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April 8, 2006 10:26:59 PM

I have a Packard Bell Imedia 1402 PC which comes with a GA-8SIML-NF7 motherboard. When pressing the power button to start the machine up, it IMMEDIATELY begins a rapid beeping sound. The beeps are very quick and continuous (i.e. every half a second and goes on forever) and the power and IDE LEDs appear to flash in time to the beep. A small LED on the motherboard also does this. All fans are running, but no output shows on the monitor, just the 'no signal' box flashing on and off. The only way I can power down afterwards is to switch off at the plug.

Unfortunately I have no idea what the machine was like prior to this problem or what may have triggered it off.

I was just wondering if the beeping means there is a problem with the board?
April 9, 2006 12:50:49 AM

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I have a Packard Bell Imedia 1402 PC which comes with a GA-8SIML-NF7 motherboard. When pressing the power button to start the machine up, it IMMEDIATELY begins a rapid beeping sound. The beeps are very quick and continuous (i.e. every half a second and goes on forever) and the power and IDE LEDs appear to flash in time to the beep. A small LED on the motherboard also does this. All fans are running, but no output shows on the monitor, just the 'no signal' box flashing on and off. The only way I can power down afterwards is to switch off at the plug.

Unfortunately I have no idea what the machine was like prior to this problem or what may have triggered it off.

I was just wondering if the beeping means there is a problem with the board?



Sounds like your system cannot detect the VGA or RAM.

Check to see the your VGA and RAM are seated properly.

Also Please post your full specs.

Thanks! :-D


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Let memtest86 run overnight ( 8 - 12 hours ).

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April 9, 2006 12:07:02 PM

Thanks for the reply linux_0. This motherboard has integrated graphics and no card, so it can't be that. I have also replaced the memory with a different stick that I know to be fully working and tried swapping banks, but this makes no difference whatsoever.

The specs of this system are:

Gigabyte GA-8SIML-NF7 (Columbia VP) motherboard
Intel Celeron D Model 335
256MB Kingston DDR400 RAM, CL3
80GB Seagate IDE HDD

The memory I swapped with is a Crucial 1GB DDR400 CL3 stick.

I have also tried clearing CMOS but still no difference.

Any other possibilities or is it looking like a dead board?
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April 9, 2006 2:38:35 PM

Just had another look at it actually, taken everything apart and put back one by one, still no difference. Also tried it on a known working power supply, exact same problem so not that. I've ruled out the memory, so that leaves the CPU or motherboard itself. The CPU looks OK, but I guess thats not very helpful. I need to test it in another machine, unfortunately I don't have access to one.

One thing I did notice, despite the official Packard Bell website listing the BIOS as AMI BIOS, it is actually a Phoenix BIOS. As far as I know Phoenix don't do continuous short beeps. And also, when I connected to a different power supply, the power supply was still connected to a case fan in another machine which has decorative LEDS. They too began flashing in time to the beeps! So I am begining to think its a motherboard power thing. It is turning itself on and off in quick succession, which explains why I'm only getting single continuous beeps and flashing LEDs. I don't think a CPU would cause this?
April 9, 2006 4:05:20 PM

Thanks for the links, no sign of any capacitor damage.

The beeps I am hearing are not listed for the Pheonix BIOS. It is a short beep that repeats forever, no long and short beeps or anything like that.

Like I said though, if the motherboard is tuning itself on and off every half a second it would explain why only one repeated beep is heard.
April 9, 2006 5:02:22 PM

That's very strange.

Do you have a camera you can use to take pictures or shoot some video?
April 9, 2006 9:21:46 PM

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That's very strange.

Do you have a camera you can use to take pictures or shoot some video?


OK, here it is, a small movie of the problem:-

Beep, beep, beep, beep....etc

12MB download, so be patient if you have a crappy connection.
April 10, 2006 8:39:25 AM

Quote:
That's very strange.

Do you have a camera you can use to take pictures or shoot some video?


OK, here it is, a small movie of the problem:-

Beep, beep, beep, beep....etc

12MB download, so be patient if you have a crappy connection.


Thanks for the video :-D

It could be something else but at this point I strongly suspect it's the motherboard.

Sorry looks like you need a new board :-(
April 10, 2006 8:41:28 AM

I thought so....at least its not my machine so I don't have to pay for it! :D 

Thanks for all your help anyway. :) 
April 10, 2006 9:28:59 AM

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I thought so....at least its not my machine so I don't have to pay for it! :D 

Thanks for all your help anyway. :) 



Well I dunno if this is good news or not but the owner of the system should be able to get a new board for about $50 or about 25 GBP.

Maybe one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=EN...

Too bad newegg doesn't ship to the UK :-(

Good luck :-D
April 10, 2006 9:35:06 AM

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I thought so....at least its not my machine so I don't have to pay for it! :D 

Thanks for all your help anyway. :) 



Well I dunno if this is good news or not but the owner of the system should be able to get a new board for about $50 or about 25 GBP.

Maybe one of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Submit=EN...

Too bad newegg doesn't ship to the UK :-(

Good luck :-D

Don't worry about it, plenty of places in the UK I can get it cheap! :D 
April 18, 2006 2:06:15 PM

I found this thread and site when looking for a answer to my same problem no single to the monitor and the beeps. It is also a PB imedia 1420 are all boards on these the same as i dont know what type mine is.

Can you post the link to the replacement board you would recomend as i dont know much about them and dont want to get the wrong one. I'm in the uk

Sorry if this sounds dumb but i'm learning as i go along so any help is welcome.
April 18, 2006 2:31:50 PM

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I found this thread and site when looking for a answer to my same problem no single to the monitor and the beeps. It is also a PB imedia 1420 are all boards on these the same as i dont know what type mine is.

Can you post the link to the replacement board you would recomend as i dont know much about them and dont want to get the wrong one. I'm in the uk

Sorry if this sounds dumb but i'm learning as i go along so any help is welcome.


Welcome keefs. Sorry to hear you're having the same problem as I had. I actually replaced the motherboard with the following: Asus P4S800MX SE.

Although a different brand to the one already installed, it is pretty much the same, and with a new tube of thermal compound to reapply on the CPU, came to £44.14 altogether.

Good luck! :) 
April 18, 2006 2:55:33 PM

Thanks for the qucik reply you have helped me out big time.

i just ordered the same 1 cost me £66 though n.ireland shipping yet another stroke lol. All i need to do now is read up on replacing a motherboard.
April 18, 2006 3:14:35 PM

Glad to have helped.

If you have never replaced a motherboard before it can be quite difficult, make sure you know exactly what you are doing before you attempt anything.

Having said that though, all I had to do was:

Remove all wires/cables on current motherboard.

Remove CPU/RAM.

Unscrew all of the screws holding it down to the chassis and remove the board and backing plate.

Next, clean the old thermal compound off the CPU and heatsink, and reapply a fresh coat to the CPU.

Insert RAM, CPU and heatsink in new motherboard

Place new motherboard in the chassis, making sure you have also swapped the backing plates and screw down.

Next reinsert all the wires/cables. It is worth pointing out that the front panel wires (IDE/Power lights etc) are all connected in one block that is standard to Packard Bell motherboards. You will need to remove the wires from this and place them in individual blocks. Luckily I had some lying around from some old PCs. Also, there is an error on the new motherboard in that the IDE and Power pins are mislabelled. They are in fact the opposite way around.

Once everything is done and you're ready to boot up, enter the BIOS and load optimal settings and save.

Next when you boot up to XP, you might want to enter Safe Mode and remove the old motherboard drivers so they don't conflict when you install the new ones. I didn't have to do this step because whoever had the PC before me had already done this.

Good luck and don't hesitate to ask if you get stuck.
April 18, 2006 3:47:06 PM

I dont think it you board. Chances are that it might be your processor, Do you hear your optical drives revving up as soon as you start you pc, If you dont than its your Cpu. But then again it could be your bios, A constant beeping may also indicate that the small battery on your mobo is bad and needs to be replaced.
April 19, 2006 8:34:38 PM

i have the exact same system and problem.
did the new motherboard work ok and solve the problem?
thanks,john.
April 19, 2006 8:36:38 PM

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i have the exact same system and problem.
did the new motherboard work ok and solve the problem?
thanks,john.


Certainly did for me! Shame on Packard Bell for designing such a poor system!
April 19, 2006 8:42:20 PM

thanks for quick reply i will get a new motherboard and hopefully it will solve it for me also,i have tried everything else but the motherboard and cpu so i think it must be a motherboard fault,if it is i will be writing to both p/bell and gigabyte to look into it.
thanks again,john
April 19, 2006 8:45:49 PM

Good on you, but I really don't think Packard Bell have got a clue. I posted the exact same message on their official forum and it got me nowhere.
April 19, 2006 11:05:45 PM

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That's very strange.

Do you have a camera you can use to take pictures or shoot some video?


OK, here it is, a small movie of the problem:-

Beep, beep, beep, beep....etc

12MB download, so be patient if you have a crappy connection.


Thanks for the video :-D

It could be something else but at this point I strongly suspect it's the motherboard.

Sorry looks like you need a new board :-(

Is it my imagination or does anyone else hear the fan speed cycling along with the beeps and leds? That suggests to me something trying to initialize pulls the power down to failure level and it's just restarting.

Disconnect all drives and of course remove any cards. Also, pull the connectors on those usb headers running to the front of the case. A short in there ... heck look at the rear connectors too. make sure nothings damaged and causing a short.

Since you don't know any history on that sucker you may even want to try the mobo outside the case. Maybe even a screw rolled underneath.

I would also pull the reset and power switch connectors to see if it's a shorted switch there, but I doubt it would cycle so fast with those two.
April 20, 2006 5:53:18 AM

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That's very strange.

Do you have a camera you can use to take pictures or shoot some video?


OK, here it is, a small movie of the problem:-

Beep, beep, beep, beep....etc

12MB download, so be patient if you have a crappy connection.


Thanks for the video :-D

It could be something else but at this point I strongly suspect it's the motherboard.

Sorry looks like you need a new board :-(

Is it my imagination or does anyone else hear the fan speed cycling along with the beeps and leds? That suggests to me something trying to initialize pulls the power down to failure level and it's just restarting.

Disconnect all drives and of course remove any cards. Also, pull the connectors on those usb headers running to the front of the case. A short in there ... heck look at the rear connectors too. make sure nothings damaged and causing a short.

Since you don't know any history on that sucker you may even want to try the mobo outside the case. Maybe even a screw rolled underneath.

I would also pull the reset and power switch connectors to see if it's a shorted switch there, but I doubt it would cycle so fast with those two.


:-D

It's always a good idea to try the board outside the case, I usually recommend that. On a non-conductive surface of course.

It's possible it's a short but it's hard to tell.

It could very well have been the motherboard, the CPU, a short or something else.

I guess we'll have to wait for the OP to let us know.
April 20, 2006 6:47:09 AM

I remember trying all those suggestions, but still the problem continued.
April 20, 2006 6:49:37 AM

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I remember trying all those suggestions, but still the problem continued.



:-D

Was the problem resolved by getting a new motherboard?
April 20, 2006 8:23:33 AM

Absolutely! :D 
April 20, 2006 8:24:44 AM

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Absolutely! :D 



Ok great :-D Then I guess it must have been the motherboard.
June 3, 2006 12:14:33 PM

I've just found that thread while searching for the same problem. I am trying to diagnostic the PB Imedia 3358 from a nephew. It has the same mobo (rev. 3.1)

I have the same symptoms : no boot and the power led is blinking.

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Is it my imagination or does anyone else hear the fan speed cycling along with the beeps and leds? That suggests to me something trying to initialize pulls the power down to failure level and it's just restarting.


I noticed the same variation of the fan speed. The only difference from the OP's computer is that I cant hear any beep. Only a blinking power led.
I noticed that there is an on-board led (don't have the manual) that blinks at the same speed. And the power supply seems to hiss the same maner.

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Disconnect all drives and of course remove any cards. Also, pull the connectors on those usb headers running to the front of the case. A short in there ... heck look at the rear connectors too. make sure nothings damaged and causing a short.

Since you don't know any history on that sucker you may even want to try the mobo outside the case. Maybe even a screw rolled underneath.

I would also pull the reset and power switch connectors to see if it's a shorted switch there, but I doubt it would cycle so fast with those two.


I have unplugged everything from the usb connectors to card reader and hdd or dvd player. Same problem.

I have also tried to plug another power supply to check between power supply or mobo fault and I got the same result (although I used a pre-atx supply without the 4 wires plug to connect near the cpu).

Do you think it could be worth to test the cpu or memory in another computer or I can blame the motherboard directly ?

Thanks for any help.
June 3, 2006 12:26:32 PM

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Do you think it could be worth to test the cpu or memory in another computer or I can blame the motherboard directly ?

Thanks for any help.


Don't bother messing with the RAM and CPU, I would replace the motherboard outright. I tried everything before coming to the conclusion it was the motherboard.

There seems to be a lot of these particulau models failing, but whether this is because of a motherboard quality issue or they are just sensitive to voltage spikes I don't know.
June 3, 2006 6:34:21 PM

Thanks for you attention :) 
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Don't bother messing with the RAM and CPU, I would replace the motherboard outright. I tried everything before coming to the conclusion it was the motherboard.

There seems to be a lot of these particulau models failing, but whether this is because of a motherboard quality issue or they are just sensitive to voltage spikes I don't know.


I just forgot to precise one point : it seems that the computer was still functionning in the morning the day it failed, but at the next start in the afternoon it was blinking like now (yes, that person does switch on and off its computer sometimes several times a day) Did your own machine failed suddenly ?

About the onboard led : is it an onboard power led as it seems to be ? I did not found the manual of that revision's mobo.

SO, it seems I'll have to tell my nephew that his computer is dead... Too bad.
June 3, 2006 11:15:03 PM

The computer I had belonged to a friend who said he switched it off one night and the next morning it was dead, doing the beeping/flashing thing.

I'm not sure of the exact purpose of the LED on the motherboard, it is probably there to warn the engineer that power is being received.
June 6, 2006 8:05:50 AM

No, it's there to let YOU (and me) know there's power applied to the Motherboard... Be careful what you do!
June 8, 2006 9:27:57 PM

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No, it's there to let YOU (and me) know there's power applied to the Motherboard... Be careful what you do!


So. I just spent some time to test further that... scrap.

By cross-checking the devices I verified that the power supply is OK (or ssems to be) as it can supply another machine that keeps booting (celeron 1.7 GHz on a P4MAM-V MSI-6787).

With my celeron's power supply the Gigabyte is still blinking.

It seems not discutable that the mobo is dead, but to help my nephew to plan the buy of some replacement pieces I tried to diagnostic the remaining cpu and ram.

But none of them can boot the test machine. Following the mobo's specs it could work with up to PIV/celeron 3GHz (the tested cpu is a 2.8GHz celeron) and up to ddr200/266 but the PB has some ddr400.

I suppose that a ram that can work up to 400MHz should with at lesser speed but my assumption may be wrong.

BTW: I have seen that the sole gigabyte without cpu or ram continues to blink.

So I wonder if the dying mobo could have taken with her the cpu and the ram.

LordLovatt : did you replaced those parts when replacing the dead gigabyte ?
June 8, 2006 9:58:50 PM

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LordLovatt : did you replaced those parts when replacing the dead gigabyte ?


No, the parts worked fine in the new motherboard. It is possible that the failing motherboard could have damaged the CPU and RAM, but I think that would be extremely unlucky. What is happening on the test machine when you start it up? Nothing, beeps, CMOS error, etc?
June 8, 2006 10:01:45 PM

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No, it's there to let YOU (and me) know there's power applied to the Motherboard... Be careful what you do!


Don't worry, I don't work with motherboards when receiving power, honest! :)  I meant 'engineer' as in anyone working on the m/b at the time.
June 9, 2006 9:58:48 PM

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No, the parts worked fine in the new motherboard. It is possible that the failing motherboard could have damaged the CPU and RAM, but I think that would be extremely unlucky. What is happening on the test machine when you start it up? Nothing, beeps, CMOS error, etc?


With its RAM and/or CPU on my P4MAM, I just can see the fan starting but no beep or any further display. Nothing.

I have taken them at work today and I verified that the RAM is okay (or looks like) in another computer. It just seems not to be compatible with the P4MAM that can use DDR RAM up to 266MHz like my PC2100 but not the suspicious RAM that is a DDR400. I though that a RAM able to work at 400MHz could work at lower speed (I am not a hardware specialist but a programmer) but it seem that it can't. Maybe it is a bus speed problem ?

Thus, I have only the CPU (celeron 2.8GHz) to verify, but I did not dare to plug it in a computer at work to try :? I don't know (if it is still ok) why doesn't it work with my mobo as it should work up to 3GHz following its specs...

Thanks anyway for your opinion :) 
November 2, 2007 9:03:11 PM

Hi guys first post here..
just wanted to say thanks for the background on this board, as i have one that is plain old dead as a doornail.
I think that replacing one of these like for like now £47 with p+p think i will follow the upgrade path that was provided many thanks again for the F8 - safe mode to boot old hd, will let you know if it works.
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June 9, 2009 12:55:11 AM

i swear backard bell, must have produced systems with faulty m/boards, should get some sort of compensation for having to deal with all the inconvenience, as you would have guessed by this point i have the same problem, at first i thought it may be the power but it didnt occur to me that if there was a power fault then most likely it wouldnt even turn on and off every half a second. i thought it may be the hard drive, or the ram, but i dont see hoe it could be because i hadnt had the computer for long at the point it went wrong, broke while my mum was using it, and she not the brightest of people wit computers, lol. i removed everything apart from cou and ram and still the same problem. when computer was healthy nothing was done that could have damaged the cpu and ram so i knew the only other logical issue was the moterboard. i just need to know where i can get one for a reasonable price. and just one more radom question, the spec for the comp is not very good, and i want to upgrade, is it worth fixing or should i take parts i want and start again from scratch.
April 3, 2011 1:29:12 PM

I just wanted to tell the internet another reason as for i have encountered this problem and manged to get windows booted!!!

i encountered this problem with a custom build computer using a GA-P55-USB3 mother board with a intel core i5 750.
after updating the bios to F9 i encounted rapid short beeps that happen so fast it sounds continuous. since this was a new bios and my hardware does not seem dead i cleared the cmos and for some reason it posted.

I think the problem was my CPU was over volted and too high clocked. If anyone in the future has this problem try clearingthe CMOS and once their go into voltage settings and DISABLE load line calibration as this is a auto overvolting ur computer.

THATS ALL :)  HOPE ANYONE IN THE FUTURE WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS DEAT THREAD
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