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April 10, 2006 8:55:05 PM

WOW. Now this is what I call astounding news that will STFU of all those Intel ****. :twisted:
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The conclusion is: clock for clock, Athlon 64 will beat Conroe in real application environments that require a working set of larger than 4MB, or in other words, larger than Conroe's 4MB cache. This means in any real multi-tasking or server environment the Core architecture will be an underdog. Even worse, for Intel's shared cache architecture, cache thrashing is a distinct possibility under heavy server loads.


Once again, Intel saying half of the thruth and playing nasty with benchmarks results.
Shame on you Intel. :x

Rad the whole thing here:
http://sharikou.blogspot.com/
April 10, 2006 8:57:44 PM

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WOW. Now this is what I call astounding news that will STFU of all those Intel ****. :twisted:

Once again, Intel saying half of the thruth and playing nasty with benchmarks results.
Shame on you Intel. :x

Rad the whole thing here:
http://sharikou.blogspot.com/


I'll be faster than Action Man....
Get a new keyboard!

edit,
:( 

Action man is so fast giving advices for new keyboards....

Anyway it is blogs from AMD fanboy without a clue
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April 10, 2006 10:56:56 PM

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WOW. Now this is what I call astounding news that will STFU of all those Intel ****. :twisted:
The conclusion is: clock for clock, Athlon 64 will beat Conroe in real application environments that require a working set of larger than 4MB, or in other words, larger than Conroe's 4MB cache. This means in any real multi-tasking or server environment the Core architecture will be an underdog. Even worse, for Intel's shared cache architecture, cache thrashing is a distinct possibility under heavy server loads.


Once again, Intel saying half of the thruth and playing nasty with benchmarks results.
Shame on you Intel. :x

Rad the whole thing here:
http://sharikou.blogspot.com/

The most hillarious part is all these "Conroe" and "AM2" "Benchmarks" claiming to use "Rev F" and saying "Conroe @ 2.4 gets blah blah in blah blah", it's quite humurous, specially from AnandIntel and IntelSystems.org (Also known as KiddySystems.org to REAL overclockers). Can't wait for the chips to be released and we see 2GHz AMD64's going toe-to-toe against a 2.66GHz "Conroe" (Intel will never release a 3.33, if you care to know why, PM me respectfully and I will respectfully reply).

LOL imagine 64-bit computing w/ a Conrad, LOL this otta be a great time for Intel Fanboys to start putting their tails between their legs and running away, before any real damage happens to your ego's....lol

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 10, 2006 11:34:15 PM

I believe the real Conroe will be benchmarked by a real online magazine, very shortly. Then we can see what really happens.
Too bad I can't change my alias name to "The Doctor".
April 10, 2006 11:36:17 PM

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I believe the real Conroe will be benchmarked by a real online magazine, very shortly. Then we can see what really happens.
Too bad I can't change my alias name to "The Doctor".


Benchmarks are going to lie, plain and simple. What needs to happen is use Multi-Tasking and Server Workload/Workstation Workload benchmarks to have a million things happening at once to test the efficiency of the Unified L2 Cache and Conroe, running SuperPI is going to be best for a Conroe, but doesn't prove it's real-world performance for the End-Users.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 12:07:22 AM

Benchmarks should provide some kind of difference.

Thats almost saying looking at benchmarks, with AMD performance is a lie.

I agree some will like to be a marketing tool. But theres got to be a simple benchie to measure performace to an extent.

But to have a million things happen on a machine, isn't going to be an end users everyday experience.

Perhaps a enterprise server(especially if there is only 1).. yes.
April 11, 2006 12:09:54 AM

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Benchmarks should provide some kind of difference.

Thats almost saying looking at benchmarks, with AMD performance is a lie.

I agree some will like to be a marketing tool. But theres got to be a simple benchie to measure performace to an extent.

But to have a million things happen on a machine, isn't going to be an end users everyday experience.

Perhaps a enterprise server(especially if there is only 1).. yes.


So you don't listen to Tunez and open iexplore.exe (or other web browser) at once? You just do one...finish, close the app, than open the other? Some how I doubt that. I said Multi-Tasking benchmarks show performance in real-world, and only those. Otherwise, you're showing me 4MB Cache beats 1MB, and we already know that.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 12:14:18 AM

LOL nope.. don't use Tunez.. I have explore to open in the same window. I use fire fox, so it stays all in one window with tabs.

I don't like to run too much on MS OS. Now the task bar, I may run ypops, folding, some other stuff, but I wouldn't open the same thing 2-10 times.

Linux on the other hand, I find myself opening up too man fricken windows (reminds me of my 1st mac experience :lol: ) As well as terminals. But I like Konsole with its tabs :) 
April 11, 2006 12:15:45 AM

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LOL nope.. don't use Tunez.. I have explore to open in the same window. I use fire fox, so it stays all in one window with tabs.

I don't like to run too much on MS OS. Now the task bar, I my run ypops, folding, some other stuff, but I wouldn't open the same thing 2-10 times.

Linux on the other hand, I find myself opening up too man fricken windows (reminds me of my 1st mac experience :lol: ) As well as terminals. But I like Konsole with its tabs :) 


By Tunez I mean MUSIC, not iTunez. Everybody Multi-Tasks, and my point is Conroe will not perform in Multi-Tasking, and once Real-World Benchmarks are released, we will see proof.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 12:21:13 AM

LOL sorry.. I DON'T PLAY MUSIC MUCH ON MY PC... that is why I have a stereo in my room.

But I know, I see where your coming from, though like you said, we will see. :D 
April 11, 2006 12:28:27 AM

conroe will be a good, compatible platform with good performance.

that's it...

it will do as much as a dual core Pentium-M with twice the cache and ... at higher clock...

and nothing more...

if there's something more to know, it will be known AFTER the release.

congrats to intel, they've put two pentium-M together and rainsed the clocking... completely expectable.
two prescott together ??? GOSH... how much heat does the 965EE ???

Intel recommends a 600-watt power supply for the Extreme Edition 965

was it THAT BAD ??

no... seriously, amd NEEDED something new to beat...
April 11, 2006 12:32:22 AM

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Die.


Likewise Chief.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 12:41:19 AM

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I enjoy watching those roll down stairs...too bad I have an Apartment :( .

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 12:51:51 AM

get a new CPU

action ( nuff ) man said



OH NO !!!....

not the keyboard thing ???
i just got a new one ... not again ?


Some people are like slinkies ???
man, get a new signature
April 11, 2006 12:55:29 AM

Why do I need a cpu? My venice delivers.

Shut up and away you lame fanboy.
April 11, 2006 12:56:43 AM

May I cry? or just laught?
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April 11, 2006 1:12:40 AM

Skin of my rinky dinky dink, skin of my rinky do...

Oh, 4MB files? Wow, I thought games consisted of a rapid exchange of much smaller files? You rule!
April 11, 2006 1:13:54 AM

i'm just laughing at intel...
if amd weren't there, prescott WOULD have reached 5ghz next year...
they would have stayed with their current architecture and telling everybody it couldn't be better...

intel is a company which wouldn't change anything unless they're losing everything...

the lawsuit has shown things intel can't afford to continue...
they must now find something new to regain the crown.
they can't buy exclusivity from principal builder ?

so they start giving benchmarks of something better, overperforming while advertising lower prices on release...
now THAT is something interesting...
intel is willing to decrease the market share while amd is still small.

that's it or else did they spent that much on the "so said" builders corruption ?... i don't think so...

they want to counter the bad image amd had given them with the lawsuit.

so... intel alone is nothing, amd alone is nothing, they just keep pushing each other to get better results...

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now conroe = 2x P-M higher clock/fsb, shared cache, SSE4, copper interconnects, more pins on the socket and more efficient marketing ???

i wanna know if i forget something
or should i start another thread only for conroe constitution?
letting action ma telling me to die like a slinky and then to buy a new keyboard ?
April 11, 2006 1:28:10 AM

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Benchmarks should provide some kind of difference.

Thats almost saying looking at benchmarks, with AMD performance is a lie.

I agree some will like to be a marketing tool. But theres got to be a simple benchie to measure performace to an extent.

But to have a million things happen on a machine, isn't going to be an end users everyday experience.

Perhaps a enterprise server(especially if there is only 1).. yes.


So you don't listen to Tunez and open iexplore.exe (or other web browser) at once? You just do one...finish, close the app, than open the other? Some how I doubt that. I said Multi-Tasking benchmarks show performance in real-world, and only those. Otherwise, you're showing me 4MB Cache beats 1MB, and we already know that.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

I multitask, to the extreme, and my P4 handles it all. I am quite pleased by the speed. It is really quick. And now you want to tell me that Conroe is gonna be no good for multitasking and real life? Go fly a kite. You're dreaming. My P4 has only 1MB cache, I think 4MB will handle all it needs to just fine. 4MB cache isn't the only change in design, nor is it really what is causing the performance increase. It's a change in design of the processor itself.

I already know what you have to say about the Conroe not being released at 3.33Ghz with a 1333Mhz bus.... and I can only say you are not very smart. How do you know that they are not going to? How do you know that they will not change the way the bus works? how do you know that they can't make the FSB work.... they are planning on doing a better job of the FSB, I know that much.
April 11, 2006 1:29:52 AM

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Benchmarks should provide some kind of difference.

Thats almost saying looking at benchmarks, with AMD performance is a lie.

I agree some will like to be a marketing tool. But theres got to be a simple benchie to measure performace to an extent.

But to have a million things happen on a machine, isn't going to be an end users everyday experience.

Perhaps a enterprise server(especially if there is only 1).. yes.


So you don't listen to Tunez and open iexplore.exe (or other web browser) at once? You just do one...finish, close the app, than open the other? Some how I doubt that. I said Multi-Tasking benchmarks show performance in real-world, and only those. Otherwise, you're showing me 4MB Cache beats 1MB, and we already know that.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

I multitask, to the extreme, and my P4 handles it all. I am quite pleased by the speed. It is really quick. And now you want to tell me that Conroe is gonna be no good for multitasking and real life? Go fly a kite. You're dreaming. My P4 has only 1MB cache, I think 4MB will handle all it needs to just fine. 4MB cache isn't the only change in design, nor is it really what is causing the performance increase. It's a change in design of the processor itself.

I already know what you have to say about the Conroe not being released at 3.33Ghz with a 1333Mhz bus.... and I can only say you are not very smart. How do you know that they are not going to? How do you know that they will not change the way the bus works? how do you know that they can't make the FSB work.... they are planning on doing a better job of the FSB, I know that much.

P4 = Seperate 1MB (or 2MB) Level 2 Cache Per Core
Conroe = Unified L2 Cache For Core's

See, you're kinda dumb too...

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 1:30:35 AM

Wow, this is some serious grasping at straws.
April 11, 2006 1:32:49 AM

LOL... what ever happen to wait and see?
April 11, 2006 1:32:59 AM

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Wow, this is some serious grasping at straws.


Word.
April 11, 2006 1:41:01 AM

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Benchmarks should provide some kind of difference.

Thats almost saying looking at benchmarks, with AMD performance is a lie.

I agree some will like to be a marketing tool. But theres got to be a simple benchie to measure performace to an extent.

But to have a million things happen on a machine, isn't going to be an end users everyday experience.

Perhaps a enterprise server(especially if there is only 1).. yes.


So you don't listen to Tunez and open iexplore.exe (or other web browser) at once? You just do one...finish, close the app, than open the other? Some how I doubt that. I said Multi-Tasking benchmarks show performance in real-world, and only those. Otherwise, you're showing me 4MB Cache beats 1MB, and we already know that.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

I multitask, to the extreme, and my P4 handles it all. I am quite pleased by the speed. It is really quick. And now you want to tell me that Conroe is gonna be no good for multitasking and real life? Go fly a kite. You're dreaming. My P4 has only 1MB cache, I think 4MB will handle all it needs to just fine. 4MB cache isn't the only change in design, nor is it really what is causing the performance increase. It's a change in design of the processor itself.

I already know what you have to say about the Conroe not being released at 3.33Ghz with a 1333Mhz bus.... and I can only say you are not very smart. How do you know that they are not going to? How do you know that they will not change the way the bus works? how do you know that they can't make the FSB work.... they are planning on doing a better job of the FSB, I know that much.

P4 = Seperate 1MB (or 2MB) Level 2 Cache Per Core
Conroe = Unified L2 Cache For Core's

See, you're kinda dumb too...

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

thanks for the compliment. It really helps me understand things better. :roll:

you can't wait and see, you are 100% sure it's gonna fail already. Boy oh boy am I ever gonna laugh at you when Conroe @3.33Ghz comes out.
April 11, 2006 1:43:47 AM

Quote:
Benchmarks should provide some kind of difference.

Thats almost saying looking at benchmarks, with AMD performance is a lie.

I agree some will like to be a marketing tool. But theres got to be a simple benchie to measure performace to an extent.

But to have a million things happen on a machine, isn't going to be an end users everyday experience.

Perhaps a enterprise server(especially if there is only 1).. yes.


So you don't listen to Tunez and open iexplore.exe (or other web browser) at once? You just do one...finish, close the app, than open the other? Some how I doubt that. I said Multi-Tasking benchmarks show performance in real-world, and only those. Otherwise, you're showing me 4MB Cache beats 1MB, and we already know that.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

I multitask, to the extreme, and my P4 handles it all. I am quite pleased by the speed. It is really quick. And now you want to tell me that Conroe is gonna be no good for multitasking and real life? Go fly a kite. You're dreaming. My P4 has only 1MB cache, I think 4MB will handle all it needs to just fine. 4MB cache isn't the only change in design, nor is it really what is causing the performance increase. It's a change in design of the processor itself.

I already know what you have to say about the Conroe not being released at 3.33Ghz with a 1333Mhz bus.... and I can only say you are not very smart. How do you know that they are not going to? How do you know that they will not change the way the bus works? how do you know that they can't make the FSB work.... they are planning on doing a better job of the FSB, I know that much.

P4 = Seperate 1MB (or 2MB) Level 2 Cache Per Core
Conroe = Unified L2 Cache For Core's

See, you're kinda dumb too...

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

thanks for the compliment. It really helps me understand things better. :roll:

you can't wait and see, you are 100% sure it's gonna fail already. Boy oh boy am I ever gonna laugh at you when Conroe @3.33Ghz comes out.

Yea...Am I'm gonna laugh when it's $2,000, uses 45nm, and gets beat by a 3GHz AMD64 w/ 90nm.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 1:46:46 AM

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I multitask, to the extreme, and my P4 handles it all. I am quite pleased by the speed. It is really quick. And now you want to tell me that Conroe is gonna be no good for multitasking and real life? Go fly a kite. You're dreaming. My P4 has only 1MB cache, I think 4MB will handle all it needs to just fine. 4MB cache isn't the only change in design, nor is it really what is causing the performance increase. It's a change in design of the processor itself.

I already know what you have to say about the Conroe not being released at 3.33Ghz with a 1333Mhz bus.... and I can only say you are not very smart. How do you know that they are not going to? How do you know that they will not change the way the bus works? how do you know that they can't make the FSB work.... they are planning on doing a better job of the FSB, I know that much.


P4 = Seperate 1MB (or 2MB) Level 2 Cache Per Core
Conroe = Unified L2 Cache For Core's

See, you're kinda dumb too...

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

thanks for the compliment. It really helps me understand things better. :roll:

you can't wait and see, you are 100% sure it's gonna fail already. Boy oh boy am I ever gonna laugh at you when Conroe @3.33Ghz comes out.

Yea...Am I'm gonna laugh when it's $2,000, uses 45nm, and gets beat by a 3GHz AMD64 w/ 90nm.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

man I can't believe you are such a fanboy idiot. IT IS SCHEDULED TO COME OUT AT $500. Hello? Reality check! if it comes out with 45nm it sure as heck won't get beaten by any 90nm AMD. Anybody with half a brain knows that.
April 11, 2006 1:48:31 AM

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I multitask, to the extreme, and my P4 handles it all. I am quite pleased by the speed. It is really quick. And now you want to tell me that Conroe is gonna be no good for multitasking and real life? Go fly a kite. You're dreaming. My P4 has only 1MB cache, I think 4MB will handle all it needs to just fine. 4MB cache isn't the only change in design, nor is it really what is causing the performance increase. It's a change in design of the processor itself.

I already know what you have to say about the Conroe not being released at 3.33Ghz with a 1333Mhz bus.... and I can only say you are not very smart. How do you know that they are not going to? How do you know that they will not change the way the bus works? how do you know that they can't make the FSB work.... they are planning on doing a better job of the FSB, I know that much.


P4 = Seperate 1MB (or 2MB) Level 2 Cache Per Core
Conroe = Unified L2 Cache For Core's

See, you're kinda dumb too...

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

thanks for the compliment. It really helps me understand things better. :roll:

you can't wait and see, you are 100% sure it's gonna fail already. Boy oh boy am I ever gonna laugh at you when Conroe @3.33Ghz comes out.

Yea...Am I'm gonna laugh when it's $2,000, uses 45nm, and gets beat by a 3GHz AMD64 w/ 90nm.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

man I can't believe you are such a fanboy idiot. IT IS SCHEDULED TO COME OUT AT $500. Hello? Reality check! 65nm, hello? it's not 45nm idiot. And it sure as heck won't get beaten by any 90nm AMD. Anybody with half a brain knows that.

Well I guess you must have only a quarter of one :roll:.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 1:49:30 AM

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So you don't listen to Tunez and open iexplore.exe (or other web browser) at once? You just do one...finish, close the app, than open the other? Some how I doubt that. I said Multi-Tasking benchmarks show performance in real-world, and only those. Otherwise, you're showing me 4MB Cache beats 1MB, and we already know that.


WTF you talking about? Are you trying to tell me I need a dual core processor to surf the web and listen to MP3's at the same time? I can do that with my K6-2. Talk about the worst example of "multi-tasking" I've ever read. :roll:
April 11, 2006 1:51:04 AM

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So you don't listen to Tunez and open iexplore.exe (or other web browser) at once? You just do one...finish, close the app, than open the other? Some how I doubt that. I said Multi-Tasking benchmarks show performance in real-world, and only those. Otherwise, you're showing me 4MB Cache beats 1MB, and we already know that.


WTF you talking about? Are you trying to tell me I need a dual core processor to surf the web and listen to MP3's at the same time? I can do that with my K6-2. Talking about the worst example of "multi-tasking" I've ever read. :roll:

WTF are YOU talking about? I'm talking about Multi-Tasking using that Unified Cache, obviously you shouldn't take that as an EXAMPLE, but I guess somebody as intelligent and advanced as you must. :roll:

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 1:51:52 AM

Quote:

I multitask, to the extreme, and my P4 handles it all. I am quite pleased by the speed. It is really quick. And now you want to tell me that Conroe is gonna be no good for multitasking and real life? Go fly a kite. You're dreaming. My P4 has only 1MB cache, I think 4MB will handle all it needs to just fine. 4MB cache isn't the only change in design, nor is it really what is causing the performance increase. It's a change in design of the processor itself.

I already know what you have to say about the Conroe not being released at 3.33Ghz with a 1333Mhz bus.... and I can only say you are not very smart. How do you know that they are not going to? How do you know that they will not change the way the bus works? how do you know that they can't make the FSB work.... they are planning on doing a better job of the FSB, I know that much.


P4 = Seperate 1MB (or 2MB) Level 2 Cache Per Core
Conroe = Unified L2 Cache For Core's

See, you're kinda dumb too...

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

thanks for the compliment. It really helps me understand things better. :roll:

you can't wait and see, you are 100% sure it's gonna fail already. Boy oh boy am I ever gonna laugh at you when Conroe @3.33Ghz comes out.

Yea...Am I'm gonna laugh when it's $2,000, uses 45nm, and gets beat by a 3GHz AMD64 w/ 90nm.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

man I can't believe you are such a fanboy idiot. IT IS SCHEDULED TO COME OUT AT $500. Hello? Reality check! 65nm, hello? it's not 45nm idiot. And it sure as heck won't get beaten by any 90nm AMD. Anybody with half a brain knows that.

Well I guess you must have only a quarter of one :roll:.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

and that's all you can say. Nothing to back it up. Sounds like an idiot to me. IF they do come out with it in 45nm, it won't be beaten by any 90nm AMD. If it comes out at $750, and the AM2's are scheduled to come out with the FX-62 over $1000.... and being beaten by a $750 Conroe, I don't think it's gonna fly. Come on man, think logically.
April 11, 2006 1:56:42 AM

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WTF are YOU talking about? I'm talking about Multi-Tasking using that Unified Cache, obviously you shouldn't take that as an EXAMPLE, but I guess somebody as intelligent and advanced as you must. :roll:


So you're going to sit here with a striaght face and tell me that a Conroe will not play music and surf the web at the same time b/c it has unified cache? Get some sleep; you're starting to get REALLY dumb.
April 11, 2006 1:57:43 AM

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So you don't listen to Tunez and open iexplore.exe (or other web browser) at once? You just do one...finish, close the app, than open the other? Some how I doubt that. I said Multi-Tasking benchmarks show performance in real-world, and only those. Otherwise, you're showing me 4MB Cache beats 1MB, and we already know that.


WTF you talking about? Are you trying to tell me I need a dual core processor to surf the web and listen to MP3's at the same time? I can do that with my K6-2. Talking about the worst example of "multi-tasking" I've ever read. :roll:

WTF are YOU talking about? I'm talking about Multi-Tasking using that Unified Cache, obviously you shouldn't take that as an EXAMPLE, but I guess somebody as intelligent and advanced as you must. :roll:

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

I fail to see how this will change a multitasking situation, with a noteable fact that even with a unified cache hardware level cache control would manage it.

As well there is only a few "specialized" programs that will intentionally consume all available cache. Otherwise the OS will manage threads to accomidate. At this point it's more or less OS dependant when you are talking real world performance especially when multitasking.
April 11, 2006 2:00:34 AM

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WTF are YOU talking about? I'm talking about Multi-Tasking using that Unified Cache, obviously you shouldn't take that as an EXAMPLE, but I guess somebody as intelligent and advanced as you must. :roll:


So you're going to sit here with a striaght face and tell me that a Conroe will not play music and surf the web at the same time b/c it has unified cache? Get some sleep; you're starting to get REALLY dumb.

Oh My God...Intel Fanboys are getting stupider by the minute.... :roll:

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
a b à CPUs
April 11, 2006 2:01:24 AM

Hey Grimmy, I have good news! My P4 systems work great! My A64 systems work great! And I have a Pentium M lappy here, it works great!
April 11, 2006 2:01:25 AM

Oh no MadModMike looks like you are getting beat.Better come up with somthing quick.
April 11, 2006 2:03:05 AM

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Oh no MadModMike looks like you are getting beat.Better come up with somthing quick.


It takes 10 Intel Fanboys to match me....and 12 are online, yea...I'm getting beat.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 2:04:31 AM

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and that's all you can say. Nothing to back it up. Sounds like an idiot to me. IF they do come out with it in 45nm, it won't be beaten by any 90nm AMD. If it comes out at $750, and the AM2's are scheduled to come out with the FX-62 over $1000.... and being beaten by a $750 Conroe, I don't think it's gonna fly. Come on man, think logically.


Please try to ignore MadModMike. He gets like this everytime Anand realeases something negative on AMD. He is obviously still in denial. Just let him be.
April 11, 2006 2:05:20 AM

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and that's all you can say. Nothing to back it up. Sounds like an idiot to me. IF they do come out with it in 45nm, it won't be beaten by any 90nm AMD. If it comes out at $750, and the AM2's are scheduled to come out with the FX-62 over $1000.... and being beaten by a $750 Conroe, I don't think it's gonna fly. Come on man, think logically.


Please try to ignore MadModMike. He gets like this everytime Anand realeases something negative on AMD. He is obviously still in denial. Just let him be.

Damn, Number 13....I hope I Level Up quick enough so I can get my health and magic back.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 2:05:53 AM

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Oh no MadModMike looks like you are getting beat.Better come up with somthing quick.


It takes 10 Intel Fanboys to match me....and 12 are online, yea...I'm getting beat.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
I'm no fanboy at all.And dont think so highly of your self.
April 11, 2006 2:07:31 AM

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and that's all you can say. Nothing to back it up. Sounds like an idiot to me. IF they do come out with it in 45nm, it won't be beaten by any 90nm AMD. If it comes out at $750, and the AM2's are scheduled to come out with the FX-62 over $1000.... and being beaten by a $750 Conroe, I don't think it's gonna fly. Come on man, think logically.


Please try to ignore MadModMike. He gets like this everytime Anand realeases something negative on AMD. He is obviously still in denial. Just let him be.

So every time that happens it turns into a your a fanboy hes a fonboy debate?

Hmm interesting...
April 11, 2006 2:07:37 AM

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Oh no MadModMike looks like you are getting beat.Better come up with somthing quick.


It takes 10 Intel Fanboys to match me....and 12 are online, yea...I'm getting beat.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
I'm no fanboy at all.And dont think so highly of your self.

It's a joke friend....you know, Satire's?? :roll:

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 2:08:44 AM

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WTF are YOU talking about? I'm talking about Multi-Tasking using that Unified Cache, obviously you shouldn't take that as an EXAMPLE, but I guess somebody as intelligent and advanced as you must. :roll:


So you're going to sit here with a striaght face and tell me that a Conroe will not play music and surf the web at the same time b/c it has unified cache? Get some sleep; you're starting to get REALLY dumb.

Oh My God...Intel Fanboys are getting stupider by the minute.... :roll:

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time What are the fanboys (of ANY company) going to do if their company wins? You gonna shell out the premium for the top of the line chip? Mabey, but doubted. Got news for you all, HIGH PERFORMANCE CHIPS DON'T MAKE THE MARKET GO ROUND. High performers "win," the battles, but do they make all the sales? No, corporate enterprises and low end consumers do.
April 11, 2006 2:17:45 AM

This is ridiculous, you cant go on a thread anymore without fanboy comments being thrown around. Oh everyone guess what, i like AMD, whoop de fuckin' do... I guess im a fanboy now... shucks. Madmodmike was just saying things about Intels architecture of the conroe processor. Next thing i know everyone is getting offended and getting all emotional over text... think about this now. Setting that aside, anyone in here heard about corsairs new pc28500 memory comming out and the new pc 4400 memory?
April 11, 2006 2:21:11 AM

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This is ridiculous, you cant go on a thread anymore without fanboy comments being thrown around. Oh everyone guess what, i like AMD, whoop de ******' do... I guess im a fanboy now... shucks. Madmodmike was just saying things about Intels architecture of the conroe processor. Next thing i know everyone is getting offended and getting all emotional over text... think about this now. Setting that aside, anyone in here heard about corsairs new pc28500 memory comming out and the new pc 4400 memory?


Everybody on these forums cries about text....almost like it's an AA Meeting and somebody wrecked their hopes of conforming (Kinda like that WoW Funeral, eh?). I remember back when somebody pointed out the following:

"Something you all don't realize, is MMM doesn't get mad because of Insults. He just uses that to fuel his stance on you being an Idiot" :roll:

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
April 11, 2006 2:21:25 AM

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Oh My God...Intel Fanboys are getting stupider by the minute.... :roll:


:?:
Please tell me how this is any sort of rebuttal to my challenging you about your craptastic example of multitasking.

Intel fanboy? hmmm....since when was a K6 produced by Intel? :roll:
April 11, 2006 2:23:15 AM

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This is ridiculous, you cant go on a thread anymore without fanboy comments being thrown around. Oh everyone guess what, i like AMD, whoop de ******' do... I guess im a fanboy now... shucks. Madmodmike was just saying things about Intels architecture of the conroe processor. Next thing i know everyone is getting offended and getting all emotional over text... think about this now. Setting that aside, anyone in here heard about corsairs new pc28500 memory comming out and the new pc 4400 memory?


Word
April 11, 2006 2:24:38 AM

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Oh My God...Intel Fanboys are getting stupider by the minute.... :roll:


:?:
Please tell me how this is any sort of rebuttal to my challenging you about your craptastic example of multitasking.

Intel fanboy? hmmm....since when was a K6 produced by Intel? :roll:

A buddy of mine owned a K6, he was an Intel fanboy, he refused to buy AMD because his P-M beat the K6. You owning a K6 means nothing to me Fanboy.

PS: After a thorough description and diagram specifics of K8 vs. P6, he is now the happy owner of an Athlon 64 X2 3800+.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time
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