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March 13, 2006 9:25:36 PM

Their was an evga 7900GT that i wanted to pick up from newegg.com but its out of stock and not so much as even a restock date :evil: 

It was like THE best bang for the buck because it was only 299$ and it was clocked at 500/1500 (dont know if thats stock or they oc'ed the hell out of it).

So does it look good for me to get one before the end of this month??? :?

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March 13, 2006 9:28:04 PM

The GTX's are going to be back in stock this week (16th or 17th) so i would guess next week the 7900GT's will be in.
March 13, 2006 10:12:01 PM

I was also debating the X1800XT 256MB... but the only one the egg carries is a saphire OEM
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March 13, 2006 10:28:24 PM

nope 7900GT kills it badly. just have some patients.
March 13, 2006 10:52:46 PM

and by that of course he means go out, get your PhD, start a practice and acquire some patients to provide medical care to. :twisted:
March 13, 2006 11:29:08 PM

just wait. seriously. if u get a x1800, forget about adding anything else to ur pc except for a usb hub*snickers*. it is huge! i heard it doesnt even finish 3dmark!
March 14, 2006 2:21:23 AM

The 7900 GT is cooler, way quieter since it doesnt have a blow dryer on top of it. Has great overclockability and equals beats the 1800XT 512 mb on stock speeds, so imagine oc speeds. Go to zipzoomfly.com. PRONTO. THEY HAVE ALOT in stock, from $309 (was $299, but price went up) Free 2nd Day shipping. :D  Im expecting mine on Wenesday
March 14, 2006 3:06:40 AM

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Their was an evga 7900GT that i wanted to pick up from newegg.com but its out of stock and not so much as even a restock date :evil: 

It was like THE best bang for the buck because it was only 299$ and it was clocked at 500/1500 (dont know if thats stock or they oc'ed the hell out of it).

So does it look good for me to get one before the end of this month??? :?



I'm totally sorry. I managed to get one on the day of the release. The price was 319...but when you looked at the item it said 299...I scooped it up, going to be here Tuesday or Wednesday....it is enroute :) 

Have been pricing, and picking all the pieces of my rig, and when I saw the announcement and them on sale at Newegg....that was enough for me to pull the trigger on all of it.

Picked up a X2 4400 along with an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe mobo. Will be picking up a 2nd eVGA 7900GT in about 6 months :) 

7900GT is better than the 7800GTx...it is smaller, it runs faster and it runs cooler and it runs quieter...AND for 100-150 less.....what is there not to like about the 7900GT?
March 14, 2006 3:01:48 PM

Take a look at this benchmark:
http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q1/geforce-7600-7900/...
I don't trust this site but:
7900GT is BY NO MEANs(i don't care about 3d marks i only care about FPSes and game performance) faster it's roughly equal to a 1800XT( spare me the games meant to run on nvidia) but 1800XT has a much better IQ. Power consumption is not important and the 1800XT won't overheat. Again for 300$ i'd rather go for a more visually impressive card. Cause performance speaking,both will run like charm and SLI is useless cause by the time you decide to upgrade your gfx there will be a card costing only a couple of bucks more that will perform on par to your SLI configuration.
7900GT is a good card but too much fuss about is being made. It's a good card but again it has "poor" IQ and i've seen many seeing the difference when switching to ATI.
March 14, 2006 3:17:02 PM

Funny, cuase I have an ATI and I'm switching back to nVidia :) 
March 14, 2006 5:59:17 PM

Well i'm no ATI fanboy,i just like better IQ. And i have a nvidia gfx card BTW.
March 14, 2006 6:23:49 PM

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if u get a x1800, forget about adding anything else to ur pc except for a usb hub*snickers*. it is huge! i heard it doesnt even finish 3dmark!


"What you heard" is a bunch of BS.

As you can see from my sig, even the lowly X1800 XL will finish 3dMark quite nicely, thanks.

An X1800 XT will hold up very well to a 7900 GT. The X1800 XT is considered slightly better than a 7800 GTX, and a 7900 GT is basically a 7800 GTX with a slight clockspeed boost.

Anybody who says the X1800 XT isn't in the same league as a 7900 GT is quite mistaken...

The X1800 XT will meet, and usually beat, the 7900 GT.

Check firingsquad's benches:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_7900_gt_gtx_performance/page9.asp

The X1800 XT will beat the 7900 GT in:

Half Life 2
Battlefield 2
Quake 4 at high res/AA (!!!)
FEAR
COD 2
Serious Sam 2

So what the heck are you guiys doing dissin the X1800 XT?
March 14, 2006 6:49:58 PM

can someone explain whats the difference between the gt and gtx they both have 24 pipelines but how many shaders (and i know about the ram and core clock difference just are their any factors apart from that that make the cards different from one another)
a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2006 7:02:42 PM

Hey thanks for pointing out some facts and saving me the time of having to respond more than "I agree with what Cleeve said". Reading on down it was quite obvious a few people had a twisted view of reality.

As is typical lately, they trade blows in current games, so individual people could easily pick either as being best for them. But overall, the X1800XT is easily at least on par with the 7900GT; in my book it's ahead. I'd like to see 256MB X1800XT take on 7900GT in a few trustworthy reviews, as well as these two cards price battle each other below $300 USD.
March 14, 2006 7:18:53 PM

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can someone explain whats the difference between the gt and gtx they both have 24 pipelines but how many shaders


The 7900 GT and GTX have identical features: 24 pixel shaders, 8 vertex shaders, 24 texture units and 16 raster operation processors.

They differe only in clockspeeds.

7900 GTX: 650/800
7900 GT: 450/660
March 14, 2006 7:31:06 PM

I like the one with 560/1535 7900GT!!!! It's faster than my 7800GTX and it's like $150 cheaper!!!! :D 

And they sell faster than crack on friday night!!!!!! :D 
March 14, 2006 8:15:25 PM

Lets get this straight. The 7900 GT at stock speeds is equal to the 1800 XT, give and take some. The 1800XT beats the 7900GT by like 1-4 frames in the games you mentioned. And thats without tweaking., etc. They are NECK AND NECK so don't lie. When the 7900 GT is oced it beats the 1800xt 512 mb by small and medium margins. Bottom line is that they are neck and neck stock. The 7900 GT is quieter (no blow dryer on top), Its smaller, Its cooler running and it oc's like a beast. If you like noise, heat etc then go ahead with the 1800 xt. They are both good cards anyways. The dude that said he'll take a 1800xt cause it looks more attractive is silly. WHat are you going to be doing, staring at it through your pc case. Please. :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2006 8:45:23 PM

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Lets get this straight. The 7900 GT at stock speeds is equal to the 1800 XT, give and take some. The 1800XT beats the 7900GT by like 1-4 frames in the games you mentioned.


Better look again. 1-4 fps is WAY off base.

BF2 with AA/AF the X1800XT is 50% faster at some playable resolutions.

Fear AA/AF 8+ fps

COD2 AA/AF 10+ fps

Honeslty, look over the link he gave, and the games he mentioned. There is often a 20-50% difference in framerates and at playable settings even. Where you getting 1-4 fps in the games he mentioned?
March 14, 2006 9:13:41 PM

HAHAHAH, People like you so called "nerds" base everything on a irrelevent benchmark. The BF2 benchmark either had all settings on ultra low, or it was ademo benchmark of some sort, Or these must be the highest frame rate recorded. PLEASE! You actually think the 1800XT plays BF2 at 140 Frames per second. :roll: What are you smoking, 140 frames? Even the 7900 Gt 112 frames obviously arnt accurate. Like I said this isnt gameplay. BF2 doesnt play at 140 Frames per second, I dont know of any game that has fps that fast. Its silly. If these are the benchmarks that make you feel like a ATI king Kong then you were fooled. Look at real gameplay frames ok.
140 FPS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 
March 14, 2006 9:21:49 PM

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can someone explain whats the difference between the gt and gtx they both have 24 pipelines but how many shaders


The 7900 GT and GTX have identical features: 24 pixel shaders, 8 vertex shaders, 24 texture units and 16 raster operation processors.

They differe only in clockspeeds.

7900 GTX: 650/800
7900 GT: 450/660 thank you cleeve so for 300$ i can get my self a near gtx card right and if i oc it will be about even cause the ram is 1.2 ns on the gt and 1.1. on the gtx so if i oc i get a gtx for cheap :D  and this sucks that the gtx was supposed to have 32 pipes but it only has 24 :cry: 
a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2006 9:30:53 PM

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HAHAHAH, People like you so called "nerds" base everything on a irrelevent benchmark. The BF2 benchmark either had all settings on ultra low, or it was ademo benchmark of some sort, Or these must be the highest frame rate recorded. PLEASE! You actually think the 1800XT plays BF2 at 140 Frames per second. :roll: What are you smoking, 140 frames? Even the 7900 Gt 112 frames obviously arnt accurate. Like I said this isnt gameplay. BF2 doesnt play at 140 Frames per second, I dont know of any game that has fps that fast. Its silly. If these are the benchmarks that make you feel like a ATI king Kong then you were fooled. Look at real gameplay frames ok.
140 FPS :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 


Oh what a pitiful attempt to cover your butt. "settings on ultra low" LOL, stop before I wet myself. Yeah, they always review high end video cards at ultra low settings. :roll: :roll: :lol:  Well, lets face the facts, you said 1-4 fps in the games he mentioned, which was completely untrue. Hide your mistake any way you would like. You were wrong, plain and simple.

Did you even read his link, or just pull 1-4 fps out of your state of denial? "NV new card, must be best, me no believe benchmarks, timedemos, or da pros who doos dem reviews.

Few sites use real world gameplay as it is not repeateable and less accuracte for dierect comparison. So you are beasically stating video card reviews not using actual gameplay have no bases, so I will pull a number out of the toilet to make my choice look better? Interesting what the "non-geeks" do to justify those they cheer for.

[H] uses real gameplay, but has not reviewed the 7900GT. But the slower 7800GTX was able to play BF2 at 1600x1200 with all eye candy maxed out.

Here, in case you are challeneged and can't click through to the other pages: :roll:
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_7900...
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_7900...

Ok, maybe on a P4 1.7 willie on sdr your 1 fps difference would hold true. :lol: 
March 14, 2006 9:38:48 PM

Actually, he needa an M.D degree. Ph.D's are teaching and research based, in higher education.
a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2006 10:03:49 PM

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2717&p=6

Here is another "irrelevent benchmark". How stupid of another geek site to do a video card comparison when we could just assume they perform about the same. I guess by your logic or lack thereof, we might as well throw out these results too as we all know that all these single or dual cards would perform within 1-4 fps of each other. :roll:
March 14, 2006 10:38:41 PM

hahahah, And how does ATI display games better thsn Nvidia. Tell me, 8) Thats so funny hahahah,. You actually said that a 1800Xt displays games better than a 7900GT. LOL, That is the most sillyist statement I heard. At least come up with something like "its faster". Its "performs", has good frames. Well my keyboard types letters better than yours.
a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2006 10:58:45 PM

Are you capable of real info, or is everything a joke to you?

IQ is subjective to some degree, but reviews have pointed out areas where ATI IQ(image quality) is higher.

Also, only ATI currently allows for HDR and FSAA to be used at once, which if playable is an image quality/feature benefit.

Another NV issue is texture crawling or shimmering. [H] finally joins other less know sites and brings this out in the open. It was also mentioned in another 7900 review, guru3d I think. It's caused by optimizations that are on by default in NV's drivers. Disable these optimizations and the 7900 takes a big performance hit. So if you notice the shimmering and want to get rid of it, you at least can disable the optimizations, but will get worse performance.

If you care to learn something or read about another issue you may deny, read the Shimmering section near the bottom of this page. Note, and I quote "Comparatively, texture crawling is much worse on NVIDIA GPUs than on ATI GPUs from our experience" http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTAwMSwx...
March 14, 2006 10:58:45 PM

hahahah, The 1800 XT wasnt even in the reviews. HAHA, And that was against mostly SLI setups. Bottom line, The 7900 GT is a Shark In a Guppy POOL. 7900 GT is beast and its killing its compitition. Hate it or love it. There can ony be one Middleweight CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!!!!!! DING, DING, DING, DING, DING, DING. Winner by a second round KO, the new champion of the world, 7900 GT. WHOAAA.....what, what! Are those ATI fanboys in the corner chanting that the match was rigged...
a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2006 11:09:13 PM

I guess this last post answered my question. You are simply a fanboy troll out for laughs and incapable of accepting or admitting reality. I shouldn't waste the time on you.

The 7900GT is a great card for the money. But it's not the X1800XT killer you think it is. As good a move as NV made releasing such a nice card like the 7900GT, ATI countered it by having $300 X1800XT's available. I'd like to see these 256MB cards compared. My guess is only COD2 will take a hit from less memory. But For the same price as a 7900GT, I'd grab the X1800XT and I am a 6800U and 7800GT owner.

Read it and weep. X1800XT on newegg cheaper than any of their 7900GT's. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
a b U Graphics card
March 14, 2006 11:22:50 PM

Yeah, a few lines in their conclusion seem to be written by someone other than the reviewer. I mean, they don't add up to what they benchmarked/played, not to mention how much they hated the shimmering issues and felt it negatively impacted the gaming experience. Very odd wording, but I doubt by any means would they suggest a X1800XT owner go and buy a 7900GT but rather the 7900 GTX and the X1800XL owner go to 7900GT. I reread that many times when I first read the review, and something still doesn't jive.
March 15, 2006 1:26:55 AM

:cry:  :cry:  :cry:  , BOO< BOO, Hooo. I purchased a 7900 GT at newegg when there was a 1800XT. Awwwwww, sucks. Maybe I could have fit a Accelero X1 cooler on there, I always wanted one of those. It does have a pretty color, red heatsink. And it would look good with the accelero cooler. Awwww, well guess ill just settle for a 7900GT with 24 pixel pipelines and just put a Vf700 on there and oc it it a monster. Its not as "hot" (Im talking about heat here guys) LOL as the 1800 XT. :o  OK, all joking aside, first off both these cards are neck and neck, especially when u oc the 7900 GT.The only reason you didnt find a $299 gt on there is because they are sold out. DUH! Newegg isnt the only site with 7900 gts, theres like three other sites with 7900 gts, the lowest is about $289. Pricegrabber people :wink: Honestly I would love a 1800XT and the accelero cooler I wanted. I mean if they all perform almost the same I wouldnt prefer one over the other. The only reason i went Nvidia in a case where the cards are neck and neck and u win one way or the other, is because Ive never used ATI and Ive heard so many bad things about their drivers. Always seems to be some issues with the catalyst. If the drivers and control panels are as good as nvidia I wouldnt mind a 1800 XT. Also, whats up with this so called Shimmering. From what ive heard its botherd Nvidia cards since the FX series. And i havnt seen a thing, I looked at the screen shots that are supposed to show how shimmering in Half life 2 and I couldnt see any difference. Is this one of those things only 24 hour a day gamers and computer graphic whizzes notice. Is someone that plays 360, and then pc games for example going to notice this shimmering issue? Just wondering.
a b U Graphics card
March 15, 2006 1:40:39 AM

Wow, you can be serious. good to know. :wink:

You'll be thrilled with the 7900GT. I'm stuck with a 7800GT, but at least it was only $255.

The shimmering can not be seen in screenshots, but only in motion while playing. Most people don't ever see it. But many people have complained about it, some sites have dug into it and others haven't touched the issue. Like [H] said, they knew of it but never saw it before playing on a widescreen 24". But it sounds like they will not let it go until NV fixes it. The thing is, if you see it, and it bugs you, disable the optimization. Problem is, for those lucky enough to own such a monitor, 1920x1200 is a stressful native res to try and maintain in some games, especially if needing to knock down performance by disabling optimizations. But it does make you question what settings to use when comparing cards. (driver defaults vs optimizations off)

Today is the first day I have seen the $299 X1800XT on Newegg, thx to Cleeves link. The $349 HIS has been out since before the 7900GT launch. Who knows, they may sell out too and make that a hard to grab alternative. Both great cards and either one can win depending on the games played.
March 15, 2006 2:44:34 AM

Yeah, Both do look really great. Ocing the 7900GT makes of for the slight flak it takes in some games against the 1800XT, but they are all neck and neck. Honestly, the 1800XT looks great at $299, Its an OEM version thats why the price is reduced but soon enough all 1800Xt's should be down. One reason I was interested in the 1800XT is it can be easily fitted with the accelero X2 heatsink (which is really quiet and cools like a beast), and I wanted that heatsink. The 7900GT has a smaller pcb than the previous 7800's making that cooling option impossible. And I might do a little research on the ATI drivers. like I said Im not familiar with the catalyst drivers but I want to see how they work and whats different from Nvidia Forceware drivers. The 7900 Gt fan kinda bothers me. The thing about tiny fans like that is the spin so fast and create a bad noise. My old 5500 FX has a tiny fan similar to the 7900 gt but howls and is really noticable in a quiet room. Those smaller fans also collect dust under them really quick. I was thinking about the Zalman VF700. But I dont know if the fan noise on 12 v is loud or not.

Honestly after gaming on this FX5500 for so long and seeing the type of quality i see I dont think ill notice shimmering on the 7900 im getting:lol:  , Yeah, it must be on bigger monitors. Hopefully I dont get it.
March 15, 2006 3:12:53 PM

Very good post dude. This should help people have a clear view on what they are buying.
March 15, 2006 3:29:42 PM

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Hate it or love it. There can ony be one Middleweight CHAMPION OF THE WORLD!!!!!!! DING, DING, DING, DING, DING, DING. Winner by a second round KO, the new champion of the world, 7900 GT. WHOAAA.....


How could I respond to such well thought out points as "DING DING", "CHAMPION OF THE WORLD", or "WHOAAAA"?
Do you think that shouting the loudest makes you the most right?

I have an idea... instead of whooping around like an tool, let's concentrate on the facts:

1. A stock X1800 XT will, in the majority of benches, beat a 7900 GT

2. The X1800 XT does not have the limitation that the 7900 series has of no OpenEXR HDR & AA at the same time

3. The X1800 XT handles shader heavy games better than a 7900 GT, and this gives it better long term viability.


The 7900 GT is a great card, certainly not a bad choice by any means... especially for the overclockers.

But given the choice the X1800 XT has a bit more going for it stock, and certainly has nothing to apologize for.

And before you respond, you should know I can only answer valid points. Whooping and Dinging will get you nothing, except maybe some embarrasing observations you probably don't want to hear.
March 15, 2006 4:53:52 PM

Before you start running those lips look at my last 2 above posts u sorry @ss excuse for a human being :lol:  . Let me post it for u so your illiterate excuse for a nerd bum can read clearly. What, you want a link to dictionary.com too :lol: 

Yeah, Both do look really great. Ocing the 7900GT makes of for the slight flak it takes in some games against the 1800XT, but they are all neck and neck. Honestly, the 1800XT looks great at $299, Its an OEM version thats why the price is reduced but soon enough all 1800Xt's should be down. One reason I was interested in the 1800XT is it can be easily fitted with the accelero X2 heatsink (which is really quiet and cools like a beast), and I wanted that heatsink. The 7900GT has a smaller pcb than the previous 7800's making that cooling option impossible. And I might do a little research on the ATI drivers. like I said Im not familiar with the catalyst drivers but I want to see how they work and whats different from Nvidia Forceware drivers. The 7900 Gt fan kinda bothers me. The thing about tiny fans like that is the spin so fast and create a bad noise. My old 5500 FX has a tiny fan similar to the 7900 gt but howls and is really noticable in a quiet room. Those smaller fans also collect dust under them really quick. I was thinking about the Zalman VF700. But I dont know if the fan noise on 12 v is loud or not.

Honestly after gaming on this FX5500 for so long and seeing the type of quality i see I dont think ill notice shimmering on the 7900 im getting:lol:  , Yeah, it must be on bigger monitors. Hopefully I dont get it with the nvidia card.
March 15, 2006 5:02:54 PM

I was replying to the last page, arse, where you called us names...

"Nerd"? What the hell are you doing on a computer hardware forum if you consider that an insult? What, are you just stopping in here on your way to the 'hood? I might need a dictionary, but you need a link to reality.com. :lol: 

But I digress I see you have acknowledged the error in your ways. More power to you, homey.

I wouldn't worry too much about the shimmering. If it's that bad they'll fix it in a driver update.

Have fun with the 7900... it will take you places your 5500 couldn't even dream of.
March 15, 2006 9:42:54 PM

Hahaha :lol:  . Just a little jokes thrown back and forth :D  Thats all Cleeve. No hard feelings :wink: Well yeah the 180Xt is a great canidate for $299. I would have got that but I think newegg dropped the price right after I bought the 7900GT. But both of them are really neck and neck, and the 7900 is a good overclocker. I guess its just preference. Like whether you like the Steelers or Eagles( their superbowl team) both are good teams but are a little different similar to the 7900 gt and 1800XT. I Havnt heard the fan on the 7900Gt, but I have a VF700 I ordered (hope it isnt loud on 12v) so i think that will be better than the stock fan.
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