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April 7, 2006 4:24:31 PM

CURRENT PC SPECS:
CASE: Thermaltake Tsunami VA3000BWA Black w/window
MOBO: Asus A8N32-SLi Deluxe
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800 ADA4800CDBOX
RAM: Corsair TWINX2048-3500LLPRO
PSU: Tagan TG580-U22 580W 2Force SLi
DVD: NEC ND-4550ABK DVD±RW Black
FLOPPY: Mitsumi 7 in 1 Internal Media and Floppy Drive Black
HDD: Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD
GRAPHICS: Asus GeForce EN7900GTX 512MB

FUTURE PC SPECS:
CASE: Thermaltake Tsunami VA3000BWA Black w/window
MOBO: SOCKET AM2
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+
RAM: FUTURE DDR2 MEMORY
PSU: Tagan TG580-U22 580W 2Force SLi
DVD: NEC ND-4550ABK DVD±RW Black
FLOPPY: Mitsumi 7 in 1 Internal Media and Floppy Drive Black
HDD: Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD OR HIBRID HARD DRIVE
GRAPHICS: DX10 SUPPORT,GDDR4 AND WITH AT LEAST 512MB

So should i wait for the future pc or just go and buy the current pc? I have no problem waiting and the money is not a problem.

p.s. If intel new cpu's are better than amd new cpu's then i will buy intel cpu

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April 7, 2006 4:33:08 PM

Could have just said:

MD Athlon 64 X2 4800 vs AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+

This is the CPU section.. :lol: 
April 7, 2006 4:34:01 PM

I'll "dispose" of your old computer for free. I think you'd be wasting your money to even think of replacing your currenty comptuer. However, you seem to be cutting edge and spends lots of money. In terms of your future PC, it seems pretty cool and fast. I don't know if you'll see a huge increase in speed though. . .
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April 7, 2006 4:44:35 PM

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I'll "dispose" of your old computer for free. I think you'd be wasting your money to even think of replacing your currenty comptuer. However, you seem to be cutting edge and spends lots of money. In terms of your future PC, it seems pretty cool and fast. I don't know if you'll see a huge increase in speed though. . .


You forgot to read this:
"So should i wait for the future pc or just go and buy the current pc? I have no problem waiting and the money is not a problem."
April 7, 2006 4:48:11 PM

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You forgot to read this:
"So should i wait for the future pc or just go and buy the current pc? I have no problem waiting and the money is not a problem."


You are correct.

This poses a good question. AM2 will have more upgrade options than Socket 939 and June is fast approaching. . .
April 7, 2006 4:55:58 PM

well if you dont mind waiting I would wait. But I mean if you want it know get it. There is going to be a speed increase but I mean they come out with faster stuff every 5 seconds so It depends if you want to play games now or later. I always like now.
April 7, 2006 5:42:24 PM

Wait for conroe it should really bring down the prices and you'll be able to get a lot more for your money.

You know you want a pentium M... they kick ass. :twisted:
April 7, 2006 5:57:28 PM

Intel Conroe will be qual core or dual core?

When we should expect it to hit the stores?
April 7, 2006 5:59:19 PM

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Intel Conroe will be qual core or dual core?

When we should expect it to hit the stores?


quad core sorry..
April 7, 2006 6:08:00 PM

Hehehe Quad Core, that'l be the day :twisted:
April 7, 2006 9:26:13 PM

Conroe will be a dual core chip, Kentsfield is the quad core.
But kentsfield is further off, we're talking 2007.

Quote:
Desktops: Presler, a chip out of the Pentium 4 line, will appear in the first half of 2006, while Conroe will follow in the second half. Two PC platforms, or blueprints, are being prepped for Conroe: Averill, for corporate computers, and Bridge Creek, for home computers.


My guess is sometime this summer/fall.

BTW what's your current computer?
April 7, 2006 10:00:33 PM

Please stop wasting our time. Post this in General Homebuilt forum.
April 7, 2006 10:03:06 PM

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Conroe will be a dual core chip, Kentsfield is the quad core.
But kentsfield is further off, we're talking 2007.

Desktops: Presler, a chip out of the Pentium 4 line, will appear in the first half of 2006, while Conroe will follow in the second half. Two PC platforms, or blueprints, are being prepped for Conroe: Averill, for corporate computers, and Bridge Creek, for home computers.


My guess is sometime this summer/fall.

BTW what's your current computer?

mobo: ecs p4s5a/dx+ (DDR333,AGP 4X,FSB533)
cpu: p4 2GHz northwood
ram: 512MB DDR400 (2.5-3-3-7-11 @ 166MHz)
hdd: seagate 7200rpm 160GB
graphics: Asus radeon 9600XT 128MB GDDR1

my pc is dead. i can make some good upgrades but i think it's only waste of money..
April 8, 2006 1:11:43 AM

yeah this should go in general homebuilt because this isnt really talking about the CPU much
April 8, 2006 10:49:18 AM

One last question:

When does nvidia and ati plans to release dx10 cards? As i know dx10 is ready and it comes with vista beta.

I am planing to build my new pc in summer (august or september) so i need to know if ati and nvidia will release something new with dx10 support when the new athlons x2 will be out
April 8, 2006 11:48:03 AM

I would go with the current pc as dx10 is not supported by any os except windows vista which will come out at a fairly high price.also,as with any new technology,it always better to wait till all the bugs have been worked out.
April 8, 2006 6:00:11 PM

I'm pretty sure the 5200+ will be released at the same time as the 5000+

Why not get that?
April 8, 2006 8:18:05 PM

Get a new pc now. You won't get a DX10 card until vista is released, and your goign to be waiting a long time. Besides, your going to spend more when the computer comes out because it will be cutting edge.

Socket 939 at its current state has all the kinks worked out already, and is in good shape. Your current computer will be no slouch compared to the other. You can always buy a new video card when they are relased. Get it now, and play games now.
April 8, 2006 8:35:34 PM

some people said to me that i should wait to build my new pc at the q1 of the 2007 when the quad cores will be out. Is this true or just bullshit? I think quad cores are going to be released after q3 of 2007.

p.s. I don't want to build a new pc in summer and after some months hear that quad cores are out in stores :!:
April 8, 2006 10:11:45 PM

If you have infinite amounts of money, what do you care for the opinions of us mere mortals?
April 8, 2006 10:38:36 PM

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If you have infinite amounts of money, what do you care for the opinions of us mere mortals?


I don't have infinite amounts of money but i want to build a pc that it will play games well for 2 years with only changing graphics cards and ram. Thats why i want to know if quad core are going to be released in q1 2007.

To be honest i am afraid that when quad cores comes out and games support them then dual cores will be like what p4 2GHz now is.

I need some advices about how the near future will be like...

sorry for my english i hope you understand what i am trying to say...
April 8, 2006 11:22:36 PM

if you are looking for a complete system that will support dx10 games then that will not happen until next year (when vista is released). am2 technology will not prove to be a huge improvement over current technology, but amd 65nm processors will be (also available next year). perhaps that is also when quad-core processors will become available?
April 8, 2006 11:38:43 PM

Intel Conroe will be qual core or dual core?

Oh sure. Quad core Intel inside. Probable recommended minimum power supply 2 kilowatt, with 14 fans and a phase change cooling unit. They'll insist it get it's own circuit breaker line.

I've had 10 Intel cpu's and 5 AMD's, and the AMD's kick Intel's butt sideways. And so far they've way outlived the Intels, oc'd or not. And they use less power and run cooler. Dell sucks, and they use Intel only. 'Nuff said.
April 9, 2006 12:10:20 PM

Most important question for Vista and dual core:

This question is for those who have an amd x2 4600+ or 4800+ or fx60 cpu.

When you play a game like battlefield2 in windows vista beta how much cpu usage do you get from task manager :?: :?: :?:

I am asking this because with a p4 3.2GHz HT,corsair 2GB 3500llpro and asus x800xt we tried to play battlefield2 in windows vista and the result was full cpu usage and 1.8GB PF Usage.

is there any big diference with dual cores???
April 9, 2006 4:39:31 PM

Microsoft says that dual cores will be the best choice for vista but who trust mirosoft?? I really need to know from you (people with dual core cpu) what is your conclusions about vista and dual core cpus

If someone have a dual core cpu and vista runing please reply..
April 10, 2006 2:16:17 AM

The reason they say that is because winodows vista is a major resource hog.
Just try the beta, and you'll see why for yourself.

We just got core duo 2.8 processor in our labs... ohh are they fast. I want one! :cry: 
Highly recommended!

Yes quad core cpus aka kentsfield should be available Q1, 2007.
They'll replace the Conroe Extreme Edition as the flagship chip.

The dx10 cards will be delayed till microsoft releases vista, so i wouldn't wait to get a dx 10 card, especially that once they're released they will be a top of the line card which means big $$$.

I personally would wait though to get a Conroe, b/c it is a beast and will bring all the AMD fan boys to tears. :twisted:
Depending on how badly you want to play current games, whats out there from intel/amd will definately work for the next 2 years, the video card will be the most stressed component of your system anyway.
You could upgrade in a year or two to a 8900 or whatever is the new dx10 card a year or two later and you'll be fine.

The thing i've learned about computers is:
Don't get the MOST expensive parts, b/c they'll be garbage in 2-4 years anyway. Get the most for your money.
April 10, 2006 3:55:35 AM

MUST RESIST TEMPTATION TO REAM THREAD STARTER A NEW ONE.

MUST....

BE...

POLITE....

EVEN...

THOUGH...

POSTER...

IS...

A...

FUXING...

IDIOT...

OK, seeing as you can only possibly buy a PC in the present market - what in blue blazes are your dribbling on about man?

Why not just say you want a TeraHertz CPU with a Bajillion PetaBytes of DDR5? FOOL!!!
April 10, 2006 6:59:52 AM

Quote:
CURRENT PC SPECS:
CASE: Thermaltake Tsunami VA3000BWA Black w/window
MOBO: Asus A8N32-SLi Deluxe
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800 ADA4800CDBOX
RAM: Corsair TWINX2048-3500LLPRO
PSU: Tagan TG580-U22 580W 2Force SLi
DVD: NEC ND-4550ABK DVD±RW Black
FLOPPY: Mitsumi 7 in 1 Internal Media and Floppy Drive Black
HDD: Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD
GRAPHICS: Asus GeForce EN7900GTX 512MB

FUTURE PC SPECS:
CASE: Thermaltake Tsunami VA3000BWA Black w/window
MOBO: SOCKET AM2
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+
RAM: FUTURE DDR2 MEMORY
PSU: Tagan TG580-U22 580W 2Force SLi
DVD: NEC ND-4550ABK DVD±RW Black
FLOPPY: Mitsumi 7 in 1 Internal Media and Floppy Drive Black
HDD: Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD OR HIBRID HARD DRIVE
GRAPHICS: DX10 SUPPORT,GDDR4 AND WITH AT LEAST 512MB

So should i wait for the future pc or just go and buy the current pc? I have no problem waiting and the money is not a problem.

p.s. If intel new cpu's are better than amd new cpu's then i will buy intel cpu


No need to upgrade to the very newest piece of hardware each time a new model comes out... It's not like you're going to neeeed to have the use of an AM2 mobo based system the very day that it comes out? Unless you're some mega rich guy, then you can have A P4 system for heating your house in winter, an A64 system for cooling your house in the summer, and an AM2 system for playing Solitaire.
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