Why Amd can't deliver to the big boys.
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So, lets get this straight. AMD, a manufacturer of Hardware, specifically in this case CPU's is in over its head because the SOFTWARE that google is using is not ready?
Am I missing something? I have read a far more in depth release regarding this and at no point does it say that AMD is developing the software, the developers of the software were referred to several times as a separate entity.
Does anyone have more facts on the actual setup of this deal regarding who is responsible for supplying what?
Am I missing something? I have read a far more in depth release regarding this and at no point does it say that AMD is developing the software, the developers of the software were referred to several times as a separate entity.
Does anyone have more facts on the actual setup of this deal regarding who is responsible for supplying what?
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AMD is a hardware vendor not software.Ding ding ding, we have a winner. AMD does not have hardware bugs (nor does Intel). Both chip makers produce chips that run software. I do not understand exactly why Google is using new software rather than whatever they currently use, but you gotta face it:
We rarely ever deal with CPU hardware bugs, we just deal with benchmarks, temperatures, and overclocking to the max.
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Google got googled....come on amd just doen't have the what the big boys need...People just need to know their limitations.....Said by a Fanboy... Damn I Hate you guys ! AMD has the "big boys" needed... The Opteron is the best CISC server chip available...
Like all have said, this is a software issue, created by the differences in how the AMD setup is used, compared to the older intel, and this is causing problems... Thus, SOFTWARE(google), not Hardware(AMD) problem...
Thank god for another pointless thread...
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AMD is and has always been hindered by the fact that they do not have their own chipset.Hmm...sorry to say, but you're wrong. AMD does infact make chipsets, although they are only in 4 to 8-Way Opteron 64 server boards, but they do make them nonetheless. They are the 8xxx Series.
~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
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Just so. And for the inquirers next trick, An article in which Bill Gates will blame both AMD and Intel for slow boots times, security violations and Office 2007 compatabilities issues because the chips are all flawed, and, as we all know, Microsoft products are secure and flawless.
Amen, the inquirer.net is to technology as the inquirer magazine is to hollywood (inquirer magazine being the tabloid, not the website
).I expect anytime now for them to report green aliens beamed up an AMD implanter and slowed down the Fab 36 ramp. Of course, they will likely quote a "reliable source", or "someone overhear Hector say....", or something like that.
The magazine is spelled with an E as Enquirer
.This just in: Midgets raid Intel's Fab's with Dustbunnies and destroy all their yields
.~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
As much as I love AMD, this does point out the fact that AMD has a sadly low production capacity. Even if they had the marketing, products and prices to take hold of all aspects of the markets from Intel, they would simply not be able to mass produce the chips necessary. However, this article is retarded. Anybody who thinks that AMD chips have "bugs" in software is a moron. Which chip do you think Microsoft uses to compile its software?
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Not for long.What do you mean "not for long"? AMD doesn't even have the necessary factories in construction that it really needs....
and, this is still under the circumstances AMD has good marketing. The fact is, AMD has crap for marketing. Half of the people on your city street have never heard of AMD all they know is "intel inside" on the Dell commercials..
How do you know that Microsoft uses AMD instead of Intel. You guessing or you know something. All I hear is that AMD is good for gaming and Intel is good at office programs. :roll: I have many friends working at Microsoft and they are using the Intel Dual core and the Pentium D processor. Most of their staff are using the Centrino laptop. You know, battery life.
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How do you know that Microsoft uses AMD instead of Intel. You guessing or you know something. All I hear is that AMD is good for gaming and Intel is good at office programs. :roll: I have many friends working at Microsoft and they are using the Intel Dual core and the Pentium D processor. Most of their staff are using the Centrino laptop. You know, battery life.AMD is good at gaming and Intel is good for office programs, but that doesn't mean that can't compete in each other's turf. I know Micorosft uses primarily Intel products, but I think you'd be suprised at how open Microsoft is about changing partners. They have worked with AMD to provide a lot of different fixes and solutions, really suprising when you consider the Wintel alliance. I can't find any links to the compiler thing, I'll admit I can't back up with hard evidence so you can say Intel compiles although we'll never know for sure lol. What I can confirm is that Microsoft isn't going to snuff out AMD like Intel will when it comes to software.
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AMD has a sadly low production capacity. Did you know that Amd increased thier chips sales by 50% last year, and that was before thier new plant was even on line?
Where did you get the notion that Intel was better at office? Aside from the obvious that office is not all that taxing, most office apps are highly IPC related, so Amd is the clear winner (unless you use only bapco benchmarks in your office)
To confirm who is better at compiling, just read Spitfire's sticky. It is very informative, and very unbiased.
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You are an AMD idiot!And you're a Nothing idiot! Because even Intel isn't as stupid as you!
!And in case you're wondering idiot, due to the larger pipeline, Intel sucks @ office apps vs. an Athlon 64. Because the pipeline gets flushed alot and having to flush a 31-stage pipeline is horrendous.
~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
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AMD has a sadly low production capacity. Did you know that Amd increased thier chips sales by 50% last year, and that was before thier new plant was even on line?
Where did you get the notion that Intel was better at office? Aside from the obvious that office is not all that taxing, most office apps are highly IPC related, so Amd is the clear winner (unless you use only bapco benchmarks in your office)
To confirm who is better at compiling, just read Spitfire's sticky. It is very informative, and very unbiased.
My thread has more information than Spitfire's, his is too bland.
~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
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AMD has a sadly low production capacity. Did you know that Amd increased thier chips sales by 50% last year, and that was before thier new plant was even on line?
Where did you get the notion that Intel was better at office? Aside from the obvious that office is not all that taxing, most office apps are highly IPC related, so Amd is the clear winner (unless you use only bapco benchmarks in your office)
To confirm who is better at compiling, just read Spitfire's sticky. It is very informative, and very unbiased.
Again, sales do not equal production!
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AMD has a sadly low production capacity. Did you know that Amd increased thier chips sales by 50% last year, and that was before thier new plant was even on line?
Where did you get the notion that Intel was better at office? Aside from the obvious that office is not all that taxing, most office apps are highly IPC related, so Amd is the clear winner (unless you use only bapco benchmarks in your office)
To confirm who is better at compiling, just read Spitfire's sticky. It is very informative, and very unbiased.
Again, sales do not equal production!
or performance!
~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
This article is crap. It's very poorly written.
What software? What the hell is he talking about? Last I checked Google is the one who writes software, not AMD. So how exactly is that AMD's problem or fault?
I hate the Inquirer. It's nothing more than a blog for a bunch of supposed "insiders." Are more often than not their sources are incorrect.
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The problem is that the software is not all there yet, described by one insider as 'not ready for production' and 'chock full of bugs'. What software? What the hell is he talking about? Last I checked Google is the one who writes software, not AMD. So how exactly is that AMD's problem or fault?
I hate the Inquirer. It's nothing more than a blog for a bunch of supposed "insiders." Are more often than not their sources are incorrect.
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This article is crap. It's very poorly written.The problem is that the software is not all there yet, described by one insider as 'not ready for production' and 'chock full of bugs'.
What software? What the hell is he talking about? Last I checked Google is the one who writes software, not AMD. So how exactly is that AMD's problem or fault?
I hate the Inquirer. It's nothing more than a blog for a bunch of supposed "insiders." Are more often than not their sources are incorrect.
Yeah, screw them. They never know what the hell they are talking about, but love to have everybody link up to their BS
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