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September 14, 2004 6:35:31 PM

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Does anyone on the newsgroup know how the EDGE network compares with
1xRTT with Verizon Wireless? How is the latency? I know on Verizon's
network, it was about 1/2 second (500ms) to the first hop after doing
a traceroute anywhere.

Also, anyone use a PCMCIA card, as opposed to a data cable on a phone?
Any advantages, besides it being a PCMCIA card? I'm wondering if its
better to buy a phone without a contract, and just upgrade my service
(My Nokia 1100 doesn't seem to be able to be tethered to a laptop.

Any help would be appreciated. I travel between Hartford, CT and
Boston, MA.

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Anonymous
September 15, 2004 7:56:24 PM

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Bob wrote:
> Does anyone on the newsgroup know how the EDGE network compares with
> 1xRTT with Verizon Wireless? How is the latency? I know on Verizon's
> network, it was about 1/2 second (500ms) to the first hop after doing
> a traceroute anywhere.
>
> Also, anyone use a PCMCIA card, as opposed to a data cable on a phone?
> Any advantages, besides it being a PCMCIA card? I'm wondering if its
> better to buy a phone without a contract, and just upgrade my service
> (My Nokia 1100 doesn't seem to be able to be tethered to a laptop.
>
> Any help would be appreciated. I travel between Hartford, CT and
> Boston, MA.

I'll take a shot at it, but I can't tell you much. I'm showing as of
May,2004 that EDGE is available in both places. As far a comparison with
Verision, I can't give you a really good answer. I can tell you that
with EDGE you can see speeds between 128 and 300k. I know here in D/FW
Verison advertises their speed averages between 60 and 80k, but I'm not
sure if that is the same service you are talking about.

As far as the data cable and PCMCIA card, let me tell you how I do it,
not that this is the only way. All my phones are Bluetooth Enabeled so I
don't have to bother with cables. On all my computer I use a D-Link
DBT-120 USB Bluetooth dongle that gives my computer Bluetooth access. I
then have a dialup networking profile setup that connects to the phone
over Bluetoth and starts a GPRS/EDGE connection. This way I can leave my
phone on my belt and do everything from the computer. When I'm in the
car I usually put the phone by a window were it can see out. The nice
thing about Bluetooth is I can have the computer up to 30 feet away from
the phone without disconecting the Internet connection.

I hope this helps.
September 18, 2004 2:08:57 AM

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"R.M" <usenetjunk@usenetjunk.com> ??? news:4148664A.2040108@usenetjunk.com
???...
> Bob wrote:

> I'll take a shot at it, but I can't tell you much. I'm showing as of
> May,2004 that EDGE is available in both places. As far a comparison with
> Verision, I can't give you a really good answer. I can tell you that
> with EDGE you can see speeds between 128 and 300k. I know here in D/FW
> Verison advertises their speed averages between 60 and 80k, but I'm not
> sure if that is the same service you are talking about.
>
> As far as the data cable and PCMCIA card, let me tell you how I do it,
> not that this is the only way. All my phones are Bluetooth Enabeled so I
> don't have to bother with cables. On all my computer I use a D-Link
> DBT-120 USB Bluetooth dongle that gives my computer Bluetooth access. I
> then have a dialup networking profile setup that connects to the phone
> over Bluetoth and starts a GPRS/EDGE connection. This way I can leave my
> phone on my belt and do everything from the computer. When I'm in the
> car I usually put the phone by a window were it can see out. The nice
> thing about Bluetooth is I can have the computer up to 30 feet away from
> the phone without disconecting the Internet connection.
>
> I hope this helps.
>

Hi, which phone are you using ? I am considering to try Cingular's EDGE.
However, it seems that they don't have an EDGE capable phone out there yet.
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Anonymous
September 19, 2004 1:40:41 AM

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Jim wrote:
>>
>
>
> Hi, which phone are you using ? I am considering to try Cingular's EDGE.
> However, it seems that they don't have an EDGE capable phone out there yet.
>
>

Well right now I have two and I'm looking at a third. For GPRS I use the
Nokia 3620, its rock solid when hooked for a computer. For EDGE, I use
the Nokia 6230b, but its not as stable. Note there are two version of
this phone the 6230(900/1800/1900)that will *NOT* work on Cingular and
the Nokia 6230b(850/1800/1900) that will work on Cingular. I'm using a
prototype of the "b" version that I got here at the office, however the
phone has now been released and you can find them many places on the
internet. I'm am also looking at the Nokia 6620, it also has EDGE as
well as 850. From what I've seen its a great phone, but haven't tested
extensively. Just make sure the phone you use is unlocked. If you find
one that is locked you can unlock it for free on many sites on the
Internet.

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Anonymous
September 22, 2004 2:47:35 AM

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In <6333bf79.0409141335.2f3c1d0b@posting.google.com> on 14 Sep 2004 14:35:31
-0700, shmget@msn.com (Bob) wrote:

>Does anyone on the newsgroup know how the EDGE network compares with
>1xRTT with Verizon Wireless?

Downlink speed for EDGE is typically twice as fast as 1xRTT.

>How is the latency? I know on Verizon's
>network, it was about 1/2 second (500ms) to the first hop after doing
>a traceroute anywhere.

Latency is about the same or a bit higher.

>Also, anyone use a PCMCIA card, as opposed to a data cable on a phone?
> Any advantages, besides it being a PCMCIA card? I'm wondering if its
>better to buy a phone without a contract, and just upgrade my service
>(My Nokia 1100 doesn't seem to be able to be tethered to a laptop.

* Handsets (and PC Cards) do not all have the same data performance. In
general, all reasonably recent GPRS/EDGE-capable devices from Ericsson and
Sony Ericsson support Class 8 (4+1) and Class 10 (4+2, max of 5), whereas most
Nokia devices are limited to slower Class 4 (3+1) and Class 6 (3+2, max 4).
Motorola has both Class 4 and Class 8 devices. (The first number is the max
downlink slots, and the number after the "+" is the max uplink slots.) This
can translate into a substantial difference in throughput -- if supported by
the carrier, Class 8 is 33% faster on downlink than Class 4.

* Connections between handsets and "tethered" devices (e.g., notebook
computer, PDA) are typically implemented as a serial port, either real or
virtual, and port speed usually defaults to 115 Kbps. (My own Bluetooth stack
is implemented as a virtual serial port that will go as fast as 921.6 Kbps,
but which runs at only 115.2 Kbps by default.) While 115 Kbps is generally
fast enough for GPRS and CDMA 1X, it can be a bottleneck for EDGE, UMTS, and
CDMA EV-DO. In general, I recommend port speed of 230 Kbps for GPRS and CDMA
1X, 460 Kbps for EDGE, and 920 Kbps for UMTS and CMDA EV-DO.

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