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Turion 64 Ml 37 or Core Duo?

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March 15, 2006 5:42:06 PM

I just ordered a computer from hp
is the l2000 with an turion 64 ml 37, but i was wondering if this is a good choice because the core duos are out now and the turion 64 x2 are about to come out in like a month

Is this a good choice?

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March 15, 2006 5:44:09 PM

I would've opted for the core duo myself but that's me. :wink:
March 15, 2006 5:45:40 PM

I would have waited for the X2 to be released to get a good comparison of both processors. There is also a premium price to be paid for purchasing the duo now.
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March 15, 2006 5:45:40 PM

I suppose it is too late to recall the order?
March 15, 2006 5:46:38 PM

I'm just wondering in terms of performance
thats the fastest processor i could get with that computer but i do not know how it is in terms of performance
March 15, 2006 5:47:18 PM

Well, he's wants a machine now so, Core Duo all the way! :D 
March 15, 2006 5:49:21 PM

thsnks for the help
March 15, 2006 5:51:00 PM

Bought the Lance Armstrong laptop? I do hope you ordered the 12 cell battery.
March 15, 2006 6:06:14 PM

Core Duo. These things get great battery life. I have two HP laptops with Core Duos sitting on my desk. The more powerful one with a 2GHz Core Duo, 1GB of RAM, 17" Widescreen display, 80GB 5400 rpm drive, and 256MB X1600 says it gets 2 and a half hours of battery life from a full charge. Actually doing something figure 2 hours. Still not bad for that bad ass of a setup.
March 15, 2006 6:07:47 PM

is that with the microsoft update for duos?
March 15, 2006 6:17:11 PM

Yeah is the lance armstrong and i did buy the 12 cell battery
but i'm wondering how is the performance of the processor(2.0ghz) against a pentium m at 2ghz or even a core duo
March 15, 2006 6:19:23 PM

If possible cancel or change the order for a Core Duo processor.
Trust me, Turion is a joke.
March 15, 2006 6:23:59 PM

It's much better at applications that take advantage of dual procesors.
Here's a linkie
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=264...
Core Duo ALL THE WAY,you hear me? ALL THE WAY!
God knows when X2 Turion will arrive to "match" its performance better said to make the Turion series less awfull!
March 15, 2006 6:32:46 PM

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If possible cancel or change the order for a Core Duo processor.
Trust me, Turion is a joke.


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It's much better at applications that take advantage of dual procesors.
Here's a linkie
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=264...
Core Duo ALL THE WAY,you hear me? ALL THE WAY!
God knows when X2 Turion will arrive to "match" its performance better said to make the Turion series less awfull!


It's funny when someone is asking for a good opinion, and instead, these two assholes come up with this FUD.

Dude, you're far better with a Turion laptop. You'll be Windows Vista ready from day one, not the same thing I can say for the Core Duo since this shitty processor still uses 32 bit processing.

Judging from this review made by THG, 64 bit windows does better on Turion than anything else:
http://www.mobilityguru.com/2006/02/09/is_64_bit_mobile_computing_more_promise_than_reality/page9.html

Ratilio: You've made the best choice and you won't regret it.
March 15, 2006 6:35:49 PM

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Dude, you're far better with a Turion laptop. You'll be Windows Vista ready from day one, not the same thing I can say for the Core Duo since this shitty processor still uses 32 bit processing.


NOT meant to start a flame war, but windows vista will run on 32-bit :wink:
March 15, 2006 6:37:24 PM

Yeah i think i will cancel the order and just go for a core duo
March 15, 2006 6:38:41 PM

But Does Core duo Support 64-Bit processing? I have'nt Looked into Core-Duo much. so i donno if it can or not. Otherwise if it does'nt. Tutron will do you better for 64-bit applications for the Future.
March 15, 2006 6:46:49 PM

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But Does Core duo Support 64-Bit processing?


Core Duo doesn't support 64 bit computing.
It's wasteless to buy this processor since Intel admitted that they will offer 64 bit with their upcoming merom processors.


If you buy a Core Duo, you're stuck with 32 bit Windows XP.

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NOT meant to start a flame war, but windows vista will run on 32-bit

64 bit variations will be first. :wink:

Turion X2 will see the light of day in May of this year. It will support dual channel DDR2 and its TDP would be 25-30W. All this coupled with enhanced 64-bit cappabilities.
March 15, 2006 6:51:35 PM

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Yeah i think i will cancel the order and just go for a core duo


There ya go man, good call. That's the best processor out right now and don't worry about the whole 64 bit thing. Yeah, it's been around for a few years and it's just now starting to somewhat take off. You'll be fine with a core duo processor. No sense in buying a 64 bit processor right now. There's just nothing out there to run on it.

Again, Core duo all the way! :wink:
March 15, 2006 6:55:07 PM

Oh oh aren't we picky!
AMD turion is a pile o' trash consuming a lot for less performance. And well we are talking about Dual Core. That's the future. 64 bit will be a must no earlier than 2008. Vista will be on 32 bit too.
64 is a cheap pretext coming from an AMD fandroid.
Believe me, 64 bit is just an unused extension for now and it will remain that way. A Core Duo has at least a 2 year period with no 64 bit need problems.
And 9 Inch is a very lamish AMD fanboy. It is him who said that AM2 will see a 30% improvement over 939 with DDR2 800(and as we all know the improvement is 3-5%). You can imagine that he's trying to get you buying this. In fact i'm not surprised if he's paid for posting by AMD.

Go Duo and you won't regret.
Intel leads at this segment. I'd have advised on going AMD if you wanted a desktop but here, in the mobile world Intel leads with a much better performance efficient chip that is now dual core!
March 15, 2006 6:59:35 PM

Thanks for all your opinions you are all helpful
March 15, 2006 7:02:49 PM

You're welcome. Always eager to give the BEST of advices.
Go Duo and be happy. Dual CPU>Single so it's worth canceling the Turion order.
March 15, 2006 7:03:32 PM

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And 9 Inch is a very lamish AMD fanboy. It is him who said that AM2 will see a 30% improvement over 939 with DDR2 800(and as we all know the improvement is 3-5%).


Here's the @sshole posting sh!t again.

Where in my statements did I ever said that 30% improvement on socket AM2 will be possible by just shifting to DDR2?

10% is still achievable with DDR2 on socket AM2. Once the real thing sees the light of day, then we all can judge AM2 performace with available reviews.

Keep trying harder fanboy. :wink:
March 15, 2006 7:04:04 PM

See Even though there was some Flaming and Fanboying. We had some Intelligent Points and Counterpoints. Ok If you feel like Core Duo is a Good way to go then i'm all for it. Since we all replace our Processers every year There might be completely different Laptop Platform and Playingfield by the time your throwing your Core Duo in the Salvation Army Bin.
March 15, 2006 7:08:34 PM

Yep you said a 30% improvement of AM2(i mentioned with DDR2 800 cause you mentioned that too). As it is now a fully functional AM2 chip has a 3-5% performance per clock lead with DDR2 800.
And stop insulting fanboy. I understand that you lack control over yourself but try harder not to look like a flammin' good for nothing.
March 15, 2006 7:08:55 PM

LOL

Kinda makes ya feel like being a pile of cow dung in the middle of a field fighting off flies doesn't it? LOL (not being negative, just being funny) :mrgreen:
March 15, 2006 7:09:32 PM

I would wait until the turion x2 is released to get a good comparison.
March 15, 2006 7:12:01 PM

When will that arrive?
[fanboyism]And anyway,hopes are low,it's a Turion for God's sake! [/fanboyism]
I doubt it will beat the Duo,in fact i doubt it will match its performance though looking forward to hearing from this one.
March 15, 2006 7:17:53 PM

I concur. 64 bit is a bit ahead of its time.
If 64 bit would have been vital right now you might have seen it implemented in Intel chips too.
March 15, 2006 7:40:37 PM

Vista has both 32 and 64 bit flavors. I have both of them running in dual boot. 8)

64-bit isn't going to matter for at least another 2 years so don't say, "Oh it doesn't have 64-bit so it sucks." We've had 64-bit ability for what, three years now? Yeah theres so many 64-bit apps out there now....
Lets see....XP Pro x64.....Server 03 x64....oh yeah and Far Cry. Now of course the 64-bit versions of XP and Vista support 32-bit apps so theres no problem in using them. But the point is that 64-bit is still not a necessity and won't be still for a good while.

I love AMD. The Turion is not a piece of crap either.

Its not quite as good as the Pentium M in terms of power consumption but its not far off. But the Core Duo is one hell of a processor. A 2GHz Core Duo is at least as good as an Athlon X2 3800+. Hell look at some of the tests where people OCed Pentium Ms to 2.5GHz on a desktop platform. They outdid the Athlon64 4000+.

I say get the Core Duo. You won't be disappointed.

Oh and as far as whether the unit has the fix for the power consumption, I'm guessing so since this is a shipping unit. And its more like 3-4 hours when not doing anything. I was wrong before. Browsing the net it dropped down to 3 hours. I'd say you'd be good for 2 and a half hours watching a DVD.
March 15, 2006 8:09:24 PM

Go with Core Duo. Most likely the best choice till Merom comes out.

Turion is good. Yet its chipsets are not as good as Centrino platform (That is why AMD is working on Yamato platform). Plus the 64bit computing is meaningless for mobile world in the near future. Even current A64 motherboards does not support that much ram. Plus Vista will have both 32bit/64bit versions.

As for Turion X2, don't put a big expectation on it. Low voltage (1.075-1.125v) means not so good performance and high cost (to AMD at least). No such indepdent power management for each core as Core-duo either. Here is a preview of it:
Turion X2 benchmark preview

Note the 523 score for Turion X2 2.0G is via a very optimistic linear interpolation
March 15, 2006 8:16:45 PM

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Yeah i think i will cancel the order and just go for a core duo


I'm glad you have seen through the fanboy posts. Good decision!

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March 15, 2006 8:51:38 PM

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Yep you said a 30% improvement of AM2(i mentioned with DDR2 800 cause you mentioned that too). As it is now a fully functional AM2 chip has a 3-5% performance per clock lead with DDR2 800.
And stop insulting fanboy. I understand that you lack control over yourself but try harder not to look like a flammin' good for nothing.


OK. This is what I've said:
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AM2 looks to be a promissing chip.

DDR2-800 will give these CPU's a 10% improvement in performance. Let's not forget about the new SOI process which AMD and IBM stated that it will increases transistor performance up to 20% on 90nm and 40% on 65nm. With all these improvements (and who knows what other tweaks), AM2 will boost a total of 30% improvement which will rival Intel's Conroe "supposed" 20% advantage over current AMD processors


...And here's the link:
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardware/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=178002&highlight=

Once again, you prove your self to be an @sshole. 8)


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I concur. 64 bit is a bit ahead of its time.
If 64 bit would have been vital right now you might have seen it implemented in Intel chips too.

It's easy to say that when the competition lacks these kind of features. 8)
March 15, 2006 9:14:38 PM

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When will that arrive?
[fanboyism]And anyway,hopes are low,it's a Turion for God's sake! [/fanboyism]
I doubt it will beat the Duo,in fact i doubt it will match its performance though looking forward to hearing from this one.


Comparing similiar processors from each manufacturer isnt fanboyism its common sense!
March 15, 2006 9:18:17 PM

didnt read all the posts but intel pwns in laptops i dunno about turion x2 but the intel laptop chips are better than the amd laptop chips, this si if your laptop will be for work purposes
March 16, 2006 10:46:23 AM

Hey 9-Inch, so overall 30% AM2 improvement. That's what you said.
Once again you proved that you're an AMD twat AND a flammin' good for nothing. And you should learn to read. I didn't state that you mentioned that the reason for 30% is mainly from DDR2 800mhz.
Keep flamming. I don't bash people that already have been bashed by god(pretty bad too). Hey earth to kid,AM2+DDR2 800 will bring 3-5% improvement over 939 DDR so were is the 30% you were talking about?
Why ain't i seeing major increases in performance. Well because you are spouting nonsense in every post.

Ignorance is bliss,not for me,but for all the people who have to put up with you and your stupidity.

You can spam wherever you want. People are smart enough NOT to listen to your obvious BS.
March 16, 2006 11:01:00 AM

Err... you said that everywhere :roll:
March 16, 2006 11:37:28 AM

Comparion of 2 AMD Turions, both with all identical specs.... except power usage:

Turion ML-37, 35W, 2.0 GHz, 1 MB

Turion MT-37, 25W, 2.0 GHz, 1 MB

The MT-37 can extend battery life by 25% - 40% (the heavier the load the more it extends battery life) when compared to the Turion ML-37
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