Socket 478 Motherboard

[BadTrip]

I am running a P4 Northwood 2.4 on a P.O.S. Mercury Motherboard @ 2.9 ghz. The motherboard is using a sis651fx chipset and i am not really impressed by the performance. Can someone suggest a resonably price socket 478 motherboard for overclocking?

Thank you

 

[raven_87]

My best OC'ing experience with a P4 is my 2.6C northwood.
At first I had a P4PE-X. Wasnt impressed. Then I picked up
an Abit IS7-E2. My highest OC was 13x254....it was some time
ago, but I know I just broke 3300mhz.

Excellent stability, decent features, and the price was quite reasonable.

 

[BadTrip]

Thanks man

 

[swifty_morgan]

The asus p4s800 got my 2.4 celeronD up to 3.6 with automatic overclock, and slightly beyond with a little tinkering.

 

[BadTrip]

I appreciate the input but i am trying to stay away from sis chipsets

 

[chinobis]

A SiS chipset CAN be reliable if it's embedded in a Asus mobo

The best combo from a reliability viewpoint i think is asus & intel chipset.
It has been documented over and over again.

 

[SuperFly03]

I used to have an Asus P4C-800E deluxe... man that thing couldn't overclock my chip for anything. OK OK it probably wasn't the boards fault. I had a first generation P4C 3Ghz... i could barely get 3.15 much less 3.3, grrr. Oh well, as an overall experiance with teh board I was quite pleased. I think the new version is P4P800 or something close to that, just trot over to newegg and break down motherboards by socket and see what ya get.

 

[BadTrip]

thank you for the replies

 

[BadTrip]

I wished i could find on that had PCI-X, that isnt in New Zealand, lol

 

[icbluscrn]

Even though its not an oc'r I am partial to the ecs 865g-m.

Not many oc adjustments but got my 3.0 northwood to 3.45 and my 2.6 to 2.99 and my 2.4 to 2.8 all with stock hsf and for $40 its a sweet deal

Also have an asus p4c800-e that should oc very well but maybe to many adjustments for me.
I am looking for one thats in my sig as well but the cheapest one has been $235 on ebay from singapore, on some of uks websites they seem to oc pretty well.

 

[MisfitSELF]

I own a ASUS P4P800 Deluxe and I highly recommend it for a socket 478. Installed on it, I have a P4C 2.8MHz overclocked to 3.4MHz (14X243MHz) using a Zalman 92mm copper HSF. My CPU temps at around 37-40C. I'm running with about 1.55 to 1.6 volts though CPU-Z consistantly shows about 0.03ish less. The system gets a bit unstable at around 44C and I found that I had to bring the voltage DOWN to fix it. Oh I guess I should mention that I had the chip up to nearly 1.8Volts and 50C and it would post and load XP at 3.5GHz but would reboot or hang on occasion.

To get this system 100% stable in PRIME95, I had to "underclock" my cheap Corsair memory 5:4 by selecting the "320MHz" or such for the memory timing (which gives me ~194MHz rather than 200MHz for PC3200). By 100% stable I mean, I've ran it for about one week at ~16hours/day with the current settings with no errors.

The only thing I wish this board could do is let me select the memory speed directly rather than using multiples like 1:1, 5:4 etc. Or at least give me a multiplier in between 1:1 and 5:4....

 

[Scougs]

I have a 2.8GHz Northwood C at 3.64GHz 1.55 vCore on an MSI 865PE Neo2 Plantnum Edition. FSB 260MHz and memory 208MHz. I really like my motherboard. It has gigabit and SATA but no raid controller or firewire. I actually got the system to post at 3.85GHz with vCore around 1.625 but I didn't want to overvolt anymore.

 

[Amusement]

I agree that P4P800 deluxe is a great 478 over drive board. ASUS provides software for "on the fly" over clocking while operating windows.

The top end speed is about 3.7 ghz with a 478 slapped on a P4P800 deluxe board. This was acheived with a 3.4 prescott. Lets just say that without a Artic Cooler 4 Freezer this couldn't be done reliably.

Steping back from a moment...using a 2.4 ghz 478 with a P4P800 would get you (at minimum) 3.2 ghz. You should use a large heat sink and fan combo to cool that Intel CPU down.

 

[J]

I've had 2 478 MBs, both ASUS: P4P800-E Deluxe & P4C800-E Deluxe.
Liked them both. seemed to overclock about the same. Had 3 different chips in them at various times. all on zalman 7000 or 7700 air coolers at 1.6 volts.
Had a P4C 2.8 OC @ 3.2 - I think this was done on the P4P board
Had a P4C 3.2 OC @ 3.6 - I think this was done on both boards
Had a P4C 3.2 OC @ 3.8 - I think this may have only been done on the P4C800 board, can't remember.

I did all of my OC'in with Corsair C2 or XLPT memory. The 3.8GHz was very stable for gaming, never game me any trouble or crashes. I never ran Prime95 on it. the XLPT memory was running at 237x16. timings at 2.5-3-3-6.

They still sell the P4P800-E Deluxe, but not the P4C800-E Deluxe

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131492

 

[MisfitSELF]

Scougs, that's really sweet. How stable is it at that speed? Have you run Prime95 torture test or anything? I had my memory up to 225Mhz but it started giving me minor errors in Prime95.

Oh to to get us back on tread...the P4P800 Deluxe also has on board RAID controls for both IDE and S-ATA (onboard Via and Intel controllers, respectively). The S-ATA only supports Raid 0 but the Via (P-ATA) supports 0, 1, and one other that I can't remember. In addition it has onboard audio with rear and front panel connections, 8ish USB's, firewire, & Lan.

 

[J]

edited above post

 

[Scougs]

Oh, I forgot to mention that at 3.85GHz it wasn't anwhere close to stable. I'm not sure if it would ever be stable at that speed without some exotic form of cooling and a big overvolt. I want the computer to last me a while so I don't want to drive it into the ground. I keep it at 3.64GHz because it only needs a 0.025v boost in voltage to have no errors in Prime95. It'll actually do 3.5GHz (14x250) at stock voltage.

2GB of DDR 500 sure would be nice.

 

[icbluscrn]

for 533 fsb bus p4's 478 and pci e try the MSI 915GM Speedster
even for ddr2 , but no 800mhz fsb
sckt478/pcie

 

[Scougs]

The motherboard that you are talking about with the 915 chipset is only compatible with the Pentium M, that is why it does not support 800MHz fsb.

 

[rushfan]

I built my wife a system using a Celeron D 345 and an ASUS P4P800-SE and bumped the CPU from 3.06 GHz to 3.9 GHz without any fuss at all. That's using an Intel HSF that I picked up for $5.

This is my first ASUS/Intel combo and I'm impressed with the stability. Seems to me that you can't go wrong with that combination.

 

[Datman]

Albatron PX865PEC Pro(V2.0) FSB 1000+

I got one, it runs very well.

http://www.albatron.com.tw/english/it/mb/specification.asp?pro_id=197

 

[Tattysnuc]

My favourite board EVER was my DFI Lanparty 875B Pro. if you are into overclocking on air or water, this board has everything. Including Memtest X86 built into the bios.

My second choice is Abits' IC7 Max 3. It comes hightly recommended to use with Asetek's vapochill units, so you know its a high quality build pc.

My final recommendation would be the Asus P4C800. A good, solid board. No probs.

If you want PCI-e though, these are all redundant. Sorry!

 

[Tattysnuc]

As for overclocks used to have a 3.2Ghz EE which I managed to get up to 4Ghz on the IC7 Max 3 in my vapo unit. I only got up to 3.6 on the DFI. That was on air though....

That was the most expensive 400Mhz in my life!

Why oh why did I sell that kit on. Doh!!!!!!!

 

[Crashman]

Nah, the P4C800-E Deluxe is defective, that's why most of them won't overclock worth a crap. It's caused by the voltage drooping under load, do a search on "droop mod"

 

[SuperFly03]

OH NOW I FIND THIS OUT. lol

After 18 months of frustration with that board, grrr. Acctually i tried a half dozen times, got nowwhere and gave up. Hey that P4 still holds it own today so its hard to complain but makes me wonder what that first iteration of Northwoods can do