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Anonymous
June 3, 2005 5:05:11 AM

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Never seen this before...

I filed a flight plan and got permission to taxi to the runway. As I'm
taxiing, I see planes heading towards the runway I will soon depart
from. The first one is about to land, but then does a go-around. First
time I've ever seen an AI plane do a go-around. Then the next plane
does same. Then the next. Thought this was a might unusual. Then, as
I get close to the end of my taxi, with the "Show Progressive Taxi" pink
line guiding the way, I notice said line, rather than stopping at the
limit line, extends all the way onto the runway, even though I was not
cleared to land. I stop at the limit anyway and contact Tower, which
says I'm already cleared for takeoff. Meanwhile planes are going around
like crazy.

So it seems that since I started taxiing, I had priority on the runway
and all those planes were going around for me, even when I was just
leaving the hangar. I've never seen ATC do this before. Has anyone else??



John

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June 3, 2005 5:05:12 AM

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:| mm nup.
Not with me... weird...

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June 3, 2005 5:05:13 AM

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I once had a situaton where I was following a large jet to the end of
taxiway in preparation for takeoff, when it stopped in front of me at the
yellow line. No aircraft were landing, and none were in front of him. I
had no idea why he didn't move onto the runway.

He subsequently disappeared as AI aircraft do after a while, so I checked
the tower ATC and noticed there was no prompt for me to request takeoff
clearance. Being the adveturous soul that I am, I taxied my 737 onto the
active and noticed I was on a section marked with forward arrows. I still
didn't get the prompt until I reached the actual threshold of the runway at
which time it appeared on the screen and I requested clearance, which I
received. (I received clearance to take off AFTER I had taken my place on
the active). Sooooo, I would conclude that in view of the fact we are using
a brilliant program, the ATC can be wonky at times. I've learned to live
with it and consider each glitch just another adventure and hope that it
doesn't happen IRL.

Arthur

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Anonymous
June 3, 2005 5:05:14 AM

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"Arthur" <alspectorz@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>I once had a situaton where I was following a large jet to the end of
>taxiway in preparation for takeoff, when it stopped in front of me at the
>yellow line. No aircraft were landing, and none were in front of him. I
>had no idea why he didn't move onto the runway.
>
> He subsequently disappeared as AI aircraft do after a while, so I checked
> the tower ATC and noticed there was no prompt for me to request takeoff
> clearance. Being the adveturous soul that I am, I taxied my 737 onto the
> active and noticed I was on a section marked with forward arrows. I still
> didn't get the prompt until I reached the actual threshold of the runway
> at which time it appeared on the screen and I requested clearance, which I
> received. (I received clearance to take off AFTER I had taken my place on
> the active). Sooooo, I would conclude that in view of the fact we are
> using a brilliant program, the ATC can be wonky at times. I've learned to
> live with it and consider each glitch just another adventure and hope that
> it doesn't happen IRL.
>
> Arthur

Actually Arthur,

Vis a vis real life, the program got it right.

Runway surfaces marked with yellow chevrons are not usable for taxi, takeoff
or landing. So the program was correct and you were not at the proper take
off point until you had moved beyond the displaced threshold.

FWIW...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ
June 3, 2005 12:30:04 PM

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OK Jay, The program got it right......but the AI jet stopped at the yellow
line blocking my way...didn't get it right.

I retract my statement that it was a glitch by FS9, although I will stand by
my opinion the ATC can be wonky at times....and so can I....and 'The Man
Behind the Curtain'.....and most of the world leaders.....and movie
stars.....and.....well, the list goes on and on : )

Thanks for your info.

Arthur

"Jay Beckman" <jnsbeckman@cox.net> wrote in message
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> "Arthur" <alspectorz@rogers.com> wrote in message
> news:Ueydncsh6LxsVwLfRVn-uQ@rogers.com...
>>I once had a situaton where I was following a large jet to the end of
>>taxiway in preparation for takeoff, when it stopped in front of me at the
>>yellow line. No aircraft were landing, and none were in front of him. I
>>had no idea why he didn't move onto the runway.
>>
>> He subsequently disappeared as AI aircraft do after a while, so I checked
>> the tower ATC and noticed there was no prompt for me to request takeoff
>> clearance. Being the adveturous soul that I am, I taxied my 737 onto the
>> active and noticed I was on a section marked with forward arrows. I
>> still didn't get the prompt until I reached the actual threshold of the
>> runway at which time it appeared on the screen and I requested clearance,
>> which I received. (I received clearance to take off AFTER I had taken my
>> place on the active). Sooooo, I would conclude that in view of the fact
>> we are using a brilliant program, the ATC can be wonky at times. I've
>> learned to live with it and consider each glitch just another adventure
>> and hope that it doesn't happen IRL.
>>
>> Arthur
>
> Actually Arthur,
>
> Vis a vis real life, the program got it right.
>
> Runway surfaces marked with yellow chevrons are not usable for taxi,
> takeoff or landing. So the program was correct and you were not at the
> proper take off point until you had moved beyond the displaced threshold.
>
> FWIW...
>
> Jay Beckman
> PP-ASEL
> Chandler, AZ
>
Anonymous
June 3, 2005 3:05:20 PM

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I recently had the exact opposite. I was taxying in my Spitfire, as you do,
and approaching the main runway on some airfield (no idea where, I was
quilling) and ATC, (which I must have switched on accidentally because I
hate hearing other people talking when I am in charge of an aircraft)
suddenly said 'Supermarine hold, MD 838 landing' I looked left and by golly
there was this great piece of iron coming in with all landing lights
blazing. If I had not stopped I could have been pretend killed. That's what
I call almost as real as it gets...true

Cheers
Quilljar


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Anonymous
June 3, 2005 9:03:02 PM

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Arthur wrote:
> I once had a situaton where I was following a large jet to the end of
> taxiway in preparation for takeoff, when it stopped in front of me at the
> yellow line. No aircraft were landing, and none were in front of him. I
> had no idea why he didn't move onto the runway.
>
> He subsequently disappeared as AI aircraft do after a while, so I checked
> the tower ATC and noticed there was no prompt for me to request takeoff
> clearance. Being the adveturous soul that I am, I taxied my 737 onto the
> active and noticed I was on a section marked with forward arrows. I still
> didn't get the prompt until I reached the actual threshold of the runway at
> which time it appeared on the screen and I requested clearance, which I
> received. (I received clearance to take off AFTER I had taken my place on
> the active). Sooooo, I would conclude that in view of the fact we are using
> a brilliant program, the ATC can be wonky at times. I've learned to live
> with it and consider each glitch just another adventure and hope that it
> doesn't happen IRL.

Actually this exact same thing happened to me recently too. When I
advanced to the runway, I expected to get some sort of message that I
was taking off without clearance, but instead I got my clearance and
good wishes from ATC.



John

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Anonymous
June 3, 2005 9:03:57 PM

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Jay Beckman wrote:

> Actually Arthur,
>
> Vis a vis real life, the program got it right.
>
> Runway surfaces marked with yellow chevrons are not usable for taxi, takeoff
> or landing. So the program was correct and you were not at the proper take
> off point until you had moved beyond the displaced threshold.

However, in my case at least, that's where the Progressive Taxi told me
to taxi...



John

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Anonymous
June 3, 2005 9:06:02 PM

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Arthur wrote:
> OK Jay, The program got it right......but the AI jet stopped at the yellow
> line blocking my way...didn't get it right.
>
> I retract my statement that it was a glitch by FS9, although I will stand by
> my opinion the ATC can be wonky at times....and so can I....and 'The Man
> Behind the Curtain'

You know, I was considering changing my name to "The Real Deep Throat."
Good thing I didn't do that!



John

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Anonymous
June 4, 2005 8:33:57 AM

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Hi Quilljar,

Well, I hope you shot out his tyres for having the temerity to interrupt
a Spitfire! :-)

Regards,
John ward
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>
>
> I recently had the exact opposite. I was taxying in my Spitfire, as you
> do, and approaching the main runway on some airfield (no idea where, I was
> quilling) and ATC, (which I must have switched on accidentally because I
> hate hearing other people talking when I am in charge of an aircraft)
> suddenly said 'Supermarine hold, MD 838 landing' I looked left and by
> golly there was this great piece of iron coming in with all landing lights
> blazing. If I had not stopped I could have been pretend killed. That's
> what I call almost as real as it gets...true
>
> Cheers
> Quilljar
>
>
> Try 'Living With Technology' magazine
> http://www.livtech.co.uk
>
!