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March 15, 2006 12:49:17 AM

Damn.. I saw all those post about conroe.. but no processor yet?? How come? Does Intel cannot built them in reliably in sufficient quantity? Why wait that long? Nothing's ready enough yet to ensure world wide distribution? And, does benchmarked sample were hand picked sample that were fuctionnal enough to ensure proper performance? What is so fun bragging about an inexistant product for consumers?

I cannot simply admire the stupidity of most poster here about conroe.... AMD fanboy are no better too. But I should say, they seems less stupid. Less stupid do not mean not stupid thou.. There is still stupidity in them, but less than expected, I admit. But, I guess that, after being bashed by AMD fanboy because of the bad performances overall of their favourite CPU, Intel fanboy now just come her with a vengence. Well, not that AMD fanboy did not suffer from Intel fanboy in Thunderbird time, when they were getting hotter than Intel cpu.. So, it is one, then the other, then the other one...

What mostly amaze me is how fanboy has no life apart their love in their cpu. While I'm not going to judge them, I can at least, feel some pity for them... well, actually not.

And of all stupid intel fanboy, Amdmeltdown is the smartest of them. he knows how to play its game. All he does is to post something against AMD and all the stupid fanboy unite to answer his post. Unless he's posting false information that could mislead some newbies, there is no reason to answer that kind of post. But, just like a cow that shit in the field, here come the flies to eat it..

By the way, if you think that Monroe is fast, just wait next years... And if you think that next year cpu will be fast, wait for the next one afetr the next one. Still haven't see the next one after the next one after the next one..

It's no wonder why consumer support is so lame, when all you see posted is that kind of crap. The generation posting now is the one that will make tomorrow!!! That's scary! No clue about anything but speaking anyway. No real experience with anything but their own stuff, but advising anyway. Some time ago, Tom's forums were one of the most respected one. With quality poster that knew their stuff. While there were fanboy back then too, they were at least knowledgeable. While fugger was one Intel fanboy, no one can't say he don't know what he's talking about. Now, most poster are morons fanboy that has nothing better to do that sitting in front of their computer waiting to bash the next poster that goes against their favorite brand. And if there is no post, then they turn to their favorite manufaturer web site and start masturbate looking at those "hot" cpu picture.

Anyway, it was a while since I posted here, in this forum, and it may be long enough before I come back posting anywy. If you want to post in this thread, then go ahead. I may not answer.. as I may not come back here for a while. There is things in life way more better than posting in a forum with so much morons.

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March 15, 2006 12:54:02 AM

That turned quickly into a Fanboy flame..it kinda steered away from the topic you have..

@Topic: It's because Conroe is a fake CPU and Intel is lying to us all because they have the money to ;) . :p 

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 15, 2006 1:01:13 AM

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And of all stupid intel fanboy, Amdmeltdown is the smartest of them. he knows how to play its game. All he does is to post something against AMD and all the stupid fanboy unite to answer his post. Unless he's posting false information that could mislead some newbies, there is no reason to answer that kind of post. But, just like a cow that **** in the field, here come the flies to eat it..

And sadly I enjoy watching all those low IQ AMD fanboys pilling all over his thread! :lol: 

Likewise 8O

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
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March 15, 2006 1:03:50 AM

That was kinda my goal. Someone post a question, then, after a while and some instructive answer, here come the fanboy ..
March 15, 2006 1:07:03 AM

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That was kinda my goal. Someone post a question, then, after a while and some instructive answer, here come the fanboy ..


And you think you're some God who is a complete 100% Non-Fanboy?

@Wusy: It's not something to be proud of to be "knowledgable" on a forum, it proves either you know alot, or you're good at Googling 8O.

EDIT: I am one to say FUGGER doesn't know his way out of a paper bag.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 15, 2006 1:25:54 AM

Good post pat, and you are right, the forums are much more valuable if the BS threads are kept to a minimum. When it gets to the point that only 1 or 2 threads on page are useful or informative is not helpful to the posters requiring help.
March 15, 2006 1:44:29 AM

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And of all stupid intel fanboy, Amdmeltdown is the smartest of them. he knows how to play its game. All he does is to post something against AMD and all the stupid fanboy unite to answer his post. Unless he's posting false information that could mislead some newbies, there is no reason to answer that kind of post. But, just like a cow that **** in the field, here come the flies to eat it..

And sadly I enjoy watching all those low IQ AMD fanboys pilling all over his thread! :lol: 

Likewise 8O

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

8O 8O 8O
March 15, 2006 1:49:23 AM

Conroe is not out yet cause, Intel hasn't released it. DUH! :lol: 

Just kidding. Jokes aside, I agree for the most part even though your post seems to lean one sided.

The thing of it is, there are posts just like yours in just about all of the flame threads by people who say the same thing as you. It's such a shame that this goes on and keeps being rehashed over and over again every day. Be kinda like arguing with your neighbor every day because his dog takes a dump in your yard. It would get old, grow fungus and hairs and smell really bad. Just like bad fanboys :lol: 
March 15, 2006 1:49:35 AM

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And of all stupid intel fanboy, Amdmeltdown is the smartest of them. he knows how to play its game. All he does is to post something against AMD and all the stupid fanboy unite to answer his post. Unless he's posting false information that could mislead some newbies, there is no reason to answer that kind of post. But, just like a cow that **** in the field, here come the flies to eat it..

And sadly I enjoy watching all those low IQ AMD fanboys pilling all over his thread! :lol: 

Likewise 8O

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

8O 8O 8O

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/gaming/8106/

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 15, 2006 1:51:42 AM

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And of all stupid intel fanboy, Amdmeltdown is the smartest of them. he knows how to play its game. All he does is to post something against AMD and all the stupid fanboy unite to answer his post. Unless he's posting false information that could mislead some newbies, there is no reason to answer that kind of post. But, just like a cow that **** in the field, here come the flies to eat it..

And sadly I enjoy watching all those low IQ AMD fanboys pilling all over his thread! :lol: 

Likewise 8O

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

8O 8O 8O

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/gaming/8106/

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

I rest my case 8)
March 15, 2006 1:56:24 AM

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And of all stupid intel fanboy, Amdmeltdown is the smartest of them. he knows how to play its game. All he does is to post something against AMD and all the stupid fanboy unite to answer his post. Unless he's posting false information that could mislead some newbies, there is no reason to answer that kind of post. But, just like a cow that **** in the field, here come the flies to eat it..

And sadly I enjoy watching all those low IQ AMD fanboys pilling all over his thread! :lol: 

Likewise 8O

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

8O 8O 8O

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/gaming/8106/

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

I rest my case 8)

But the defense hasn't brought up all its evidence:

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts/generic/78ae/

Now the jury can decide :) .

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 15, 2006 1:59:03 AM

oh yeah, I already knew I was a member of the:

Seriously
Trivial
Fanboys
Union
March 15, 2006 2:02:58 AM

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oh yeah, I already knew I was a member of the:

Seriously
Trivial
Fanboys
Union


lol that's pretty good...but I was referring to "Sanity That Forgot U" ;) 

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 15, 2006 2:21:46 AM

OP, do you have some sort of serious ADD? I ask this because your topic started in one location, and traveled ENTIRELY to a different location. It was horribly hard to follow. I specifically enjoyed this statement:

"But I should say, they seems less stupid. Less stupid do not mean not stupid thou.."

I must be horribly stupid, because I did not follow that statement one bit!

Going by your post count, which is high, I see that you have frequently spent time on these boards. I am probably right to assume that you spend a lot of time in other message boards as well. Thusly, you should have learned this lesson by now - There are fanboys everywhere! There are PS2 fanboys, and XBOX fanboys. Some people hate Honda Civics with a passion. They consider them ricer vehicles, stupid teenage cars, etc. They are complete anti-civic fanboys. Then there are the others that love their Civics, don't "rice them out", love the gas milage, etc. They think that their Civics are the best cars possible. They are the Civic fanboys. There's also the "sex before / after marriage" fanboyism. Some entirely believe in one way, and others entirely believe in the other way. Nobody can talk one or the other out of their decisions. There's the atheism/religious fanboyism. Obviously, none of the mentioned fanboys have anything to do with CPU's. Regardless, there's ALWAYS going to be someone who loves something with a passion, coupled with someone who hates it with a passion but loves something else.

Fanboys will always be around. What you have to do is to be able to change your attitude on how you perceive fanboyism. I do a lot of lurking on this forum, and have noticed a lot of it. But, in my opinion, I kind of like the fanboyism. People will argue tooth and nail about their specific CPU on here. I like it because I can hear the extreme pros and cons of each side of the CPU battle. When people argue, and I read it from an outside perspective, I get to learn quite a lot about the CPUs. Obviously, sometimes people don't post logical and legitimate reasons for their favor towards one company or another. However, you just have to put those posts aside and ignore them.

Am I a fanboy? I don't think so, but I suppose you could disagree with enough reasoning. I own a PS2. I don't own an XBOX. Am I a PS2 fanboy? I don't think so. I've got a GameCube as well. What's my reasoning for not having an XBOX? Because I've owned a PSOne as well, so I just continued my trend onto the PS2. I didn't feel I could justify spending another few hundred dollars on an XBOX, when I already had a system that kept me entertained. Do I not like the XBOX? Of course I do. I enjoy playing Halo at parties. I just don't want to spend the money to buy one. Am I a CPU fanboy? I don't think so. Everything I have owned has been a Pentium, but there's no fanboyism in that. It's just that when I received my laptop as a gift, it had a Pentium. When I received my desktop as part of my scholarship, it had a Pentium. If someone were to show me a good deal on a nice AMD gaming rig that would justify cost : performance, I would certainly give it a good look.

My point is, there are fanboys everywhere, and there are people who you could perceive as fanboys, who really aren't. There are the good arguing posts, and there are the bad. You just have to develop an eye to skim past the worthless topics.

Creating a topic about being mad about fanboys certainly doesn't help the issue. There have already been those kinds of posts on this forum, and this just adds to it. Creating one with horrible spelling and grammar certainly adds fuel to the fire. If you want to explain how you are tired of fanboys and want to create a topic doing so, by all means go ahead, but just protect yourself. You have to prove that you know what you are talking about, by having good grammar and spelling, and good coherent sentences. You have to prove your credibility by gaining peoples' respect. You are not going to get it by calling people "stupid fanboys" and telling people that fanboys "masturbate" to random crap. You have to do it in a justifial, friendly, inviting way. You have over 4,000 posts. You should know that by now, through experience.

Anyway, that is all. I'll hop off my soapbox now and let others chime in.
March 15, 2006 2:29:44 AM

Damn people seem pretty anxious to get up on the soap box and rant lately.
March 15, 2006 2:31:20 AM

Pretty good, but I think Pat is foreign, hence his bad grammar.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 15, 2006 2:31:36 AM

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Creating one with horrible spelling and grammar certainly adds fuel to the fire.


Is it beyond your imagination that English might not be his first language?
March 15, 2006 2:40:14 AM

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Creating one with horrible spelling and grammar certainly adds fuel to the fire.


Is it beyond your imagination that English might not be his first language?

Speaking for the redneck: "If you don't speak Americeen, then you can just geeeet out!"

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
March 15, 2006 2:44:52 AM

sounds more queer, than redneck...
March 15, 2006 2:57:46 AM

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sounds more queer, than redneck...


I guess that depends on your current mindset
March 15, 2006 3:01:45 AM

:wink: :tongue:
March 15, 2006 1:07:06 PM

It's ok. Pat just likes to rant once in a while. He was well overdue for one :wink:

You have to cut him some slack over the spelling/grammer/etc... I believe he's French Canadian, and his english is a helluva lot better than my french :lol: 
March 15, 2006 2:24:03 PM

HOHO, ranting about it will only make it worse.
Also you have no idea about our personal lives. I come here to have fun( video games are mostly boring). And since there are times when i have free time i can spend it posting/learning. There is no need to get offensive towards our lives LOL. What you met up with someone? Great, but don't make too much fuss about it. We all are not plants! Heck i meet up every day. But that still gives me time for posting in the forums.

And insulting us actually puts in a bad light your life rather than ours.
And about the respected site THG was,well i like it better the way it is now.
These forums have paid knowlage for entretainment. Yet you still find useful info if you look carefully. And well,if the site was full of decent people in the past then how come an oldie like you post a very disrespectful and unfounded piece of BS.
Fanboyism? It's good and bad.It's good cause people might learn something after a confruntation,bad because some people flame.
And this forum is very new user friendly and i have yet to see a new user "Help me" topic left with no helpful response.

P.S. And calling us stupid is BS. If you thought before posting you'd have come to the conclusion that only people with superior IQ are addicted to computers. No one is stupid here,they are just obsessed by a certain brand.
March 15, 2006 3:21:03 PM

I do not think Intel will have issues providing Conroe in quantity. It just simply isn't time for the product to hit the channels yet. Same thing with AM2 processors, we are seeing benchmarks but won't see products until later.

Some would say not to release benchmarks on things like Conroe until they're out. However, I must say that I find the benchmarks intriguing and take them at face value. I have a good feeling that independent testing at Conroe's release time won't show a 40% increase as Intel is saying, but I do suspect it will be fairly significant and will best AMD's top offering.
March 15, 2006 5:27:09 PM

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oh yeah, I already knew I was a member of the:

Seriously
Trivial
Fanboys
Union


Funny!

But seriously, does anyone know when Conroe will come out? I have seen a lot of talk about it but no release date. I wonder if they'll time it with AMD's release of AM2. . .
March 15, 2006 5:46:31 PM

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P.S. And calling us stupid is BS. If you thought before posting you'd have come to the conclusion that only people with superior IQ are addicted to computers.


Where the hell do you get that one? I have dealt with A LOT of people with less than superior IQs that are addicted to computers. What, do you think that computers are so special that only the elite such as yourself can understand them enough to really enjoy them? Get over yourself IQ fanboy. :twisted:
March 15, 2006 5:49:30 PM

Not sure man, I believe it's going to be mid-summer. I've been looking and have not seen a release date at all. I think we're all in the dark about that right now. I could be wrong though.

All I know is, I want my Conroe now! :evil: 
March 15, 2006 6:00:48 PM

Sry i meant are addicted and spend time in forums wanting to learn. Anyway,most of the computer geeks have superior IQ.
March 15, 2006 6:01:11 PM

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Not sure man, I believe it's going to be mid-summer. I've been looking and have not seen a release date at all. I think we're all in the dark about that right now. I could be wrong though.

All I know is, I want my Conroe now! :evil: 


While you're at it, LithiumSunset, can you please tell me why I keep pronouncing it "Cornrow" instead of "Conroe"? Is it because I am an AMD fanboy and love mispronouncing new Intel technologies? Or perhaps because I live 6 miles north of Detroit?

I've found myself getting weird looks from other people that follow technology when I talk about it!
March 15, 2006 6:16:12 PM

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"Cornrow"


:lol: 
March 15, 2006 6:35:56 PM

Conroe supposedly releases in July, AM2 supposedly releases in June. Let's leave it at that and see what Tomshardware, Anandtech and Guru3d have to say about them when they are both released. If we want fanboy threads, just bring dvdpiddy in here NOW.
March 15, 2006 6:43:13 PM

A couple of things you can be certain of:

1) Intel is not ready, for one reason or another, whether it be amount of supply, channels, or whatever, to release Conroe yet.
2) The initial benckmarks (and indeed almost all sample benchmarks) were done on high quality silicon that performs at a very high level.
3) Conroe will be Intel's first really good desktop chip in awhile.
4) Conroe will NOT put AMD out of business.
March 15, 2006 6:44:57 PM

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A couple of things you can be certain of:

1) Intel is not ready, for one reason or another, whether it be amount of supply, channels, or whatever, to release Conroe yet.
2) The initial benckmarks (and indeed almost all sample benchmarks) were done on high quality silicon that performs at a very high level.
3) Conroe will be Intel's first really good desktop chip in awhile.
4) Conroe will NOT put AMD out of business.

Whoever wins doesn't matter, because the price wars that will ensue on FINALLY COMPETITIVE PROCESSORS will benifit me, you and everyone greatly.
March 16, 2006 1:40:06 AM

You are absolutely right. I didn't say anything about who wins, nor do I care. I will most likely be buying an Opteron next, mainly because I am not currently interested in a platform change. I do look forward to seeing better pricing and competition, and may decide to pick up a cheap Conroe at some point if I find one.
March 16, 2006 1:43:23 AM

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You are absolutely right. I didn't say anything about who wins, nor do I care. I will most likely be buying an Opteron next, mainly because I am not currently interested in a platform change. I do look forward to seeing better pricing and competition, and may decide to pick up a cheap Conroe at some point if I find one.

I saw some Intel roadmap that looked at P'D pricing to go down to up to 60% when Conroe is released. Holy crap, and I thought my little 3200 was cheap!
March 16, 2006 6:42:09 AM

I blame the moderators for not instantly deleting the amount of sh¡t threads laid down. Sure, moderators arn't expected to live in here 24/7, but damn, they have the moderator title for a reason! To moderate the amount of bullshit in here!

I opened up the forums and found in the first page all these sh¡t threads that are just spam-athons or fanwars:

- WHY o WHY ? ? ? ? ?
- AMD HAS COST TECHNOLOGY ADVANTAGES OVER INTEL
- New AMD lawsuit against intel.........
- BWAHAHAH, AMD NEEDS A CO-PROCESSOR!!!
- AMD prepares for a comeback in 2007
- Forum went to $hit when conroe came out.

and the list is near endless.....

I think bans should be placed on people who continously waffle shit, a perfect example is "Action Man" posting in one of the threads with a single word "*fart*"... Well I have 2 words for Action Man, "POST WHORE!"

To top if off and probably earn myself a banning, the most work I've seen the moderators do lately is bitch and complain about Bullshitters username! :roll:
March 16, 2006 6:51:58 AM

I have one word for you, noob. And two more, shut up!
March 16, 2006 7:34:47 AM

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I have one word for you, noob. And two more, shut up!


Wow, that was witty Mr Action Man... :lol:  What makes you any less of a noob them me? Because you have 600+ posts from being a post whore? Meh, if bashing idiots like you for ruining these forums with wasteful posts makes me a n00b, well so be it.
March 16, 2006 7:55:47 AM

Mr Action Man is my father you noob. What makes me less of a noob? Because I'm not a post whore (what a noob) and I'm not bitching about someone posting "*fart*" in another pointless whiner thread from some noob.
March 16, 2006 8:31:03 AM

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I have one word for you, noob. And two more, shut up!


Wow, that was witty Mr Action Man... :lol:  What makes you any less of a noob them me? Because you have 600+ posts from being a post whore? Meh, if bashing idiots like you for ruining these forums with wasteful posts makes me a n00b, well so be it.
You're attacking at the wrong individuals.
You should be attacking at the first group of people you were talking about earlier.

Plenty more to bash, AM just ended up being the first one on the list.
March 16, 2006 11:25:38 AM

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I blame the moderators for not instantly deleting the amount of sh¡t threads laid down. Sure, moderators arn't expected to live in here 24/7, but damn, they have the moderator title for a reason! To moderate the amount of bullshit in here!

I opened up the forums and found in the first page all these sh¡t threads that are just spam-athons or fanwars:

- WHY o WHY ? ? ? ? ?
- AMD HAS COST TECHNOLOGY ADVANTAGES OVER INTEL
- New AMD lawsuit against intel.........
- BWAHAHAH, AMD NEEDS A CO-PROCESSOR!!!
- AMD prepares for a comeback in 2007
- Forum went to $hit when conroe came out.

and the list is near endless.....

I think bans should be placed on people who continously waffle ****, a perfect example is "Action Man" posting in one of the threads with a single word "*fart*"... Well I have 2 words for Action Man, "POST WHORE!"

To top if off and probably earn myself a banning, the most work I've seen the moderators do lately is bitch and complain about Bullshitters username! :roll:

yeah, I agree, although i like action man. half of the threads on this god damned website are OMG AMD > INTEL OMG or CONROE CONROE WILL PWNZORS2111 I mean seriously kids, shut the hell up and have an intelligent conversation for once
March 16, 2006 12:13:49 PM

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Plenty more to bash, AM just ended up being the first one on the list.


I think the fact that you are looking for people to bash instead of trying to start intelligent discussions says it all.
March 16, 2006 12:53:39 PM

i'll argue about conroe vs AM2 performance

WHEN THEY WILL BE OUT

i'll stay on amd side as long as they have the best performance/cost ratio and up to now, they have it.

IF conroe is not delayed, is at good price and running stable with a good compatibility...

there will be still some months for amd to tweak the cpu performance with actually developped improvements.
and maybe let some month of fame to intel before releasing something stronger according to benchmark performed AFTER the release ( because it could be lower or even higher that expected ).

the goal in technologies is to release after with HIGH marketing telling our product will be faster and cheaper for those ready to wait less than a year . as microsoft has done with the xbox and what sony does with PS3. and that's exactly what amd did with k8 architecture knowing intel announced improvements up to 40% with prescott architecture... LOL

amd was slightly weaker than intel at that moment, k8 didn't have that much improvement over k7 AND they slipped before prescott.
March 16, 2006 12:57:30 PM

Sometimes they can be trusted. 65nm yonah chips were supposed to offer 20 percent performance increase and battery performance, but they did better =D
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