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thebunny   03-31-2006 at 01:15:58 AM

as I said I have a problem with my PC and I need your help
Every time I shut down the PC I get an checksum error and it tells me to shut down all the overclocking features. I did no overclocking on my PC and I don't know what could have happend.
After that ( press f1 ...) the Pc runs nicely (games and stuff) and I can see no problem.
When I try to restart-it after the windows is shuting down screen I get a black screen (the monitor seems that is getting no signal) but it doesn't boot
I am really confused 8O because the PC was runnig perfectly when y left town for the weekend and after i got back it started with this sh!t :cry:
pls help because I have no idee what could have happend
my sistem:
AMD 64 (winchester) 3000+
MSI K8n neo4 Platinum
2x512 ddr corsair XMS TwinX
leadtek px6600td
HDD seagate 80 GB

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Luminaris   03-31-2006 at 01:23:33 AM
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Probably the first thing I would check is make sure the BIOS jumper did not come off the board or make sure it is making good contact on the correct pins.

I don't know but by the sounds of it, something is going on with EEPROM chip. You may want to check the battery as well.

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thebunny   03-31-2006 at 01:51:18 AM
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Thx
i tried a Bios update firs but... no changes
ill look for the jumper :?

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thebunny   03-31-2006 at 02:13:25 AM
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my mobo has a reset cmos button so i don't think it has a jumper :?

pls help now it showed
keyboard error -and the keyboard is connected
something about the display configuration
checksum error ...
override mode...
after i tried to reset the cmos i had also a battery error
Pls help because i have no idee what is happening :cry:

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thebunny   03-31-2006 at 04:00:44 AM
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anyone know a better way to check the battery besides replacing it with anotherone?
I mean is there any software that can monitor a mobo battery? :roll:
Thx in advance :wink:

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Cybercraig   03-31-2006 at 04:36:43 AM
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You should be able to see the battery voltage in BIOS. For two bucks I think I'd just get another. I have seen 2 go bad recently. If I stays flakey you can try an upgrade to the latest and greatest. Are you overclocked? :?:

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49ers540   03-31-2006 at 05:46:16 AM
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Your first problem is you bought a AMD, you have to work the bugs out before it works. Built hundreds of Intel, never had a single problem with one. Return all your stuff and wait for the conroe or buy yourself a pentium M.

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Luminaris   03-31-2006 at 06:24:31 AM
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Well, the only other way to check the battery is with a voltmeter. Sounds as if the battery is dead. I would get a replacement for it and see if that solves the problem.

I still think it's a problem in the BIOS chip. It could be corrupt or damaged. Try replacing the battery first though just to get started.

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Stinkfinger   03-31-2006 at 07:08:55 AM
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I had the same problem with an Intel 3.0e

went into Bios and clicked load optimized defaults and ran fine

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Scout   03-31-2006 at 07:24:21 AM
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Wow... That's really helpful...

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thebunny   03-31-2006 at 12:27:50 PM
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it seems that my only option is to replace te battery and see what happens.
i made no overclocking

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thebunny   03-31-2006 at 02:29:48 PM
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hmm on the battery sais that it is 3+ v , but the bios shows that it functions at 1.4 v is that ok?
i also figured out that the mobo should have 18 A on the atx 12 v but my psu has only 12 A :?
next week i will change the battery and perhaps I should change the psu. what do you guys think?
the psu is a no name 400w

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MU_Engineer   03-31-2006 at 03:34:08 PM
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I think replace both. That battery is dead and you need more power on that +12V rail. A good 400-500W PSU is around $60, and a very good one is about $20 more. And worth every penny.

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thebunny   04-06-2006 at 04:06:13 PM
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It was the battery, after replacing it there where no more "bugs" :lol:
I must though change the PSU because I believe that is the real problem
Thx u all for the help :trophy:

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hawkeye22   04-06-2006 at 04:41:48 PM
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How long have you had that board? Some earlier rev's of that board had battery problems and wouldn't last more than a month or two. You can read about this on some of the user comments on newegg.

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cmptrdude79   04-06-2006 at 04:47:42 PM
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Quote :

Your first problem is you bought a AMD, you have to work the bugs out before it works. Built hundreds of Intel, never had a single problem with one. Return all your stuff and wait for the conroe or buy yourself a pentium M.



Then, you obviously know nothing about properly building a PC. Save your fanboy-ism for elsewhere. This has absolutely nothing to do with his choice of CPU manufacturers.

-J

(Annoyed by Idiots)

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rodney_ws   04-06-2006 at 04:57:23 PM
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Your first problem is you bought a AMD, you have to work the bugs out before it works. Built hundreds of Intel, never had a single problem with one. Return all your stuff and wait for the conroe or buy yourself a pentium M.



Oh, blow it out your ass. No manufacturer is immune to problems. My first and only AMD has been every bit as reliable as the half-dozen Intels that came before it.

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Luminaris   04-06-2006 at 05:05:04 PM
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It was the battery, after replacing it there where no more "bugs" :lol:
I must though change the PSU because I believe that is the real problem
Thx u all for the help :trophy:



That's cool that you got it working. Nice to see useful results from these forums instead of the usual daily Intel-AMD bashing that goes on.

Hopefully, you won't have any more problems with it. :wink:

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mdd1963   04-06-2006 at 05:23:17 PM
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"Built hundreds of Intel, never had a single problem with one."

LOL!

Good one!

For sure, the Award BIOS in MSI's NF4/AMD boards is bound to be less stable than the Award BIOS in the Intel 975 series!

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penguin_d   04-06-2006 at 05:32:32 PM
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It was the battery, after replacing it there where no more "bugs" :lol:
I must though change the PSU because I believe that is the real problem
Thx u all for the help :trophy:



That's cool that you got it working. Nice to see useful results from these forums instead of the usual daily Intel-AMD bashing that goes on.

Hopefully, you won't have any more problems with it. :wink:

Finally, someone else who actually sees the grey...

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cmptrdude79   04-06-2006 at 05:35:47 PM
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Refreshing, isn't it?

-J

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thebunny   04-06-2006 at 05:43:34 PM
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Quote :

How long have you had that board? Some earlier rev's of that board had battery problems and wouldn't last more than a month or two. You can read about this on some of the user comments on newegg.


about 4 months I think thx for the link :wink:

and I hope this will be the last problem with my mobo :D
and another thing :? it turned out that it was a mobo problem so i apologise for posting in the cpu thread :roll:

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Luminaris   04-06-2006 at 05:50:45 PM
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Quote :

How long have you had that board? Some earlier rev's of that board had battery problems and wouldn't last more than a month or two. You can read about this on some of the user comments on newegg.


about 4 months I think thx for the link :wink:

and I hope this will be the last problem with my mobo :D
and another thing :? it turned out that it was a mobo problem so i apologise for posting in the cpu thread :roll:

Well, the thing of it is, you didn't know if it was the motherboard or not. It could have been anything so, it's perfectly ok to post it here.

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maximustx   04-06-2006 at 06:23:28 PM
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Your first problem is you bought a AMD, you have to work the bugs out before it works. Built hundreds of Intel, never had a single problem with one. Return all your stuff and wait for the conroe or buy yourself a pentium M.



Is this dude serious??? this was obviously a mobo issue... why is he blaming on the CPU?

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bankai86   04-06-2006 at 06:39:12 PM
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Your first problem is you bought a AMD, you have to work the bugs out before it works. Built hundreds of Intel, never had a single problem with one. Return all your stuff and wait for the conroe or buy yourself a pentium M.



49ers540 you are one bias lil douchebag arent ya? Stupid fanboy dont even talk unless you know wtf your talking about. I remember in one thread you were praising how great Dell's were ROFL, thats says enough noob; dont post anymore cuz it makes you look like even more of an idiot , oh wait too bad u already did.

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Stinkfinger   04-06-2006 at 07:17:50 PM
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Built hundreds of Intels without a problem? I highly doubt that.

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thebunny   04-07-2006 at 12:24:20 AM
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in conclusion to this post i must add that there is a problem to certain MSI k8n Neo4 mobos regarding the cmos battery wich seems to drain extremely fast :cry:
the only known method to solve this problem is to RMA the board (recommmended By MSI). it seems to be a power leek
some users replaced 4 batteries in 2 months 8O

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bluntside   04-07-2006 at 12:57:10 AM
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if msi anit working for you try a dfi mobo :wink:

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Caboose-1   04-07-2006 at 01:58:11 AM
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Quote :

Your first problem is you bought a AMD, you have to work the bugs out before it works. Built hundreds of Intel, never had a single problem with one. Return all your stuff and wait for the conroe or buy yourself a pentium M.



49ers540 you are one bias lil douchebag arent ya? Stupid fanboy dont even talk unless you know wtf your talking about. I remember in one thread you were praising how great Dell's were ROFL, thats says enough noob; dont post anymore cuz it makes you look like even more of an idiot , oh wait too bad u already did. You make yourself look pretty good too.

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