Yeah even the "slow" 4X bus is not saturated... makes me wonder why people think AGP is teh sux lol I know everything is going to PCIe but when AGP was new you could get realy good PCI cards for a looong time and in fact you can still get decent PCI video cards. I think they are just trying to force an upgrade and since ATI and Nvidia make chipsets now... I wonder how long untill PCIe is replaced ?