It seems finally the whole computer industry is getting back on track, turning away from hot products to more efficent products that are faster, cheaper and colder, more promising atlast.
Pentium 4 went from a warm processor (wilamette to northwood with 89w max) to an oven (prescott onward with 130w and gaining an extra core or 400mhz max) without any major performance gain (actually slower then a northwood clock for clock) and is finally getting back to efficent with conroe, on the other hand how would things turn out if prescott got colder and more efficnet (4ghz with say 70w rather then 130+w) leading the way through 5ghz? Did AMD just strike it lucky since there 90nm is nearing the end with over half a year remaining?
AMD went from the AthlonXP with its overheating issue (mainly cause of no thermal protection and heatsink designs) to the Athlon64 which solved every K7 issue and added performance but is now at the limit (110w) until the introduction of AM2 dropping heat and power to better levels unlil 65nm comes in next year, but atleast there 115w is explainable (performance per watt etc) unlike prescotts hot and slow aproach, but soon conroe will make it look like a prescott - we now have movement and about time.
On the Video card side Nvidia copped the same issues with there FX5800 blowing out heat and performing worse then ATis matching model, but is now on track from the 6 and 7 series (valit heat for performance) and especially with the 7900 adding more performance and less heat aswell as being cheaper (less sillicon etc).
Now all we have to do on the CPU front is wait for conroe to force AMD to lower prices while its ahead to get some real bargains and thats what i and most of you like, AMD has had the best run so far i believe but as it did to Intel, its leapfrog time for Intel with Conroe.
What we all realise is AMD "might have something ready to take on conroe" but it works both ways - Intel might also have something ready for that already - they do have 45nm samples working already, but dont get me wrong AMD might alter the design and do everything at once with 65nm - theres a decent amount of time to develop a cpu between now and then.
We shall see what happens in 4 months, and then next year with 65nm AMDs.
As for AMD and Intel fanboys (or ATi and Nvidia) - your companys suck!!!!! LOL, your there slaves, your suckers! - dont buy a grossly overpriced cpu because its x brand, your an Idiot if you do - buy what best suits your needs at the time and availability - eg why buy a hot Intel for the same price as a colder AMD, and as for Conroe coming out, even if it beats AMDs top models AMD will lower prices and make a top buy, Intel will take a long time to lower prices especially to match AMDs prices so AMD will have a better bang for the buck!!!
Yeah that seems long enough
My two cents
Pentium 4 went from a warm processor (wilamette to northwood with 89w max) to an oven (prescott onward with 130w and gaining an extra core or 400mhz max) without any major performance gain (actually slower then a northwood clock for clock) and is finally getting back to efficent with conroe, on the other hand how would things turn out if prescott got colder and more efficnet (4ghz with say 70w rather then 130+w) leading the way through 5ghz? Did AMD just strike it lucky since there 90nm is nearing the end with over half a year remaining?
AMD went from the AthlonXP with its overheating issue (mainly cause of no thermal protection and heatsink designs) to the Athlon64 which solved every K7 issue and added performance but is now at the limit (110w) until the introduction of AM2 dropping heat and power to better levels unlil 65nm comes in next year, but atleast there 115w is explainable (performance per watt etc) unlike prescotts hot and slow aproach, but soon conroe will make it look like a prescott - we now have movement and about time.
On the Video card side Nvidia copped the same issues with there FX5800 blowing out heat and performing worse then ATis matching model, but is now on track from the 6 and 7 series (valit heat for performance) and especially with the 7900 adding more performance and less heat aswell as being cheaper (less sillicon etc).
Now all we have to do on the CPU front is wait for conroe to force AMD to lower prices while its ahead to get some real bargains and thats what i and most of you like, AMD has had the best run so far i believe but as it did to Intel, its leapfrog time for Intel with Conroe.
What we all realise is AMD "might have something ready to take on conroe" but it works both ways - Intel might also have something ready for that already - they do have 45nm samples working already, but dont get me wrong AMD might alter the design and do everything at once with 65nm - theres a decent amount of time to develop a cpu between now and then.
We shall see what happens in 4 months, and then next year with 65nm AMDs.
As for AMD and Intel fanboys (or ATi and Nvidia) - your companys suck!!!!! LOL, your there slaves, your suckers! - dont buy a grossly overpriced cpu because its x brand, your an Idiot if you do - buy what best suits your needs at the time and availability - eg why buy a hot Intel for the same price as a colder AMD, and as for Conroe coming out, even if it beats AMDs top models AMD will lower prices and make a top buy, Intel will take a long time to lower prices especially to match AMDs prices so AMD will have a better bang for the buck!!!
Yeah that seems long enough
My two cents