PCI Express bought to market during the era when everyone was crazy all over the 'XP' naming.

We had:-
-Windows XP (and all the programs made for it)
-Athlon XP
-Dell XPS
and all the 'XP' stuff my little brain can't think of right now...

It would've saved people from calling it PCI-X.

Can we rename PCI 1.1 to PCI-3.1 or PCI-DOS . No, but seriously, you make a lot of sense...

The XP stuff was started by Micro$oft, because they wanted to try to end the 'by-year' naming convention of their products (were they already tired of it? Or did they think it would confuse their victims.../consumers even more?).

Since AMD was probably the only chipmaker printing a Windows logo on their CPUs at one time, it would stand to readson they'd use this already established theme...

Add "XP development" to your list (it's basically an open-source methodology ).

PCI Express should be called PCI-Express or PCIe.

PCI-XP is way to close to PCI-X, and the two are very different.
As in, PCI-X does not equal PCIe (PCI Express).

Websites and hardware stores that label the PCIe x16 cards as 'PCI-X' should be avoided for their foolishness, since PCI-X is a totally different slot.

eg: PCI-X:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ImageCI-X_Ethernet.jpg

eg: PCI Express (formerly 3GIO/Arapaho):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express

I know Wusy already knows this btw, as his mainboard has 2 x PCI-X slots.

PS: Most current 'normal' PCI slots are PCI v2.2 or v2.3 btw, yes the 32 bit ones at 33 MHz on most mainboards.

I never really followed the PCI specs: if I remember well, 1.x->2.x was dropping voltage from 5 to 3.3V, but what happened between 2.0->2.1->2.2->2.3? Do you know?

Yes, PCI-X is a 64-bit, 66/133MHz bus using the PCI protocol; it's used by server Ethernet, SCSI and RAID controllers because it can push 4 to 8 times more data through than regular PCI.

Some sites call PCI Express PCI-EX - it means what it means.

Yeah and over a million sites call PCIe / PCI Express incorrectly, by using "PCI-X".

It makes searching for actual PCI-X hardware a right pain the the ass. :x

I suspect that is Wusy's point, as we've spoken about it via MSN at times...

If PCIe was just called 3GIO like 'planned' it would be so much easier, and it would catch on. 3GIO x16 has an OK ring to it, and SLi using 2 x 3GIO x16 slots, etc, etc.

At least one person agrees with me as of now.

I don't think I voted to call it PCI-XP

As PCI-XP contains the string PCI-X, and would make searches just as much a pain in the ass as they are now.

Unless by 'at least one' you mean 4+ ?

I have never looked for PCI-X hardware, but I guess it can be a pain. What you can try though, is look for it as PCI-64, or PCI 64bit, or wide PCI (or any variant) as I've seen it called a few times.

Sorry, I don't think it would help much.

Problem is, as 'MU_Engineer' can testify, (see other threads he started), 'true' PCI-64 isn't PCI-X either, it is like the precursor to PCI-X and differs electronically, and possibly slightly physically aswell.

It was a make-shift extention to PCI, before the standard was ratified. (Like all those X2 and k56flex modems, before v.90 and v.92 were established standards).... and like all the 801.11 'Pre-N' gear coming out. - Does not adher to standards in the name of progress.

.... and yet by not adhering to standards and rushing ahead progress is affected.

...true. It was using PCI 2.0 socket + extension (a bit like ISA 8 -> ISA 16-bit), was clocked 33 MHz like PCI 2.0 but the extra length added an extra 32-bit width (32+32=...?) - I think.

That would make PCI-X incompatible because clocked double, and probably have a different slot layout.

i do not know the details of pci-x but i remember toms had an article about it and pci-e. ever since then i have been correcting people who ask what is the best pci-x gfx card. it is confusing for some that they are different, although as some have pointed out some sites use pci-x instead of pci-e. this could lead some people to do a search for a pci-x gfx card and be able to "buy" one and therefore go on to believe they exist. it could then lead to them coming on here and telling people that they can infact buy pci-x gfx cards.

there for i would like it to be named something as far away from pci-? as possible.

Yeah, like naming it 3GIO, and having x16, x8, x4, x2, x1 slots.
3 = 3rd
G = Generation
IO = I/O (Input / Output)

It also makes searching for (the large number of) existing PCI-X hardware a bitch, as you get hits from idiots calling 'Video Cards' PCI-X when they are PCIe / PCI Express.

If people ask for a 'PCI-X' [cough] video card, they usually mean PCI Express Graphics x16, and it is easy (well, usually) to confirm.

There was a forum recently where a guy actually was after a PCI-X (not PCIe x16) video card too.... much confusion followed. :?

Yeah, Matrox rulz!

coz i think every XP stuff is bad everything but my old athlon XP hahahah

that, or XP programming