X2 4200+ CPU/Case Temperature problems?

Hey everyone. I have a new Aspire X-Plorer case with an AMD 4200+ CPU. The problem is in my 83 degree office (I like it warm here in Phoenix), the Chassis runs ~20 degrees higher than the room temp, and the CPU ranges from 47-57C based on load (57C max load).

I have Arctic Freezer64 CPU Fan (one of the big beefy ones), and three fans - one on the back and top blowing out, and one on the side, sucking in.

First question, is it normal for the chassis to be 20 degrees warmer than the room? As my case is 103 right now, the CPU is 47C/114F. Is that a normal variation?

Should I replace the fans in my case with something beefier? 2 of the 3 fans are Arctic Cool Pro's.

Any help and information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

So for an 83 degree room, the temperatures I'm running aren't abnormal?

Are there any proximity alternatives to standard cooling that would work for me? Would a water system do much better? I like keeping my office ~78-80F... My system sure doesn't like it

Please definitely give me any recommendations that you have

I currently have an Aspire X-Plorer case with the fan configuration mentioned above.

Can I do "better" by simply getting better case fans? AFAIK the CPU fan is fine. Also, is it normal for the CPU to run ~10-14 degrees hotter than the case?

Hmm the beefy one wouldn't fit in my case because it's a mid tower. Note I have 2 video cards as well...

Any other options? I don't see any data showing how much of a temp difference the water systems will make... Is there information anywhere on what works?

Also, what did you do you get your computer working without overheating in AZ?

When you apply the 'goo' between the CPU and the heatsink, you put an ultra thin layer, correct? What's the best method of doing this - using your finger, or something like a credit card? Can you put "too little" on?

I just opened the side of the case and turned on a portable fan which is a mini aeroplane on my desk and the chassis temp is no 90F (down more than 10F), the CPU is still running a bit hot @ idle (44C)...

Also, what's the average temperature variance between the chassis temp and the CPU temp when the CPU is @ idle?

Thanks!

the 'goo' lol that's funny .

Yea, you use a pretty thin layer, I don't make it ULTRA THIN, but I slap a dab on there and use a credit card type object to smoothe it out across the whole thing (other people say other things, this is what I do and it works great) than keep scraping until it's a pretty thin layer and than apply the heatsink.

Your CPU should be able to idle @ 35c-ish, so I am thinking that the heatsink or FAN isn't adequete.

The variancy depends on other components, when I had this thing jampacked with 2 vid cards, hard drives, etc. etc., my CPU Idle and ambient case temp were the same on average, but I have tons of fans and it's about 70f-75f in this room right now, my fans are all on lowest setting since I aint doing anything, and my CPU/MOBO/CHASSIS are about 30c (86f).

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

40C @ full load is not achievable w/ an X2 4200+ and stock cooling.

Unless your case is refridgerated...

Oh. Disregard then.

Oh so one question - what's the average temperature variance between the chassis temp (inside the case) and the actual CPU temp?

Right now, my chassis is sitting @ 32.2C/90F, and my CPU is @ 42C/109.4F. This is idle with the room being 83 degrees, the side of my case off, and my aircraft of a fan blowing on the case.

What's odd is I have the massive beefy arctic cooler CPU fan on my CPU. I shouldn't be having CPU overheat problems...

But I don't know if when your case is running 103F that your CPU SHOULD be 20F+ hotter than the case (even with the fan, etc.)

It will only let me run 1 instance, but with a chassis temp of 90F, my CPU is already 50C... Don't think that's too good... correct?