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I've just upgraded my graphics card and I'm getting weird graphical corruption in most, but not all of my games.

Lines come out of the characters, like this

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4544/oblivion2006033010461684small9.jpg

It happens in FEAR half life 2, Oblivion but not in 3DMark06 or Far Cry

Why is this happening?

I've tried different drivers, underclocking, lowering my RAM speed but nothing makes any difference

Any more suggestions?

Athon 2200+
AN7X8 motherboard
512 Ram
V9999 td Geforce 6800

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Looks like vram artifacts to me. I just rma'd a new 9800 pro that did the exact same thing in most games.

Reply to pauldh

Can I do anything about it?

Got my card from e-bay so returning it will be tricky...

Reply to T_L_T

uh... how about temperature? have you checked your card's fan and heatsink?

Reply to jap0nes

turn off fastwrites i had the same effect with it enabled and I do have a v9999ge model

Reply to gomerpile

I don't think it's a heating issue because most heating issues create instability but not display anomolies like the one you are experiencing. The nature of the problem indicates that it is almost certainly a problem with the GPU, which sounds obvious but it is important to isolate the problem. It is most likely a driver issue that will almost certainly eventually get resolved, but not neccesarily in the near future. Is there no way you can replace the graphics card? Can you try swapping out the card with a different card from another system just to make sure its the GPU that's the problem?

Reply to JHDave

Thanks for the suggestions but no luck i'm afraid...

The card is not overheating it run at about 41C
Turning fastwrites off doesn't make any difference

It deffinatly the card though, replaced it with my old Radeon 7000 and the corruption dissapears completely in Half Life 2

It really looks like its a faulty card. :(

Reply to T_L_T

It Seems That Your Card Is OverHeated :evil: Check Your Temp , Maybe The Fan Of The Card Doesnt Work Well ... Try To Get A New VGA Cooler For Your Graphic Card Like Accelero X1 Or Something Like It :evil:

Reply to PX7800GT

that may sound stupid, but... you said you tried different drivers, but did you try the newest one?
could be memory heating or even a faulty card :/ temp programs dont show temperature for memory...

Reply to jap0nes

I had a similar problem with my Geforce 6600GT AGP in athlon xp board.

That was down to the motherboard drivers.
Updating the chipset drivers fixed that. It was a SiS chipset though, and I don't know what your mobo uses.

Reply to KingGreatYat

Ok none worked and not overheating have you plugged in the 2 molex power connect for the card and second maybe you psu is not pumping enough juice

Reply to gomerpile

Right well, last night I tried to update my BIOS thinking that that might help and ended up killing my motherboard.

I've just installed a new nforce 3 based k8nsc motherboard and athlon 64 which I got a reasonably good deal on.

The problem is still there though...

So it is def a hardware problem I think.

Anybody know how I might underclock the ram to see if that helps?

or how to check the RAM's temp?

Reply to T_L_T

p.s. I've got a 450watt psu, that sould be plenty right?

Reply to T_L_T

I don't think so dude can you tell me what the amps on the 12 volt rail or the make of and model the psu.
The v9999 takes lots of power for them they are a strong vcrad that takes up the watts specially the ram this is why I suggest no lessor than a 550 watt with 32 amps or more on the 12 volt rail min of 26A.

Reply to gomerpile

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I don't think so dude can you tell me what the amps on the 12 volt rail or the make of and model the psu.
The v9999 takes lots of power for them they are a strong vcrad that takes up the watts specially the ram this is why I suggest no lessor than a 550 watt with 32 amps or more on the 12 volt rail min of 26A.



I've checked and you may be right... 25a on the 12v rail

It's a Jon Jye Electronic Co JJ-450

Will replacing my PSU really help though, I've already spent a small fortune on this upgrade... Could have gone PCIe DOH! :roll:

Reply to T_L_T

25 amp on the 12v is fine for your set up.

Try coolbits to underclock the RAM.
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=815

Reply to pauldh

disable 1 pixel shadder and 1 vertex shadder the ones you will disable will be the hardware one. I dont want you to speed anymore money but you will need a bigger psu you are just cutting the edge with the 25 a I know I had to get a bigger one too for the ge model. try the underclock first though and if that stops it than you do need a better psu

Reply to gomerpile

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disable 1 pixel shadder and 1 vertex shadder the ones you will disable will be the hardware one. I dont want you to speed anymore money but you will need a bigger psu you are just cutting the edge with the 25 a I know I had to get a bigger one too for the ge model. try the underclock first though and if that stops it than you do need a better psu



Dude you've got it!

Disabled one pixel shader and on vertex shader and it works!

Trouble is now i'm on 8 pipelines and 4 vertex shaders which of course lowers my fps, so the million dollar questions is this the overclock, or was it the ram you were talking about? Will a new power supply sort it or is my graphics card duff?

Reply to T_L_T

I think it will but you will have 12 pipes now dude you have the gt and it should be 16 sorry it is the td you will have 12 someone enabled 16 before you got it by the way it looks to me.

Reply to gomerpile

Not so just the regular 6800... :cry:

Reply to T_L_T

you will have 12 dude trust me you can enable one vertex shadder with no problem its the pixel that the problem. dude you wont have that much of a fps slow down I havent I still play all the games with really good fps with high to med settings mostly high I turn effects down because I cant see a bloody thing when set to high.

Reply to gomerpile

Yeah tried that, vertex shader worked pixel shader didn't...

Is there away to make that work too?

Reply to T_L_T

I would not even try right now because it is unstable but flashing the bios to a better setting will speed it up for you. video bios that is

Reply to gomerpile

I've been looking at various power supplies, not sure which to get...

Alot of them have more than one 12v rail all running at a lower than 26a, should I be looking at the combined ampage on the 12v rail?

Reply to T_L_T

Raise TRP, TRAS, and maybe CL of your Video RAM.

That or underclock your Video RAM to about 70% stock speed.

Flash the VIDEO CARD with a Gigabyte BIOS, of as similar a card as possible, (Gigabyte use correct Video RAM timings - Often not talked about because most people don't try it) and the problem will go away, you'll likely be able to overclock it after doing this.

8)

Reply to TabrisDarkPeace

You need to try that card in another machine man.

Reply to GeneticWeapon

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You need to try that card in another machine man.



Just replaced the motherboard and cpu... it's in another machine!

Reply to T_L_T

none of that works for his problem I know I have tried to enable the pixel shadder on 4 of the cards and all are the same out come he has no problem ocing its artifacts he is getten.

Reply to gomerpile

enermax eg651p-v is what I use it also by tomshardware got a great outcome on the stress test it was the 2nd best in the test.

specks
3.3- 36a
5- 36a
12-36a

Reply to gomerpile

I'm just going to throw this out there, but he had a Radeon 7000 before...Did you completely uninstall all of the ATI drivers then put the card in and install the nVidia drivers? A lot of times you'll get problems...even if you go from an older nVidia card to a newer one without clearing those drivers off before installing it.

Reply to aryohrling

Dude I have two of these cards and every one has the same problem I have never owned a ati its not the drivers it is the pix shadders someone enabled 16-1.6 when it should be 12 - 1.5 but 12 -1.6 works I got a snaper for ya
http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/1204/screenshot17pl.jpg

the one that is disable if I try on both of the cards I get the same problem he has like I said before this is the 7th card I'v seen with this problem after all its only 12 pipes not 16

Reply to gomerpile

Iv'e checked in Smartdoctor and Rivatuner, i'm getting problems with running 12 pixel shaders and 5 Vertex....

When I drop down to 8 and 4, the card works...

I've reinstalled windows so def not a driver issue with my 7000

Now...
I've just bought a new psu running at 500w and two 12v rails both on 17a each and I still get the same problem, but not quite as bad. Does this mean and even more pwerful PSU would do it, or is it waste of time and money?

And how would I adjust the memory timings with out a bios flash of the card. Would that work, when I underclocked the ram it made no difference what so ever...

P.S. Cheers for all the help though, and have def made some progress :lol:

Reply to T_L_T

get nibitor this will allow you to read your current bios
http://www.mvktech.net/component/o [...] 92/page,2/
now you can edit the bios Tools select drive than ok than tools again than read into nibitor
version 2.5
now you need nvflash and a floppy
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=896
copy the new saved bios to floppy and the nvflash and read the instruction

use my screen shot for a guide to enable and disable

Reply to gomerpile

Had a quick look at that but will leave alone for the mo...
Just killed a motherboard fiddling with it's bios, don't want to kill the graphics card too!

What do you think about the PSU though? I can take this one back, so I'll have to try another...

Reply to T_L_T

These cards use alot of power I would say not but I don't know in all 2 rails with 17a seem ok but I would at least want no lessor than 32 on a 12 volt. Wait I had a 350 with 17a with mine and had to get a 651watt 36a its ok to use the program to read your video bios it does not do a thing you have to flash the bios to actually do harm I am thinking that the vcrad had reduced the volt for protection reasons I know mine did and I flashed it to change the protection volts to 1.5 from 1.3
you can use nibitor without problems dude this does not do a thing to your cards bios this only reads the bios not flash the bios you will get a warning but that warning is incase you decide to flash it with the settings.
always save the current bios to a file in case of a error and than if a problem does happen you can use a pci video card for the need to flash the agp back to its original saved bios. I have done this operation lots of times. never have I had a issue as long as you dont over do what the card can handle
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/8977/screenshot28aq.jpg
This is what I am talking about notice how mine are all 1.5 I change it for the current setting because ever time the gpu got a little to hot it change it to 1.3 even spikes can cause this and the card never changed it back Now that I think back I was having a few issuse with the lower volts

Reply to gomerpile

Had a look at NiNiTor, but don't reall know what I'm looking for.

Besides I don't have a floppy drive and I don't have A PCI card so Bios flashing is a a bad idea I think

Reply to T_L_T
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