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Jeffreyg4   03-21-2006 at 11:24:58 PM

Ok guys, i have been going threw forums for months now and have finally decided on a computer.

i would like to kno if this computer is a gaming beast and if there is anything i should change to make it better. i will NOT be overclocking at all so i need to pick good stock parts.

LINK --> http://secure.ncix.com/pcbuilder/i [...] ormid=1000

Money is an issue so if there is anyway to decrese the price of this computer i would be open to Sugjestions.

Thank you. Any input will be greatly appreciated.

- Jeff

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Bluefinger   03-21-2006 at 11:32:29 PM
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That is a sweet pc.... to cheapen the setup, go for the 4200+ X2 instead of the 4400+, that should cut the price a lot. Ummm... the soundcard is amazing stuff, but if you really want to make things cheaper, i would recommend you an Audigy 4, not as good, but good enough to sweeten the gaming experience and anything to do with audio. Apart from that... go for it!

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conroe   03-22-2006 at 01:23:21 AM
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Looks realy good, but not the price. That's un-American.

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a1ien   03-22-2006 at 01:51:38 AM
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Get some better RAM. I suggest Corsair or OCZ or Mushkin with some tighter timings, other than that everything looks great.

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conroe   03-22-2006 at 02:01:18 AM
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Kingston is better than Corsiar value. But CL2 is much better and with out overclocking you need the advantage.

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gahleon   03-22-2006 at 02:06:59 AM
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go with the opteron 165 rather than the x2. Better performance and better overclock later if you decide. I would also go with x1900xt. I mean it is a fantastic card that hasn't been completely tromped by nividia yet. It is way good to me. Plus it is like 200 bucks cheaper! Anyhow, other than that it looks good.

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gahleon   03-22-2006 at 02:08:26 AM
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bluefinger always remember bottlenecks. You want to go with the fast x-fi. The card is what needs the change as well as the ram.

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conroe   03-22-2006 at 02:08:27 AM
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go with the opteron 165 rather than the x2. Better performance and better overclock later if you decide. I would also go with x1900xt. I mean it is a fantastic card that hasn't been completely tromped by nividia yet. It is way good to me. Plus it is like 200 bucks cheaper! Anyhow, other than that it looks good.


A 165 will not out perform a 4400+. He said no overclocking. :roll:

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gahleon   03-22-2006 at 02:08:53 AM
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oh ok 170 which is still cheaper

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conroe   03-22-2006 at 02:14:07 AM
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Or a FX60? I believe the 4400+ will work great with that 7900gtx. You need a hi-res monitor for it, realy.

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angry_ducky   03-22-2006 at 02:19:26 AM
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Or a FX60? I believe the 4400+ will work great with a 7800gtx. You need a hi-res monitor for it, realy.



I believe the build had a 7900GTX.

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Jeffreyg4   03-22-2006 at 02:26:10 AM
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there is no need to change the RAM, i will not be overclocking at all. so no need for fast ram. now as for the Motherboard, is this a good choice? if you can find a better one one www.ncix.com please give me a link so i can look into it. please keep it around the same price level ($120 canadian) and i would prefer non SLI.

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conroe   03-22-2006 at 02:29:26 AM
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The best AMD boards are DFI, but are very overclocker friendly. There are alot of boards that will give the same performance, some cheaper.

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gahleon   03-22-2006 at 02:32:52 AM
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I'm not the greatest with all the configs and way too lazy to play with DFI my a8n sli prem is perfect for me. Though DFI sounds coo

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conroe   03-22-2006 at 02:45:08 AM
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CL2 memory will give better performance--without overclocking. K8 loves low-latency RAM.

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a1ien   03-22-2006 at 03:06:05 AM
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there is no need to change the RAM, i will not be overclocking at all. so no need for fast ram. now as for the Motherboard, is this a good choice? if you can find a better one one www.ncix.com please give me a link so i can look into it. please keep it around the same price level ($120 canadian) and i would prefer non SLI.



I thought you wanted it to be a...

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gaming beast



If so, go with some better RAM with tighter timings. You can find some for just as cheap or perhaps cheaper than that 211 dollars you are spending on the Value-RAM.

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Jeffreyg4   03-22-2006 at 04:02:08 AM
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thx for links, if you think that this one is better however, i will stick with it. But i dont really like the colour. but that doesent really matter. now as for RAM since im not overclocking getting CL2 ram would not have ANY impact on games. so theres no reason to spend more money on RAM when i dont really have to. am i correct?

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conroe   03-22-2006 at 04:06:01 AM
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You are wrong. 2-2-2-5 is best. 2-3-2-5 is realy good. 2-3-3-7 is good.

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Jeffreyg4   03-22-2006 at 04:28:25 AM
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...yes, best for... OVERCLOCKING. i will NOT be overclocking so i have no need for the Best and most Expensive RAM.

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steveosazninvazn   03-22-2006 at 04:32:09 AM
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It looks good, but for now, just about all games only utilize one core, so unless your going to do some multitasking, you could save some cash by just buying a single core AMD processor.

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a1ien   03-22-2006 at 05:24:25 AM
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You are wrong. 2-2-2-5 is best. 2-3-2-5 is realy good. 2-3-3-7 is good.



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...yes, best for... OVERCLOCKING. i will NOT be overclocking so i have no need for the Best and most Expensive RAM.



I'm sorry, I didn't see the word OVERCLOCKING anywhere in Conroe's statement... did you put it in there between the lines Conroe? I must be going blind...
The point is 2-2-2-5 are some of the best timings PERIOD. Not just for overclocking. But anyways... if you want to stick to your Value-RAM, go right ahead, even though you can get much better RAM with lower latencies for pretty much the same price. Low latency DDR400 Dual Channel 2GB kits are nearly as expensive as they were a year ago.

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Jeffreyg4   03-22-2006 at 01:02:05 PM
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Patriot Dual Channel PC3200 2GB 2X1GB DDR400 CL2-3-2-5 184PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit

^ that is the best kit i can find on www.ncix.com without costing an Extreme amount of money over the Value ram price, is that good eneugh?

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conroe   03-22-2006 at 02:06:30 PM
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That is as good as a two gig kit gets.

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gahleon   03-22-2006 at 04:05:42 PM
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Yeah my OZC platinum is 2325. It is nice memory.

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