Hey! I'm thinking about embarking on my first adventure into PC building and have been looking around the these forums (amongst others) trying to get some ideas for a potential system. Lots and lots of research. Like the title says, this system is being built very much with cost efficiency in mind. I don't want to pay £100+ pounds for a small kick in performance. But I'm willing to shed out a bit more if the performance kick will be recognisable.
<b>PURPOSES OF SYSTEM</b>
-Lots of ripping and encoding of DVD's and MP3s (using very complex codecs which put the processor under quite a lot of strain - not just your iTunes ripping business).
-Some gaming. However, I'm not an FPS junkie. In fact, the type of games I play aren't reliant on getting 60+ f/s. I'm no fan of first person shooters. I'm more of a AoE 3, Civ 4, RoN and other such strategy/RTS games. Also, this PC is being built very much with a game called Football Manager 2006 in mind; the way it works is almost like a HUGE spreadsheet pushing lots of values into the RAM from the hard drive and processing lots of complex alogrothims (little/no graphics).
-Web design.
<b>PROPOSED SYSTEM (prices in British pounds)</b>
<i><b>Case & PSU</i></b>
Antec Sonata II with 450w Smartpower 2.0 - £81.32: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=93403&_LOC=UK
<i><b>CPU</I></B>
AMD A64 3800 X2 - £211.95: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=256882
<i><b>Motherboard</i></b>
ASUS A8N-E - £67.80: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=298780
<i><b>Memory</i></b>
2 x 1GB Corsair TwinX PC3200PT - £135.01: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=353415
<i><b>Graphics Card</i></b>
256MB Sapphire ATI X800GTO2 (will unlock the extra pipelines) - £127.38: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=280378
<i><b>Hard Drives</i></b>
74GB 10k Western Digital Raptor (for OS and apps) - £109.85: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=90706
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 SATAII (for storage) - £220.77: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=284982
<b><i>Optical Drive</b></i>
LiteOn SHW-1635S-36C DVD±RW - £33.37: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=284982
<b><i>Display</i></b>
19" ViewSonic WideScreen VA1912W - £220.77: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=326963
<b>PRICE</b>
About £1200 (GBP).
<b>QUERIES</b>
1)Is it worth getting an Opty 165 instead of the 3800 X2 (£30-40 more expensive)? With the components I'm getting, would I actually be able to OC enough to make it worth the extra cost? Would the Asus mobo, Antec case and PSU and memory be up to it? If not, the way I see it is that I'll have to spend extra money on a decent mobo (the DFI is another £30), suitable case and PSU (probably about £50+ if you're thinking P180 with a 480w+ TruePower PSU), some overclockable memory (which would probably be another £30/£40 going by OCZ prices), and a cooler (£20-£30) to get a decent overclock, which is really out of my price bracket.
2)I know nothing about DVD drives, and there aren't many reviews on them. Is the one I've listed fast and reliable (considering I'll be doing a lot of DVD/CD ripping and encoding).
3)Is there an Nvidia alternative to the GTO2 that represents better performance for the same cost?
4) I'll be doing lots of DVD watching on my new system. Is the Viewsonic up to this? Would there be any negative consequences from dropping down to the cheaper Acer 19" widescreen (L1916ws) which is about £180.
5) Are the timings of the memory listed above fast enough for what I want (3-3-3-8)? For only an extra £10 I could get the XMS 3200C2P2 version which has timings of 2-3-3-6. Would I actually notice any difference between the two?
Phew! I think thats all! Thanks a lot for your help guys!!
<b>PURPOSES OF SYSTEM</b>
-Lots of ripping and encoding of DVD's and MP3s (using very complex codecs which put the processor under quite a lot of strain - not just your iTunes ripping business).
-Some gaming. However, I'm not an FPS junkie. In fact, the type of games I play aren't reliant on getting 60+ f/s. I'm no fan of first person shooters. I'm more of a AoE 3, Civ 4, RoN and other such strategy/RTS games. Also, this PC is being built very much with a game called Football Manager 2006 in mind; the way it works is almost like a HUGE spreadsheet pushing lots of values into the RAM from the hard drive and processing lots of complex alogrothims (little/no graphics).
-Web design.
<b>PROPOSED SYSTEM (prices in British pounds)</b>
<i><b>Case & PSU</i></b>
Antec Sonata II with 450w Smartpower 2.0 - £81.32: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=93403&_LOC=UK
<i><b>CPU</I></B>
AMD A64 3800 X2 - £211.95: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=256882
<i><b>Motherboard</i></b>
ASUS A8N-E - £67.80: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=298780
<i><b>Memory</i></b>
2 x 1GB Corsair TwinX PC3200PT - £135.01: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=353415
<i><b>Graphics Card</i></b>
256MB Sapphire ATI X800GTO2 (will unlock the extra pipelines) - £127.38: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=280378
<i><b>Hard Drives</i></b>
74GB 10k Western Digital Raptor (for OS and apps) - £109.85: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=90706
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 SATAII (for storage) - £220.77: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=284982
<b><i>Optical Drive</b></i>
LiteOn SHW-1635S-36C DVD±RW - £33.37: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=284982
<b><i>Display</i></b>
19" ViewSonic WideScreen VA1912W - £220.77: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=326963
<b>PRICE</b>
About £1200 (GBP).
<b>QUERIES</b>
1)Is it worth getting an Opty 165 instead of the 3800 X2 (£30-40 more expensive)? With the components I'm getting, would I actually be able to OC enough to make it worth the extra cost? Would the Asus mobo, Antec case and PSU and memory be up to it? If not, the way I see it is that I'll have to spend extra money on a decent mobo (the DFI is another £30), suitable case and PSU (probably about £50+ if you're thinking P180 with a 480w+ TruePower PSU), some overclockable memory (which would probably be another £30/£40 going by OCZ prices), and a cooler (£20-£30) to get a decent overclock, which is really out of my price bracket.
2)I know nothing about DVD drives, and there aren't many reviews on them. Is the one I've listed fast and reliable (considering I'll be doing a lot of DVD/CD ripping and encoding).
3)Is there an Nvidia alternative to the GTO2 that represents better performance for the same cost?
4) I'll be doing lots of DVD watching on my new system. Is the Viewsonic up to this? Would there be any negative consequences from dropping down to the cheaper Acer 19" widescreen (L1916ws) which is about £180.
5) Are the timings of the memory listed above fast enough for what I want (3-3-3-8)? For only an extra £10 I could get the XMS 3200C2P2 version which has timings of 2-3-3-6. Would I actually notice any difference between the two?
Phew! I think thats all! Thanks a lot for your help guys!!