are the vcore voltage looking?

Reply to Grimmy
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The only idea I have left is to point a big fan at the side of the case, just to see if the temp drops.
That is only to test the sensor to get a reaction. If the reading still sticks, then I would assume faulty sensor.
is your MB still RMA-able?
Also.. how are the vcore voltage looking?



at the time im writing this.. the Vcore is 1.39. i think my mobo is still RMA - able.. but will i able to return it... only cuz my CPU temp is too high?

Reply to HisoKa

that voltage is the same as mine. this may be really difficult but have you a nice friend that has a socket 939 mobo and would let you test it out on that.

if the mobo sensors are faulty then of course you can send it back as it arrived that way so there should be no problem.

Reply to strangestranger
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i'm thinking on doing that too... anyway.. thanks for the replies! aprreciate it! :)

Reply to HisoKa
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STOP.

There's nothing wrong w/ those temps. Your idle is a little above normal- but nothing to be worred about. The maximum thermal limit of an Athlon 64 is well over 80C. You're nowhere near that.

My 4200+ idles at 39C and gets up to 59C under full dual core load. That's completely normal.

Relax. Don't go buy some ridiculous aftermarket solution and don't listen to have the yahoos around here who tell you 44C is high.

-mpjesse

Reply to mpjesse
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Pssst.. mpjesse.. are you on a stock HSF?

Can't seem to remember.

Reply to Grimmy
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STOP.

There's nothing wrong w/ those temps. Your idle is a little above normal- but nothing to be worred about. The maximum thermal limit of an Athlon 64 is well over 80C. You're nowhere near that.

My 4200+ idles at 39C and gets up to 59C under full dual core load. That's completely normal.

Relax. Don't go buy some ridiculous aftermarket solution and don't listen to have the yahoos around here who tell you 44C is high.

-mpjesse




but the thing is.. i am currently using Zalman CNPS9500. even my previously oc'd athlon 64 3000 didnt get that hot during idle... don't u think something is wrong...? cuz i also plan to oc the 4200 as well.. tt's y im a bit worried...

Reply to HisoKa

mpjesse overheating isn't the only problem he's having it is also to do with the temp being displayed is always 44*C regardless of load. we are merely trying to see if he can get any change in his temps and if not then we are suggesting he rma his mobo as the sensors are clearly malfunctioning

Reply to strangestranger
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Did you try pointing a fan at the side off? That should really make the temp drop below 44C. I also asked if his vcore was okay, which I guess isn't faulty. :lol:

If most people can get 39-38C on stock idle, surely, he should get around 32-34C idle with that big piece of copper.

If he wasn't planning on OC, I don't think he needs to be worried about temps. But if he is, then I think any OC would wonder about his/her temp on the core at certain times.

If having a temp sensor thats faulty is normal, then I don't know why he spent 60 bucks on the Zalman HSF.

I guess it is a piece of artwork.. should be able to see it from the side of the case. And during X-mas, he could decorate it like a tree. :D

Athough, it would be a really big bummer if he did RMA it, and had the same problem.

Say HisoKa, do you have background program running? Is your CPU load 0-2 percent when you leave it at idle?

That would be the only other thing I can think of, perhaps anti-virus, antispamware, ect, if it sticks at 44C.

Reply to Grimmy
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yes.. it's ard 0 - 2 % during idle... Vcore 1.39.. and no background program or whatsoever.. well.. my computer runs without problem at stock speed with that kind of temp... the thing is i wanna squeeze abit more out of it.. so im planning on oc... that's y the temp comes into my concern... and it even crashes when i increase my fsb a mere 5mhz... like it keeps restarting as soon as it goes inside windows...

Reply to HisoKa

tbh if something aint right fix it i say. thats why we've been trying to help the guy. he's obviously invested in a new cooler and is interested in monitoring temps and you guys are saying just put up with it. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU TWO. if something is wrong get it fixed. bad QC checks should not be happening and if you don't report faults then they won't know will they.

also just becasue you get bad temps doesn't mean others should as well. at idle i can get mine down to sub 30 with my window open and there is no reason he can't either.

hiskoa have you tried downloading the monitoring tool from asus's website. i use their pc probe 2 as i think i mentioned earlier. it works for me. for all we know it could just be a faulty bios or monitoring program.

thats directed at wusy and mpjesse btw

Reply to strangestranger
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ahaha, i don't mind with anything they said tho ^^ yes strangestranger, i am monitoring both from the BIOS and the PCProbe as well.. and i think the PC probe also got its reading thru the BIOS tt is smth called the ACPI if im not wrong... but yea... it could be that i've done some mistake or overlooked some small stuff till the temp goes up... i appreciate all the replies in this topic ^^ thx alott

Reply to HisoKa

one i have no idea about that argument and i help anyone who asks. also read his original post. his temps aint moving from 44. if he plays a game his temps shoudl go up. similarily if he tries to cool it down it should cool but it stays firm.

Reply to strangestranger
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I hope I wasn't sounding like an ass..

I do think he should get 3-5C min (Idle) difference with that HSF.

I believe he should do the proper troubleshooting to really determine if it is a fautly temp sensor. I only assumed it was faulty, if he says it stays at 44C. It also could mean.. the polling is just really slow.. not that the senor is bad.

It would be really bad to RMA the MB to find the same temps, on the replacement board.

But it would be really nice, to help this guy figure out what we can to get better temp readings.

And I'm not from the new generation, nor do I need to use the language that pretty much shows that quality.

HisoKa, when you ran Prime95, you did say it got to 55C. Did it go back down to 44C? To me, if it did, it might be working just fine. But it should go below 44C when you have a big, lets say, 24" fan blowing on high, with room temp air on it. If it doesn't budge, then that is my assumption its faulty.

And.. when you ran Prime95, was it running on both cores or just one?
<please say you did it on both at the same time :lol:>

Dunno if MM5 can support it, but have you tried another windows monitor app?

Reply to Grimmy
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Well.. tell me. What is one thing that does matter when overclocking?

Especially, if it was.. a Prescott? (in this case it isn't, but trying to prove one point)

After seeing my P4 2.66 hit 63-65C OC to 3ghz I pretty much knew, I didn't want to run my CPU at that speed with stock HSF.

Now.. if I didn't know, it was running at 63+C, and OC it anyways, and saw a temp of 44C because of a faulty sensor...

You can imagine I would have problems later on.

Reply to Grimmy
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Errr.. I wasn't talking about physical tempatures, or exact temps.

I was talking about OC'ing, and taking considerations to what the sensors are telling me or the person observing it.

I know for a fact, I couldn't tell you exactly how cold or hot something is by touching it, or going into a room.. but say.. its warm, or cool, chilly, hot.. humid.

But I know if the temp ouside is 105F degrees from a weather channel or thermometer, I shouldn't wear a coat.

I do trust to a point of what a MB sensor says thats going on. Or GPU temps. I recently changed my stock hsf to zalmans hsf. And I pretty much saw the difference. Now I can't say it is exactly right, but I know there is a temp difference, and worth the investment in protecting my GPU from heat.

Reply to Grimmy
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LOL okay... wusy. I'll leave him alone, though I don't recall, provoking him to do.. anything.

Ya... we dont need sinking sensors. It's all over rated.

But did you know, AMD is more cost effective power and heat wise?

You prolly do.

Hmmm, you think those sensors told them anything?

Naaa... their not accuate enough.. I'll let it be at that.

Reply to Grimmy
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Ummm... I realize that. But he stated in subsequent posts that the temperature DID in fact change in the monitor. Read his first reply in this thread:

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i didnt get any software or asus utilities installed in.. i do all tweaking from the bios and got the reading of my temp from there as well....

UPDATE: i've changed the cooler to Zalman CNPS9500... still gives me the same result... and now it goes u to 55 during prime65!!!! helppp!!!
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X2 4200+ / A8N32 SLI Deluxe / 1GB Twinx XLPT / XFX 7800GTX / Audigy 2



The problem could still be the motherboard, but it isn't "stuck" at 44C.

-mpjesse

Reply to mpjesse

oops my bad, i've nothing left than to come back with my argumnet of its still at least 10*C higher than my cpu get under load. i don't think he should settle for that considering he has a better cooler than me. no one has suggested a reason why his temps are so bad. im going with a fault somewhere and hopefully he figures out where.

Reply to strangestranger
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All I can say, is that his temps are questionable, for improvement, but I wouldn't say it really that bad.

Heh, I just kinda wonder if it can't read temps below 44C.

Which really isn't bad at all, but as long as it responds to heat, he can still OC to see if it shows higher temps, and stays below.. well from my perference 70C.

The worst senerio, the system should back throttle to prevent damage.

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