3GHZ OPTERONS SPOTTED

[9-inch]

Check them out here:
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/news.php?tid=575264

 

[Heyyou27]

3GHz single cores; who cares?

 

[angry_ducky]

super duper!

 

[MadModMike]

3GHz single cores; who cares?

Because you can have 8 Single-Core 3Ghz Opterons, that's why.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[mpjesse]

 

[luminaris]

So now that AMD is sort of pushing the Ghz race a little, does this mean they'll ramp up their marketing too?

Intel had their little blue men. I wonder if AMD will use their little green ....

1. Martians
2. Cards
3. Boogers


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[HYST3R]

LMFAO

 

[Heyyou27]

3GHz single cores; who cares?

Because you can have 8 Single-Core 3Ghz Opterons, that's why.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a timeOr 16 2.8GHz Opterons?

 

[pengwin]

mmmmmm..i want...


anyways

oo

3Ghz

 

[MadModMike]

3GHz single cores; who cares?

Because you can have 8 Single-Core 3Ghz Opterons, that's why.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a timeOr 16 2.8GHz Opterons?

Meh, it's more of a breakthrough than a "buy this", it shows AMD can reach 3GHz if necessary and beyond.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[Grimmy]

What about them ooompla's?

ooompla, ooompla, oompladee dooo, if you are wise, you listen to me..

. o O <(NM!! I can't remember the song.)

 

[HYST3R]

maybe this is my own ignorance but can you enlighten me on something?

its obvious amd can beef up the ghz, so y dont they?

i dont wanna start a fan boy flame on, im being serious.

is there some hardware bottleneck currently? or do they simply not need the extra speed?

obviously the fx-60 is the fastest, but y not make it 3+ghz for the hell of it?

 

[RichPLS]

AMD's current dual cores have trouble overclocking to 3GHz, much less 10 to 20% over 3GHz, which would be needed for manu to release a stable chip at 3GHz...
I have trouble breaking 2.7GHz with my Opteron 175 stock at 2.2GHz.

 

[crizazykid2]

~~~~~~Attention posters!~~~~~~

3GHZ OPTERONS SPOTTED

Turn off the dang caplock!!! Just about every thread's name in this section is capitalized! It doesn't do any good! Turn it off!

 

[HYST3R]

right, but im curious to what is physically stopping it from goin as high as 3ghz.

is it the density, the type of material they use, etc?

basically what im asking is whats the major physical difference between materials that the processor manufactures use?

i understand y the two excel in different areas such as gaming (amd) and highly intensive business apps (intel)

 

[Grimmy]

:roll: . o O (okay okay okay, I got a question)

Why don't AMD (or Intel) just make one Processor, and you decide what clock rate to set it?

I don't want marketing prices for answers...

 

[HYST3R]

that could go either way.

why dont they jsut give you the parts and you put a processor together yourself? same thing.

kids/people with no knowledge would be frying em up like no other. which would cause people to buy another processor (good for manufacturer) or not buy it at all (bad for manufacturer).

they will never give up their pricing ladder! never! its pure profit.

thats like asking hershy's to make a plain candy bar so you can add your own toppings, when they can simply charge you more for a few peanuts, litterally, wtf.

 

[apache_lives]

3ghz, i doubt it can go much further on 90nm, and heat is another thing

woodcrest comes out at 2.93ghz and would eat it 4way minimum, remember DIB is there for it.

who cares?

 

[luminaris]

I think it has to do with the fact that with AMD having the OMC, they simply don't have the headroom to clock much higher. AMDs will overclock but, generally, Intels overclock higher because they have the memory controller on the board instead of the processor.

I also believe it has to do with efficiency. With their current architecture, the higher the clocks, the less efficient they are which applies to any processors in all reality. AMD doesn't want to generate excessive heat and waste as little of energy as possible that of which, they are known to be very efficient.

I'm sure someone will elaborate more on this as, i'm usually on the Intel side of things but, i'm using AMDs now as, they have better architecture.

 

[Grimmy]

Heheh... give me the parts to put together a micro processor.

I don't think there would be any companies, if that was the case, as long as I had a cheap supply of materials. I'd have my own fabrication faculity. I would have the mind of an engineer, and would know the limits of it.

It would be a hell of allot cheaper to do it that way, I could burn up more processors then machines that I built in the past, and not spend anywhere near to what I've spent up today, in just keeping up.

But I don' t think I'm that smart. And I doubt MS would talk to me.

 

[HYST3R]

thanks alot luminaris that was very enlightening. i had speculated about the memory controller being on board but was waiting to hear from someone else.

it makes sense to a point that adding more parts to the core of a cpu could possibly hinder it if not as much as aid it.

 

[HYST3R]

Heheh... give me the parts to put together a micro processor.

I don't think there would be any companies, if that was the case, as long as I had a cheap supply of materials. I'd have my own fabrication faculity. I would have the mind of an engineer, and would know the limits of it.

It would be a hell of allot cheaper to do it that way, I could burn up more processors then machines that I built in the past, and not spend anywhere near to what I've spent up today, in just keeping up.

But I don' t think I'm that smart. And I doubt MS would talk to me.

haha. and to add the idea of an unset clock on a cpu is cool to me, i didnt mean to sound as negative as my post did

 

[MadModMike]

AMD's current dual cores have trouble overclocking to 3GHz, much less 10 to 20% over 3GHz, which would be needed for manu to release a stable chip at 3GHz...
I have trouble breaking 2.7GHz with my Opteron 175 stock at 2.2GHz.

This is for the 2 idiots RichPLS and Apache_Lives:

Overall: AMD FX-57 MemoryExtremeTeam - 4101.98 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=56028

1.4 GHz (Applebred): cpulloverclock - 3031.14MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=40070
1.8 GHz (Applebred): fr@me&Xupyp1 - 2881 Mhz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=73482
1700+ (Toro): Misteroadster - 3227 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=44359
1800+ (Toro): boblemagnifique - 3234.8 MHz http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemag...00/3235MHz.png
2500+ (Barton): NewBeetle - 3578.4MHz - http://resources.vr-zone.com/ocdb/da...tel_or_amd=amd
2600+ (Barton): pietro - 3466.3MHz - http://resources.vr-zone.com/ocdb/da...tel_or_amd=amd
2800+ (Clawhammer): setyotomo & ilyas - 3204.14 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=18206
3000+ (Barton): Memesama - 3613.96MHz - http://resources.vr-zone.com/ocdb/vi...=pjpeg&which=i
3000+ (Venice 754): amazetestlab - 3090.28MHz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=65486
3000+ (Oakville): firefly - 2700.13MHz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=65488
3000+ (NewCastle): Ssilencer - 3276.60 MHz http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/4638/32765gm.gif
3000+ (ClawHammer): fr@me - 3156 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=65931
3000+ (Winchester): easypanic - 3412.61 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=15933
3000+ (Venice): cpulloverclock - 3644.18 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=41857
3200+ (NewCastle): .::Maddog::. & mosin_nagant - 3024MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=22563
3200+ (Manchester): ryba - 3405.67 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=58776
3200+ (Winchester): NewBeetle - 3463 MHz http://cal930.sakura.ne.jp/cgi-bin/c...le/3463MHz.gif
3200+ (Venice): s7e9h3n - 3723.6MHz - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=12
3400+ (ClawHammer): eshbach & Evil Spork - 3320.71 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=12416
3400+ (NewCastle): Jrocket - 3359.59 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=18225
3400+ (Venice): damarble - 2850.66 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=67088
3500+ (Manchester): Willis - 3205.02 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=79721
3500+ (ClawHammer)jdr2001 & Silence - 3521.6 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=49904
3500+ (NewCastle): |RickY| - 3604.0 MHz http://www.teampuss.com/forums/files/3500caa2c_234.jpg
3500+ (Winchester): Boogotop - 3271,70 MHz http://www.vr-zone.com/ocdb/data.php...tel_or_amd=amd
3500+ (Venice): cpulloverclock - 3571.42 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=46575
3500+ (SanDiego):
3700+ (ClawHammer): twillius_basic - 3331.38 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=16530
3700+ (Newark): (Newark): twillius - 3577.35 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=25406
3700+ (SanDiego): Misteroadster - 3704.71 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=38280
3800+ (Venice): PC Ice - 3878.05 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=10699
3800+ (Toledo): destro404 - 3104.89MHz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=72168
3800+ (NewCastle): Shamino - 3201MHz http://www.vr-zone.com/ocdb/data.php...tel_or_amd=amd
4000+ (Newark): metalman2785 - 3331. 1MHz http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=702
4000+ (SanDiego): El Snorro - 3750.83 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=76885
4000+ (ClawHammer): gubben - 3614.77 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=25221
FX-53 (ClawHammer): |RickY| & Pedro Rocha - 3602.8 MHz http://resources.vr-zone.com/ocdb/da...tel_or_amd=amd
FX-55 (San Diego): Shamino - 4026.33 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=24489
FX-55 (ClawHammer): |RickY|&Pedro Rocha - 4005.23 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=10680
FX-57: MemoryExtremeTeam - 4101.98 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=56028
FX-60: mikeguava - 3868.82MHz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=75052
X2 3800+: Hoschi - 3602.6MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=62810
X2 4200+: sson74 - 3557.12 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=80775
X2 4400+: Fosco - 3408.27 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=62072
X2 4600+: Onepagebook - 3687.15 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=78999
X2 4800+: MikeGuava - 3560MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=72471
Opteron 144 (Venus): Overcrash - 3657.8 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=75334
Opteron 146 (Venus): MOSO - 3813 Mhz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=70263
Opteron 148 (Venus): Daniel - 3787.85 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=47280
Opteron 150 (Venus): Predator - 3600.9MHz - http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/799...0m373006ax.jpg
Opteron 154 (Venus): s7e9h3n - 4005.19MHz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=70094
Opteron 165 (Toledo): Nephilim - 3454.8 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=78027
Opteron 170 (Toledo): Absolute_0 - 3473.7 Mhz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=74927
Opteron 175 (Toledo): ixtapalapaquetl - 3420.73 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=80573
Opteron 180 (Toledo): cupra - 3450.99 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=76888
Turion MT-30 (Lancaster: Badong - 3000 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=81677
Turion MT-40 (Lancaster): ryan.crest - 2935.4 MHz http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1141651189
Sempron 2800+ (Paris): turez - 2498.25 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=38643
Sempron Mobile 3000+ : hs - 2972.41 Mhz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=69610
Sempron64 2500+ (Palermo): JunQiang - 3003.86 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=75385
Sempron64 2600+ (Palermo): pawell262 - 3220.99 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=67685
Sempron64 2800+ (Palermo): fr@me - 3287.69 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=55087
Sempron64 3000+ (Palermo): fr@me - 3133.20 MHz http://overclockers.ru/cpubase/?action=details&id=12402
Sempron64 3000+ (Winchester): TiN_EOF - 3031.20 Mhz http://www.topmods.net/tin/3031.png
Sempron64 3000+ (Palermo): pr1nce - 3208.18 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=75376
Sempron64 3100+ (Palermo): STEELBALLZ/MARTAKIS - 3144.31 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=75165
Sempron64 3200+: AeGis - 3065.32 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=78404
Sempron64 3300+ (Palermo): XFXGeforced - 2843.9 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=78287
Sempron64 3400+: fr@me - 2928.95 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=66864

I can break 2.7 on a Opty 165, if you can't do that on a 175, you're a newbie...plain and simple, and you need to stop talking.

BTW: DIB doesn't improve performance Apache, having 2 FSB's to 1 Northbridge, yea that works :roll:.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

 

[mpjesse]

Actually it has to do more with stages and pipelines.

Pentium 4's netburst has an insane number of stages which allows for higher clock speeds. As we've discussed a billion times before, AMD's focus is IPC. One way a high IPC is achieved is through shorter pipelines and fewer stages. Intel's focus with the Pentium 4 was primarily clock speed and large L2 caches. Every successive Pentium 4 had more and more stages which allowed for higher clock speeds. Of course that's changed w/ the Pentium-M, Core Duo, and Conroe.

No one design is really superior than the other IMO. It takes an engineering feet to design IC's that are capable of high clock speeds. But there are certainly major limitations to just ramping up clock speeds, current leakage being one of them.

-mpjesse

 

[angry_ducky]

AMD's current dual cores have trouble overclocking to 3GHz, much less 10 to 20% over 3GHz, which would be needed for manu to release a stable chip at 3GHz...
I have trouble breaking 2.7GHz with my Opteron 175 stock at 2.2GHz.

This is for the 2 idiots RichPLS and Apache_Lives:

Overall: AMD FX-57 MemoryExtremeTeam - 4101.98 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=56028

1.4 GHz (Applebred): cpulloverclock - 3031.14MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=40070
1.8 GHz (Applebred): fr@me&Xupyp1 - 2881 Mhz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=73482
1700+ (Toro): Misteroadster - 3227 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=44359
1800+ (Toro): boblemagnifique - 3234.8 MHz http://www.membres.lycos.fr/boblemag...00/3235MHz.png
2500+ (Barton): NewBeetle - 3578.4MHz - http://resources.vr-zone.com/ocdb/da...tel_or_amd=amd
2600+ (Barton): pietro - 3466.3MHz - http://resources.vr-zone.com/ocdb/da...tel_or_amd=amd
2800+ (Clawhammer): setyotomo & ilyas - 3204.14 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=18206
3000+ (Barton): Memesama - 3613.96MHz - http://resources.vr-zone.com/ocdb/vi...=pjpeg&which=i
3000+ (Venice 754): amazetestlab - 3090.28MHz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=65486
3000+ (Oakville): firefly - 2700.13MHz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=65488
3000+ (NewCastle): Ssilencer - 3276.60 MHz http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/4638/32765gm.gif
3000+ (ClawHammer): fr@me - 3156 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=65931
3000+ (Winchester): easypanic - 3412.61 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=15933
3000+ (Venice): cpulloverclock - 3644.18 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=41857
3200+ (NewCastle): .::Maddog::. & mosin_nagant - 3024MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=22563
3200+ (Manchester): ryba - 3405.67 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=58776
3200+ (Winchester): NewBeetle - 3463 MHz http://cal930.sakura.ne.jp/cgi-bin/c...le/3463MHz.gif
3200+ (Venice): s7e9h3n - 3723.6MHz - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...8&postcount=12
3400+ (ClawHammer): eshbach & Evil Spork - 3320.71 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=12416
3400+ (NewCastle): Jrocket - 3359.59 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=18225
3400+ (Venice): damarble - 2850.66 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=67088
3500+ (Manchester): Willis - 3205.02 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=79721
3500+ (ClawHammer)jdr2001 & Silence - 3521.6 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=49904
3500+ (NewCastle): |RickY| - 3604.0 MHz http://www.teampuss.com/forums/files/3500caa2c_234.jpg
3500+ (Winchester): Boogotop - 3271,70 MHz http://www.vr-zone.com/ocdb/data.php...tel_or_amd=amd
3500+ (Venice): cpulloverclock - 3571.42 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=46575
3500+ (SanDiego):
3700+ (ClawHammer): twillius_basic - 3331.38 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=16530
3700+ (Newark): (Newark): twillius - 3577.35 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=25406
3700+ (SanDiego): Misteroadster - 3704.71 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=38280
3800+ (Venice): PC Ice - 3878.05 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=10699
3800+ (Toledo): destro404 - 3104.89MHz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=72168
3800+ (NewCastle): Shamino - 3201MHz http://www.vr-zone.com/ocdb/data.php...tel_or_amd=amd
4000+ (Newark): metalman2785 - 3331. 1MHz http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=702
4000+ (SanDiego): El Snorro - 3750.83 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=76885
4000+ (ClawHammer): gubben - 3614.77 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=25221
FX-53 (ClawHammer): |RickY| & Pedro Rocha - 3602.8 MHz http://resources.vr-zone.com/ocdb/da...tel_or_amd=amd
FX-55 (San Diego): Shamino - 4026.33 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=24489
FX-55 (ClawHammer): |RickY|&Pedro Rocha - 4005.23 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=10680
FX-57: MemoryExtremeTeam - 4101.98 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=56028
FX-60: mikeguava - 3868.82MHz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=75052
X2 3800+: Hoschi - 3602.6MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=62810
X2 4200+: sson74 - 3557.12 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=80775
X2 4400+: Fosco - 3408.27 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=62072
X2 4600+: Onepagebook - 3687.15 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=78999
X2 4800+: MikeGuava - 3560MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=72471
Opteron 144 (Venus): Overcrash - 3657.8 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=75334
Opteron 146 (Venus): MOSO - 3813 Mhz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=70263
Opteron 148 (Venus): Daniel - 3787.85 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=47280
Opteron 150 (Venus): Predator - 3600.9MHz - http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/799...0m373006ax.jpg
Opteron 154 (Venus): s7e9h3n - 4005.19MHz - http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=70094
Opteron 165 (Toledo): Nephilim - 3454.8 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=78027
Opteron 170 (Toledo): Absolute_0 - 3473.7 Mhz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=74927
Opteron 175 (Toledo): ixtapalapaquetl - 3420.73 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=80573
Opteron 180 (Toledo): cupra - 3450.99 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=76888
Turion MT-30 (Lancaster: Badong - 3000 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=81677
Turion MT-40 (Lancaster): ryan.crest - 2935.4 MHz http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1141651189
Sempron 2800+ (Paris): turez - 2498.25 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=38643
Sempron Mobile 3000+ : hs - 2972.41 Mhz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=69610
Sempron64 2500+ (Palermo): JunQiang - 3003.86 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=75385
Sempron64 2600+ (Palermo): pawell262 - 3220.99 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=67685
Sempron64 2800+ (Palermo): fr@me - 3287.69 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=55087
Sempron64 3000+ (Palermo): fr@me - 3133.20 MHz http://overclockers.ru/cpubase/?action=details&id=12402
Sempron64 3000+ (Winchester): TiN_EOF - 3031.20 Mhz http://www.topmods.net/tin/3031.png
Sempron64 3000+ (Palermo): pr1nce - 3208.18 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=75376
Sempron64 3100+ (Palermo): STEELBALLZ/MARTAKIS - 3144.31 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=75165
Sempron64 3200+: AeGis - 3065.32 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=78404
Sempron64 3300+ (Palermo): XFXGeforced - 2843.9 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=78287
Sempron64 3400+: fr@me - 2928.95 MHz http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=66864

I can break 2.7 on a Opty 165, if you can't do that on a 175, you're a newbie...plain and simple, and you need to stop talking.

BTW: DIB doesn't improve performance Apache, having 2 FSB's to 1 Northbridge, yea that works :roll:.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

Damn; those are some high overclocks . I'd be happy with my P4 at 4GHz; i can't do that because of this shitty proprietary motherboard, but if I get a real board, watch out. But even a 4GHz, an FX57 at stock speeds would pwn mine. Only a 7GHz P4 could perform better than that 4GHz FX57.