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April 1, 2006 11:25:23 PM

All of these parts are from newegg, I'm not planning on spending much more then $2000.00. I was planning on making it SLI capable and possibly go SLI when prices come down alittle.

Heres what I got so far!

Case / Power Supply:
Antec Performance I P180 Silver 0.8mm cold rolled steel for durability through the majority of chassis, 1.0mm cold rolled steel around the 4x HDD area ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: P180
Item #: N82E16811129154

ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT ATX12V 620W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: ELT620AWT
Item #: N82E16817194004

Motherboard:
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: LP[UT]nF4 SLI-DR Exp
Item #: N82E16813136166

Graphics:
BFG Tech BFGR79512GTXOCE Geforce 7900GTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: BFGR79512GTXOCE
Item #: N82E16814143047

Processor:
Update AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Manchester 1GHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4600BVBOX - Retail
Model #: ADA4600BVBOX
Item #: N82E16819103545

Ram:
mushkin High-Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model 991434 - Retail
Model #: 991434
Item #: N82E16820146425

Storage:
Western Digital Raptor WD360GD 36.7GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD360GD
Item #: N82E16822144200

Western Digital Caviar SE WD2000JB 200GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD2000JB
Item #: N82E16822144129

Subtotal: $1,991.97

I'm also thinking about getting a LCD monitor and a headset but really don't have a clue about them so if someone has some suggestions for a gaming LCD or headset let me know. Thanks for any help!
April 2, 2006 12:20:53 AM

Excellent choices. Except the video card - why not go for an eVGA one? I hear better reviews for that than the BFG.
April 2, 2006 12:22:51 AM

Downgrade the CPU to a 4400+ and get a 74GB raptor.

Do you already have a DVD-ROM drive too? There are some other things that you might not have and are easily overlooked.
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April 2, 2006 12:36:13 AM

Dell 2005FPW for LCD display, Unless you dislike Wide Screen.
Then I'd go for the 2001.
April 2, 2006 12:42:52 AM

Quote:
All of these parts are from newegg, I'm not planning on spending much more then $2000.00. I was planning on making it SLI capable and possibly go SLI when prices come down alittle.

Heres what I got so far!

Case / Power Supply:
Antec Performance I P180 Silver 0.8mm cold rolled steel for durability through the majority of chassis, 1.0mm cold rolled steel around the 4x HDD area ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: P180
Item #: N82E16811129154

ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT ATX12V 620W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: ELT620AWT
Item #: N82E16817194004

Motherboard:
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: LP[UT]nF4 SLI-DR Exp
Item #: N82E16813136166

Graphics:
BFG Tech BFGR79512GTXOCE Geforce 7900GTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: BFGR79512GTXOCE
Item #: N82E16814143047

Processor:
Update AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Manchester 1GHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4600BVBOX - Retail
Model #: ADA4600BVBOX
Item #: N82E16819103545

Ram:
mushkin High-Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model 991434 - Retail
Model #: 991434
Item #: N82E16820146425

Storage:
Western Digital Raptor WD360GD 36.7GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD360GD
Item #: N82E16822144200

Western Digital Caviar SE WD2000JB 200GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD2000JB
Item #: N82E16822144129

Subtotal: $1,991.97

I'm also thinking about getting a LCD monitor and a headset but really don't have a clue about them so if someone has some suggestions for a gaming LCD or headset let me know. Thanks for any help!


With that video card you already basically have SLI has the 7900GTX is 2 256MB chips on 1 card. As numerous other people will tell you, unless you are going to get a 2nd card within 2-3 months, SLI is pointless.

As another poster said, downgrade to the 4400+, or consider an Opteron 165/170 and overclock it. The motherboard you picked is great for overclocking. Also, as another poster said, if you dont have DVD burner, pick up an NEC one for $38.
April 2, 2006 1:01:50 AM

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With that video card you already basically have SLI has the 7900GTX is 2 256MB chips on 1 card.


WTF? You must be thinking of the $1,000 card with two 7900 GPU's on one card. Don't confuse the GPU with the VRAM. Just because the 7900GTX has 512MB VRAM compared to the 7800's 256 does not mean that the 7900GTX has two GPU's on one card.
April 2, 2006 1:03:12 AM

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Do you already have a DVD-ROM drive too? There are some other things that you might not have and are easily overlooked.


I wasn't aware that a DVD-ROM drive is easily overclocked. Could you please tell me how to do that?
April 2, 2006 1:07:43 AM

the power supply is suprisingly expensive for 620watts. why not get the fsp 700watt for the same price??
April 2, 2006 1:15:09 AM

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Do you already have a DVD-ROM drive too? There are some other things that you might not have and are easily overlooked.


I wasn't aware that a DVD-ROM drive is easily overclocked. Could you please tell me how to do that?

I believe that Gangle03 would need at least a DVD-ROM drive in order for him to play games, or do pretty much anything else.
April 2, 2006 1:32:05 AM

I already have the cd and dvd drives on this computer along with a mouse, keyboard, and speakers. I will look into finding a cheaper power supply or get the 700W that rourouni815 mentioned. I also upgraded the 34 gig rapter to the 74 gig raptor. Thanks for the suggestions so far!
April 2, 2006 1:44:14 AM

Through out the dual core, single cores perform better.
April 2, 2006 1:48:09 AM

Alright, that's good to know. I was just wondering why you seemed to have so few actual components.
April 2, 2006 1:59:12 AM

I also recomend the opty 165/170 it will be a bit cheaper then the 4600 and will have very nice oc room as that setup is for ocing. I also recomend checking out dfistreet.com they have some very good recomedations on parts. Lastly the ENERMAX Noisetaker 620watt on of the recomended PSU's by DFI.
April 2, 2006 4:25:23 AM

Quote:
All of these parts are from newegg, I'm not planning on spending much more then $2000.00. I was planning on making it SLI capable and possibly go SLI when prices come down alittle.

Heres what I got so far!

Case / Power Supply:
Antec Performance I P180 Silver 0.8mm cold rolled steel for durability through the majority of chassis, 1.0mm cold rolled steel around the 4x HDD area ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: P180
Item #: N82E16811129154

ENERMAX Liberty ELT620AWT ATX12V 620W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: ELT620AWT
Item #: N82E16817194004

Motherboard:
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: LP[UT]nF4 SLI-DR Exp
Item #: N82E16813136166

Graphics:
BFG Tech BFGR79512GTXOCE Geforce 7900GTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: BFGR79512GTXOCE
Item #: N82E16814143047

Processor:
Update AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Manchester 1GHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4600BVBOX - Retail
Model #: ADA4600BVBOX
Item #: N82E16819103545

Ram:
mushkin High-Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model 991434 - Retail
Model #: 991434
Item #: N82E16820146425

Storage:
Western Digital Raptor WD360GD 36.7GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD360GD
Item #: N82E16822144200

Western Digital Caviar SE WD2000JB 200GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD2000JB
Item #: N82E16822144129

Subtotal: $1,991.97

I'm also thinking about getting a LCD monitor and a headset but really don't have a clue about them so if someone has some suggestions for a gaming LCD or headset let me know. Thanks for any help!


You do not need the 620W power supply unless you are powering a server.
You don't need that processor with 2GB of RAM and a 7900GTX, a single core 3500 will run everything at the same speed. If you want bragging rights, go ahead.
April 2, 2006 4:46:45 AM

Quote:
the power supply is suprisingly expensive for 620watts. why not get the fsp 700watt for the same price??


Oh my gosh....
Even with SLI on the latest cards you wouldn't need that many watts. You would only ever need that for a server.
April 2, 2006 4:48:07 AM

Great specs :-D

I wouldn't recommend the 37GB raptors however.

http://www.storagereview.com/comparison.html

The 37GB raptors perform slower than many modern 7200 RPM drives they only get about 57MB/sec.

I would suggest 1 or more WD2500KS 7200RPM 16MB 250GB data drives.

If you would like to get raptors get the new 150GB model.

Good luck :-D
April 2, 2006 6:06:11 AM

Quote:

You do not need the 620W power supply unless you are powering a server.
You don't need that processor with 2GB of RAM and a 7900GTX, a single core 3500 will run everything at the same speed. If you want bragging rights, go ahead.


Can you then please recommend a power supply to me that will be capable of running the computer or at least give me an estimate on how big of a power supply I will need? Thanks.
April 2, 2006 6:46:36 AM

Quote:

You do not need the 620W power supply unless you are powering a server.
You don't need that processor with 2GB of RAM and a 7900GTX, a single core 3500 will run everything at the same speed. If you want bragging rights, go ahead.


Can you then please recommend a power supply to me that will be capable of running the computer or at least give me an estimate on how big of a power supply I will need? Thanks.


I would recommend an Antec TPII 480 or 550

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1681...
April 2, 2006 7:21:39 PM

Alright heres my new updated list!

Case / Power Supply:
Antec Performance I P180 Silver 0.8mm cold rolled steel for durability through the majority of chassis, 1.0mm cold rolled steel around the 4x HDD area ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Model #: P180
Item #: N82E16811129154

Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 ATX12V 550W Power Supply - Retail
Model #: TPII-550
Item #: N82E16817103931

Motherboard:
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR Expert Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Model #: LP[UT]nF4 SLI-DR Exp
Item #: N82E16813136166

Graphics:
BFG Tech BFGR79512GTXOCE Geforce 7900GTX 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: BFGR79512GTXOCE
Item #: N82E16814143047

Processor:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 1GHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4400CDBOX - Retail
Model #: ADA4400CDBOX
Item #: N82E16819103546

Ram:
mushkin High-Performance 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model 991434 - Retail
Model #: 991434
Item #: N82E16820146425

Storage:
Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD740GD
Item #: N82E16822144160

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
Model #: WD2500KS
Item #: N82E16822144701

Subtotal: 1,887.97

I've got about $200.00 more I can put toward a computer. Anything I should upgrade or add on? Also how is the onboard sound on this Motherboard? Should I look into a sound card?
April 2, 2006 8:00:34 PM

For the extra $200, I would suggest picking up a sound card if you haven't already. The X-Fi series from Creative are perfect for gaming and would be a great addition to you system. A sound card would take stress off your CPU and could improve overall performance, even if just by a little bit. If you have a good speaker set or really good headphones, you can notice the difference between onboard and a decent sound card, and you will never want to go back.
April 2, 2006 8:11:08 PM

Quote:
Do you already have a DVD-ROM drive too? There are some other things that you might not have and are easily overlooked.


I wasn't aware that a DVD-ROM drive is easily overclocked. Could you please tell me how to do that?

I don't get it...?

Don't worry, he just failed the competency of reading. overlooked ~ overclocked
April 2, 2006 8:25:01 PM

Quote:
Do you already have a DVD-ROM drive too? There are some other things that you might not have and are easily overlooked.


I wasn't aware that a DVD-ROM drive is easily overclocked. Could you please tell me how to do that?

I don't get it...?

Don't worry, he just failed the competency of reading. overlooked ~ overclocked

ROFL; I just noticed that. I wasn't wearing my glasses when I posted that.
April 2, 2006 8:30:21 PM

Quote:

You do not need the 620W power supply unless you are powering a server.
You don't need that processor with 2GB of RAM and a 7900GTX, a single core 3500 will run everything at the same speed. If you want bragging rights, go ahead.


Can you then please recommend a power supply to me that will be capable of running the computer or at least give me an estimate on how big of a power supply I will need? Thanks.

550 watt Antec TruePowerII for $85 from newewgg.com. And BTW; a dual core makes sense to prepare for the future where apps will be dual core optimized.
April 2, 2006 9:34:17 PM

I fully agree with the dual core direction.

I never fully understand ppl that say that single cores perform better. I realise that, if running a single application that is cpu intensive, then you will get better results from a single core. But how many ppl run a single process that requires that slight performance boost ?

Windows is a multi-tasking OS (and I'm sure other OS's are the same). Most ppl will have several applications running at the same time (email client, Office applications, Internet, mp3 player, anti-virus software.... the list goes on). Having a dual core processor (or multi-threaded) will help distribute the load on the cpu, and make any pc feel more responsive. Many is the time I've had a single process lock up a single core processor, and I've had to sit there and wait until it's finished doing whatever it was doing (and sometimes even reboot because of a lockup).

You may get a slightly reduced score in some benchmark, but they are only benchmarks, and not the real world.

And if we want to consider gaming, then how much impact will a slightly faster CPU have on gaming performance ? I would suggest very little, as gaming performance is mostly based on GPU.

Now, there are exceptions and I accept that. But for the vast majority of pc users, dual core/mulit-threaded processor is the best solution.

If anyone has any convincing arguments against the above, then please let me know. I am always willing to learn.
April 2, 2006 9:39:39 PM

Time for my 2 cents... :idea:

First off, 'S7A88Y' needs to be dragged out back of the garage and shot then buried... go dual core, and go Opteron. the 165 is 1.8Ghz stock, but these things OC wonderfully, I have a 170 (stock 2.0Ghz) @2.9Ghz, idle/35, load/44C. The money saved from NOT going with the X2 can get you a nice WATERCOOLING RIG... about $100 will get you a good one for the cpu, more if you want to cool your gpu's...

DON'T SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY! At least 600 watts if you go SLI, can go less if you go with one card... my Enermax 620W popped after 3 months (thankfully, nothing else went with it), have replaced with PC Power and Cooling 1KW PSU... it's huge, but this thing is the bomb. If it blows, I might as well take my whole community with me...

Lastly, stick with Newegg, they do indeed rock.

PDH-NicFury
April 2, 2006 9:49:25 PM

Quote:
Time for my 2 cents... :idea:

First off, 'S7A88Y' needs to be dragged out back of the garage and shot then buried... go dual core, and go Opteron. the 165 is 1.8Ghz stock, but these things OC wonderfully, I have a 170 (stock 2.0Ghz) @2.9Ghz, idle/35, load/44C. The money saved from NOT going with the X2 can get you a nice WATERCOOLING RIG... about $100 will get you a good one for the cpu, more if you want to cool your gpu's...

DON'T SKIMP ON THE POWER SUPPLY! At least 600 watts if you go SLI, can go less if you go with one card... my Enermax 620W popped after 3 months (thankfully, nothing else went with it), have replaced with PC Power and Cooling 1KW PSU... it's huge, but this thing is the bomb. If it blows, I might as well take my whole community with me...

Lastly, stick with Newegg, they do indeed rock.

PDH-NicFury

I would say that he shouldnt inmidiatly OC his new pc there is no need to tell him to go ahead and void his warrenty the 4400 will do excelent.As for powers supplies you could run a sli setup with a 510 watt powersupply i have seen it before i am not just making this up.And it ran fine although i personaly say you should go with 550-580.antec brand should work fine.I would suggest for video card to go with a x1900xt.I know that you werer thinking of going with sli but it is just not worth it and the x1900xt or xtx performs a deceint amount more that the 7900.And i believe you said somthing about getting a moniter.I am not sure what size you want but these are to great 19 inch moniters.
LG Electronics Flatron L1950B
Dell UltraSharp 1905FP
April 2, 2006 10:27:54 PM

If you want to SLI, why not go with a single 7900 GT (save a lot of money and you won't lose much performance at all!) right now snag an X-Fi Platinum sound card? Also, use the extra money to upgrade your 74 GB Raptor to the 150 GB version. I read a review somewhere that said the 150 GB Raptor performed better than dual 250 GB 7,200 rpm hard drives in Raid-0. Use that for the OS/games and the 250 GB hard drive for storage.
April 2, 2006 11:01:48 PM

Through out the dual core, single cores perform better.

Maybe, if you do nothing but off-line gaming, you can get a couple of fps extra. But if you plan on doing on-line gaming, you need a virus program, and a firewall running, and the dual-core will blow the single out of the water. And if you're not a single-issue user (i.e. games only), the dual core comes in even better. Try rendering a video and doing anything else at the same time on a single core. It can seriously suck. Not to mention, the next generation of games (or at least the one after that) will be optimized for dual core.
April 2, 2006 11:11:03 PM

use the extra money to upgrade your 74 GB Raptor

Yes, go with the Raptor. You'll shave a whole second off of windows load time. You'll boot in 44 seconds instead of 45. And it costs only four times as much per gig. And it runs much hotter than a 7200rpm, so you get the joy of adding another fan.
Sure, you could get a 300gigger for the same price, but who cares? This is for showing off, not actual performance gains.
April 2, 2006 11:59:25 PM

In reply to Sekure:

Warranty be damned, if a cpu is known to oc well to greatly (LIKE THE OPTERON), GO FOR IT. The money spent on an X2 4400 could get him an Opteron 170 and a watercooling rig for the same price, while easily giving him better than FX-60 performance. Call me crazy, but I think that's well worth voiding the warranty. (just don't get carried away and shoot for over 3Ghz's...)(unless you get a vapor phase-change cooling system)

As for SLI power supplies, I say 600 watts or better because systems use a lot of power. Especially todays high-end systems, which have power hungry cpu's and gpu's, not to mention multiple sticks of RAM, multiple harddrive's, soundcard, and other peripherals... they add up, and the 400-550 watt PSU's can't power them. SLI alone can put a hurtin' on a psu.

Oh, yeah, if you're looking for a gaming monitor, try Viewsonic. Low price, quality product, and 3-4ms response time in a 19" package (fellow clan member clued me in to that one)... pretty nice. (My 17" Samsung at 8ms is sweet, but at almost 2 years old it's time to get a 21-24" widescreen...)

I'm no genius at computers, but I've been playing the game for a while...

PDH-NicFury
April 3, 2006 12:00:09 AM

No it performes quite a bit better and it dosnt get much hotter.Dont mean to cause a fight just stating facts.
April 3, 2006 12:05:24 AM

But why should he OC when it is not needed?And 500-550 watts of power is more than enough with a gaming machine with sli like i said before.I could post the link if you want just to prove it to you and anyone else.
April 3, 2006 12:58:57 AM

I would say go with the 7900 GT - it really is quite enough power for extreme gaming, and can be overclocked very well, up past a 7900 GTX. And it's been proven that 512 MB of VRAM does nothing for performance, unless you work on a 30-inch monitor or something. And if you do that, you're probably not gaming, so a Matrox or Quadro would be much more appropriate.

On the power supply issue, YOU DON'T NEED A HUUUUGE POWER SUPPLY. A nice high-end Antec, OCZ, Enermax or Seasonic will do dandily. Anywhere around 500W will be poifect.

Good choice on the motherboard - stick with DFI and you'll be fine.

Is Mushkin the best RAM you can find? Check out the G.Skill DDR-500 RAM. That will let you overclock very well, because it defaults to a higher speed while you're overclocking. It will give you a lot of headroom. Don't worry about the brand (not being Mushkin, OCZ, Patriot, etc.), or that it's CL3 (there was a review on this very recently, still on the main page). Muskin's good, but for overclocking with 2 GB of RAM, a higher RAM clock speed will do wonders for your OC-age.

I agree with the smart people - go with a socket 939 Opteron. Not oinly do you get a green case badge that says "Opteron 64" on it (pretty much only for braggin' rights, the sticker only rasies your 3DMark score by about 3 points), but it will overclock very nicely. Almost as important is that you get 2 x 1 MB of cache. And the 165 is cheaper than the one you picked out!

the 150 GB raptor is very nice, the fastest one so far, with 16 MB of cache and NCQ (helps with random access time for small files). But, to be fair, it isn't that much faster than the 74 GB (although both are quicker than the 37 GB).

To sum up:

7900 GT
You don't need that big of a power supply (getting the smaller card will help)
DFI is good
G.Skill DDR-500
Either 150 GB or 74 GB Raptor, either one is good

Good luck with your build.
April 3, 2006 1:44:27 AM

With that extra 200 dollars get an aegia physx card...
April 3, 2006 1:48:40 AM

Quote:
With that extra 200 dollars get an aegia physx card...

there's not even any games that support that yet.For now it is a waste of $200 but once companys if they ever do give support to that then it will be worth it.
April 3, 2006 4:01:52 AM

should I SLI

eVGA 256-P2-N563-AX Geforce 7900GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
Model #: 256-P2-N563-AX
Item #: N82E16814130281

and drop the BFG 7900GTX 512MB

Then I will have pretty close to my limit of 2000.00 for the comp.
April 3, 2006 4:06:26 AM

It really comes down to if you want to spend twice the amount for 20%-30% more performance.In my OP dont it isnt worth it unless you need it cause you are playing it on a big moniter.And concider getting a x1900xt or xtx they are the fastest video cards out.
April 3, 2006 4:10:50 AM

And somthing i should add is if you want to go with SLI then go with it cause that setup will be killer.
April 3, 2006 9:27:57 AM

Yay, someone who isn't a total newegg fanboy. w00t. Yeah people, seriously, yes, I know newegg is good, but at least shop around a bit! I mean, yes, don't use crappy fly by night websites with no support or anything. But using sites like ClubIT, zipzoomfly, and yes, newegg is in the same catagory. It's like you guys think that its in some higher class or something the way some of you talk.


Lol. Ok, rant over.


As for the comp, yeah, if you have the money, go for the 170, I mean, it just means you can OC even higher. Also, if your not going to immediatly go SLi, which I don't really recommend, get the DFI Lanparty UT nF4 Ultra D which is a great mobo. I'd suggest you go here for a good review of it. Oh, and an added benefit of that mobo, other than the insane OC abilities it has, is that it practically has its own sound card instead of being built in.

RAM, go with the Corsair XMS, just because it's so amazingly good.

Case, I'd say yeah, the P180 is really good, but as for a PSU, you really don't need more than 500 if your not doing serious OCing and SLi.

Oh, and I highly recommend the Dell 2005FPW which is a great screen. We have them at school, and there great.


DDay
April 3, 2006 12:38:22 PM

I agree with DDay629, go with Corsair XMS coz they just are the best out there right now.

500w for the PSU is definately enough. No less though.

Personally I'd go with the X1900XTX if your not going to go the SLI way but if you do, good on you.

As for the Raptors, They really are the best at the moment, just like Corsair. Any one of them will do but the 150GB is just one kickass drive man...
April 3, 2006 1:51:18 PM

Dont listen to Shadowduck, he's clueless.
I dont have any experience with DFI so cant steer you there.
I would recommend EVGA for video, they have lifetime warranty.
Save youself $50 and get an Opteron 175, its super stable, very overclockable and has twice the cache of the x24600.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103584
April 3, 2006 1:55:38 PM

lemme tell u dont get the 7900 please dont the x1900 series tend to oc much better. u wont regret it. 2nd get an opty cpu for the dfi . 3rd never get corsair memory. ocz or crucial ballistix
April 3, 2006 2:13:36 PM

get the sata2 200 or 250gb wd
April 3, 2006 3:59:57 PM

Go with:

A single 7900 GT for now, a ssecond for SLI later. More than enough speed for current games, with the ability to add a second later.

DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR motherboard for extreme overclocking.

Opteron 170, you can get 2.6 GHz at least on the very good and quiet stock cooler.

2 x 1 GB G.SKILL Extreme Series - the DDR500 will let you overclock very nicely.

Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic - takes sound calculation away from your CPU, which hands you back performance.

74GB Western Digital Raptor 10K for OS and programs, 250 GB Western Digital Caviar SE 7.2K for mass storage.

Antec TruePowerII 550W Power Supply - plenty of juice for all your stuff, lots of headroom for overclocking.

Gigabyte 3D Aurora Aluminum case w/ Window - Full-tower ATX case with 3 120mm fans, made to hold a liquid cooling system with 120mm radiator, either internally or externally.

Anything to add, people?
April 3, 2006 4:41:07 PM

I recommend the AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 processor and this DFI LanParty UT nF4 SLI-DR motherboard. Newegg.com gives it to you at about $170 plus shipping.
April 3, 2006 5:12:02 PM

Quote:
Do you already have a DVD-ROM drive too? There are some other things that you might not have and are easily overlooked.


I wasn't aware that a DVD-ROM drive is easily overclocked. Could you please tell me how to do that?

He said OVERLOOKED, not OVERCLOCKED

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April 3, 2006 5:58:16 PM

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He said OVERLOOKED, not OVERCLOCKED

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This has been noticed earlier.
April 3, 2006 6:11:57 PM

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lemme tell u dont get the 7900 please dont the x1900 series tend to oc much better. u wont regret it. 2nd get an opty cpu for the dfi . 3rd never get corsair memory. ocz or crucial ballistix

Are you kidding me Corsair memory is some of the best you can get.
April 3, 2006 6:18:30 PM

Corsair isn't made for overclocking, which is what I believe kais was talking about. OCZ is good OC'ing memory, but if you can afford it I suggest some nice high-end Crucial. Expensive, but has near-unlimited overclocking headroom.
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