Stumbled across some SuperPi scores for a conroe, scored 21.4 seconds and that was for the 2.4ghz mode, comparable to a Pentium M at 4ghz, a P4 Prescott at 7.2ghz, and an A64 at 4ghz.
Just thinkin - what performance would we see at 2.93ghz or 3.33ghz?
And as for the AMD fanboys there im already expecting you to post replys saying how fake the benchmarks are and whatever - its expected from such fanboy low life - enjoy.
Oh an did you year - AMD's 65nm Could come as late as next year - that means a limit of ~3ghz for AMD's 90nm design, a sad time for AMD if it does take that long.
*waits for AMD to drop prices to get a bargain AMD*
Stumbled across some SuperPi scores for a conroe, scored 21.4 seconds and that was for the 2.4ghz mode, comparable to a Pentium M at 4ghz, a P4 Prescott at 7.2ghz, and an A64 at 4ghz.
Just thinkin - what performance would we see at 2.93ghz or 3.33ghz?
And as for the AMD fanboys there im already expecting you to post replys saying how fake the benchmarks are and whatever - its expected from such fanboy low life - enjoy.
Oh an did you year - AMD's 65nm Could come as late as next year - that means a limit of ~3ghz for AMD's 90nm design, a sad time for AMD if it does take that long.
*waits for AMD to drop prices to get a bargain AMD*
It's interesting to see how this "Conroe" does 75%+ better in SuperPI, but in the Intel Benchmarks, it only did up to 20%. Hmm...
Stumbled across some SuperPi scores for a conroe, scored 21.4 seconds and that was for the 2.4ghz mode, comparable to a Pentium M at 4ghz, a P4 Prescott at 7.2ghz, and an A64 at 4ghz.
Just thinkin - what performance would we see at 2.93ghz or 3.33ghz?
And as for the AMD fanboys there im already expecting you to post replys saying how fake the benchmarks are and whatever - its expected from such fanboy low life - enjoy.
Oh an did you year - AMD's 65nm Could come as late as next year - that means a limit of ~3ghz for AMD's 90nm design, a sad time for AMD if it does take that long.
*waits for AMD to drop prices to get a bargain AMD*
Dude you sound like a little kid. AMD is not going anywhere and probably WON'T drop their prices in response to chip that is not available. I hope Intel/AMD doesn't look like Cyrix/Intel anymore but this is ridiculous. AMD is the second CPU producer, not some fly by night operation run by drunks.
Just like Chartered magically popped 65nm out of their asses, AMD will not just "go away." 20% on AM2 X2/FX with process tweaks and 1066 DDR2 with low latencies. OCZs newest DDR2 will soup the mem ctrlr like putting a jet engine on a turbo prop plane. Don't say I didn't tell you. months ago.
Going by physical performance, if it takes a 4GHz AMD64 to get 21s and a 7GHz P4 to get 21s, and supposedly a 2.4GHz "Conroe" gets 21s, and it's only a glorified P3/PM, you're telling me to believe that? Okay, maybe I am a f*cking fanboy idiot, but no way in hell can tell me that is true. If I saw a new AMD K8L @ 2.4GHz getting that, I'd call BS as well, there's no physical way that @ 2.4GHz got 21s in SuperPI 1M. If that's true, that would mean the 2.66GHz @ IDF would be like a 8GHz P4, but how come it didn't beat the sh!t out of the @$$ of the "FX-62"? Exactly, that is the biggest BS of XtremeSystems ever seen, even die-hard fanboys have to call BS on this.
Well I've never used superpi but I do know a little about it. Dothan apparently tops the 1m scores because of its 2mb cache, conroe does have 4mb which can be used by one core. The checksum matches as well, not that I know if that makes any sort of difference.
Well I've never used superpi but I do know a little about it. Dothan apparently tops the 1m scores because of its 2mb cache, conroe does have 4mb which can be used by one core. The checksum matches as well, not that I know if that makes any sort of difference.
I don't doubt SOMETHING got 21s, but it sure as hell wasn't a 2.4GHz Conroe, I don't care if it had 1GB of L2 Cache.
I'd call BS as well, there's no physical way that @ 2.4GHz got 21s in SuperPI 1M. If that's true, that would mean the 2.66GHz @ IDF would be like a 8GHz P4, but how come it didn't beat the sh!t out of the @$$ of the "FX-62"?
Glad we agree; I'm sure the Conroe will be fast, but there's no way a 2.4GHz conroe can do 1M Super PI in 21 seconds.
Stumbled across some SuperPi scores for a conroe, scored 21.4 seconds and that was for the 2.4ghz mode, comparable to a Pentium M at 4ghz, a P4 Prescott at 7.2ghz, and an A64 at 4ghz.
Just thinkin - what performance would we see at 2.93ghz or 3.33ghz?
And as for the AMD fanboys there im already expecting you to post replys saying how fake the benchmarks are and whatever - its expected from such fanboy low life - enjoy.
Oh an did you year - AMD's 65nm Could come as late as next year - that means a limit of ~3ghz for AMD's 90nm design, a sad time for AMD if it does take that long.
*waits for AMD to drop prices to get a bargain AMD*
It's interesting to see how this "Conroe" does 75%+ better in SuperPI, but in the Intel Benchmarks, it only did up to 20%. Hmm...
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I see your point but, Intel didn't use super pi in their benchmark testing. What caught my eye the most is the voltage.
We'll just have to wait and see when they come out just how well they do. Anything is better at this point than Intels current technology you gotta at least admit that.
I'd call BS as well, there's no physical way that @ 2.4GHz got 21s in SuperPI 1M. If that's true, that would mean the 2.66GHz @ IDF would be like a 8GHz P4, but how come it didn't beat the sh!t out of the @$$ of the "FX-62"?
Glad we agree; I'm sure the Conroe will be fast, but there's no way a 2.4GHz conroe can do 1M Super PI in 21 seconds.
Yes, Conroe will definately be a good chip, but that fake SuperPI crap from Fanboy sites like KiddySystems.org is starting flaming that is unnecessary and down right BS.
@Lumi: I realize that, but 2 things got my attention:
1) If that score is due to the 4MB L2 Cache, than "Conroe" itself ISN'T the good chip, it's just due to it's cache
2) A revamped P3/PM can beat a K8 clock-for-clock by that much? No way.
I am no way saying Conroe will suck, but it's not THAT good, and there's no way anybody can contest it.
1) If that score is due to the 4MB L2 Cache, than "Conroe" itself ISN'T the good chip, it's just due to it's cache
Well dothan wins the 1m benchmark because of its cache, once you go higher the K8 is meant to win. Since there are no benchmarksdoing >1m we can't say.
1) If that score is due to the 4MB L2 Cache, than "Conroe" itself ISN'T the good chip, it's just due to it's cache
Well dothan wins the 1m benchmark because of its cache, once you go higher the K8 is meant to win. Since there are no benchmarksdoing >1m we can't say.
So if we go by the Theory of Cache, once AMD uses Z-RAM/L3 Cache, it will skyrocket above Conroe? For some reason, that theory bounces off of me....
Its possible, such chips don't exist and details are still thin with Z-RAM and the L3 cache.
I just can't see Cache being the reason it did so well, I could see maybe it getting 28-29s due to Cache and new architecture if it was @ 2.66GHz, but 2.4GHz and 21s? Last time I checked, Hell wasn't blue.
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