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April 12, 2006 2:55:22 PM

I'd like to know how often you guys upgrade your GPUs? is it in every bew chip release? for example: 5900 to 6800 to 7900 nvidia cards

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April 12, 2006 3:41:43 PM

My GPU upgrade path went thusly

TNT -> TNT2ultra -> GeForce4Ti -> GeForce7800GTX

That'a about a 10 year timespan, so it looks like a few years average for myself.

Fritz
April 12, 2006 3:43:48 PM

depends on budget...and needs...when I change my system I usually got a better vga, max as I can get... as I change or add a new system every year...a new vga will be added... but now I will stay with 6800 ultra for a longer time as they could be fully converted to quadro and by now no 7 series gpu can be fully unlocked as quadro (driver will recognize as quadro with rivaturner but it do not work like quadro as 6800 gpu does work) ...
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April 12, 2006 3:46:40 PM

I replace my GPU when two factors occur at the same time:

1. I own a game I can't play at settings I find satisfactory, and

2. I can afford something that allows me to play at the settings I want


Upgrading at any other time is a waste.
April 12, 2006 3:56:07 PM

Personally I think it's best to skip generations... I went from a ATI 9600 Pro all the way up to a 7800 GTX shortly after its release... the ATI did everything I needed it to do right up until it was retired... it was getting a little weak in the gaming department but still played the games I was interested in.

Anyone who buys every current generation card is crazy... no way did I even consider buying a 7900 GTX when it was announced over 7 or 8 months after I had my card... however, I am looking ahead to the next generation cards from ATI/Nvidia.
April 12, 2006 4:05:50 PM

I agree...

I begin the upgrade shopping when i cant play a game i want to. GLquake, UT'99, first GhostRecon, anticipation of HL2/Doom3, and now FEAR all did it to me. That translates into a voodoo (cant remember, before i was into hardware...), TNT2(32meg), GeForce3ti, 9700pro, x1900xt. before the TNT2 i kinda lagged in gaming after quake. spent most of my time on C&C/red alert and really never taxed the system, lots of 2-d stuff.

That is skipping more than a generation on each step, and in the case of the 9700pro it still plays most games smooth so is still viable. I am hoping to get similar life from the 1900...
April 12, 2006 4:12:02 PM

YUP! that's wise shopping for you people out there. I have a friend who's just lucky being a trustfund baby. He buys every card he could get he's hands on he previously had an xfx 7800gt 256mb, Then the 1900xtx came out and hell! he bought it. like the performance upgrade would be like in a 5900 to a 7900gt. It's nice to know people are still using up their money's worth out there. I currently have a gecube x850xt 256 and will be replacing it in the next directx 10 cards when they're out and have good reviews
April 12, 2006 4:15:46 PM

Gotta love the 9700 PRO.

It has to be the best, longest lasting viable videocard the planet has ever seen...
April 12, 2006 4:16:12 PM

TNT2 --> GEFORCE 2 MMX 400 --> GEFORCE 6800 and thats over 5 years.
I am guessing my current Geforce 6800 will last a bit longer than the two previous cards..man did they suck but I have to recall what was available back in the day. Its really amazing how these cards have advanced to where now folks are pairing 4 amazing grahpic cards in one machine..crazy.
April 12, 2006 4:16:31 PM

I also like to skip a generation.

I have owned gefore MX 2 - Ti 4200 - 6600GT
before that I have a Voodoo 3 2000 (frickin brilliant card)

My next card will most likely be a geforce 8*** of some kind.

This has worked out at once every two years.
April 12, 2006 4:23:12 PM

Lets see, here's how my upgrade path went.

TNT (my first Real Comp)->maxtrox g400 (i loved that card)->Gforce 2 (bro bought it for me)->radeon 9000 (swapped GF2 for it)->Radeon 9800 (couldnt play ut04 that well on the 9000)->x1800xl (my a64 agp system blew up so i went pci express).

So most of my upgrades have either been free (GF2-Radeon 9000) or out of necessity (up to the x1800xl). I think this xl will be ok for a bit and then i will go for a good midrange card that is available at the time that wont destroy my bank account.
April 12, 2006 4:26:03 PM

completely... ati knocked that one out of the park, hard to follow an act that good too, hoping these x1x00s do justice to it. ;) 
April 12, 2006 4:46:47 PM

Hmmm My upgrades:

Trident 256K VLB Card :) 
Trident 1MB PCI Card
ATI Rage 4MB AGP Card
TNT2 Pro 32MB AGP Card
GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB AGP Card
Radeon AIW 9800Pro 128MB AGP Card
ATI x800XL 256MB AGP Card

These are just for my main rig(s) as it has been upgraded over the years. I've got a whole dresser drawer full of old vid cards at home though ranging from Matrox 8MB-32MB cards, FX 5200's, ATI 7000, 9250, 9550, 9600, GF4 MX's TNT's.... Too much crap to remember.
April 12, 2006 5:01:51 PM

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I'd like to know how often you guys upgrade your GPUs? is it in every bew chip release? for example: 5900 to 6800 to 7900 nvidia cards


Nope. I replace the videocard when i feel the games start getting with low frame rate in the minimum acceptable detail level (usually below 20 fps in average). Or else, if i perform a major upgrade that force me to change GPU interface (like PCI to AGP and now for PCI-E).

Nowadays i try to OC a bit the videocard so it can last a bit longer... and you have the SLI option again.

.- Luis Duarte
April 12, 2006 5:17:19 PM

Anyone considering buying a graphics card on a limited budget you should consider the fact that ATI & Nvidia bring out the new range every 6 months and as such the old cards drop in price usually at this point...

Anyway 15 years of PC's and I've had:
Trident 512k ISA -> Trident 1M ISA -> + Voodoo 1 (4M) -> Voodoo 3 3000 PCI (16M) -> Matrox Dual head AGP (32M) -> Nvidia 5700 Ultra AGP(128M)

I play most games in 1024x768 and HL2 has high frame rate, however FEAR is only good with low eye candy and Quake 4 chugs.
I would like a x1900 XTX but you try justifying that to my wife and child... I will probably not consider and upgrading till I upgrade my PC which would be early next year now...

Otherwise I think the real issue I would hold off, is the recent debate over the latest graphics card also processing the physics.

If I would buy a card now I'd go for the X850. :) 

Andy
April 12, 2006 5:30:54 PM

Once a year, unless I know something better will come if I wait another month or 2. I will hold out so I dont end up buying something I cant upgrade for another year.

ATI 7500 32M -> Geforce 2 64M (can't even remember what it was lol) -> Geforce 4 MX420 64M -> GF4 ti4200 128MB-> Geforce 5700 Ultra->Geforce 5900 Ultra-> 6800 GT AGP-> Dual 6800 GT's in SLI -> current setup dual 7800 GTX KO's in SLI

There was a 9600XT all-in-wonder in there too, for my media center but I bought back my old 6800GT from the friend I sold it to and added a tv tuner pci card. 9600 wasnt cutting it anymore but was great in its day!

I got lucky with my 7800's and am currently in the step up proggy, still waiting though :(  but at least its a free upgrade - shipping untill next upgrade, may even swing to ATI 8O

Sorry Uncle Phil, if you happen to read this :D 
a b U Graphics card
April 12, 2006 5:31:52 PM

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I replace my GPU when two factors occur at the same time:

1. I own a game I can't play at settings I find satisfactory, and

2. I can afford something that allows me to play at the settings I want

Upgrading at any other time is a waste.


Same thing here...my upgrades went in this succession: AIW 128 Pro=>Radeon 8500 64MB=>Radeon 9600 128MB=>BFG 6800GT OC

Some of the games that caused me to upgrade were Max Payne2, Wolfenstein, and Doom3...still living in AGP, not yet ready to make the jump to PCIe as I haven't found that game yet, thought it was going to be CoD2, but nope...but the again, haven't tried HL2 or FEAR yet, so...
April 12, 2006 5:36:39 PM

This is going to be fun! These are all my systems, but I usually have two at any given point. By the way my age is midtwenties just to give you perspective.

IBM 286 - Onboard
budgest 386 - Onboard
IBM 486 DX2 50mhz Onboard
Pentium 1 75mhz Onboard
Pentium 2 200mhz Onboard
Cyrix 233myz Onboard
K6-2 400mhz Onboard :) 
Athlon 800 (here we go!) Voodoo 4
Athlon xp 1000c (1.0) Geforce 4
Sempron 2800 (1.6) onboard 6100 then 7300GS
Athlon 3000 (754 venice stock 2.0 running cool at 2.5 no extra voltage) 7600GS

Now if I can only forget those days of Onboard, maybe I'll get my sanity back!
April 12, 2006 5:49:34 PM

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Gotta love the 9700 PRO.

It has to be the best, longest lasting viable videocard the planet has ever seen...


So true. I bought my Sapphire 9700pro a week after launch, and its still turning out the frames like the day I bought it.

Anywho, a little more on topic. Depending on cash flow and product realeses, I get a new GPU every 5-8 months (almost twice a year you could say)
April 12, 2006 5:52:03 PM

I usually buy new cards about every 1-2 years and whole new systems about every 3-4 years.
Such that, the video cards get leap-froged TNT2-GeForce2-ATI 9600-Nv 7800GS - (Future PCIe DX10 card)
The motherboards last longer and I usually upgrade based on sockets or slots - 440BX - i865 - (Future i965x or AM2)
Finally the Keyboards - Monitors - Printers last the longest.
15" crappy VGA - 21" CRT - 24" LCD wide.

So, spend the most on the Monitor, then the system, and no more than $350 on the video card. (even though the video card makes the biggest difference in game framerates)
April 12, 2006 5:52:26 PM

Yeah, back to topic. Sorry. Seems to me it is not worth while for most people who have a 6800/7800 cards to upgrade till the 8XXX series cards come out.
April 12, 2006 5:55:34 PM

Well, I went from mx400 to FX5600 to 9800XT to X800XT to X1800XL to 6600GT (XL blew) to X1900XTX (was posted instead of XT - dumb asses!).

From this one would reckon me buying a new gen card everytime, but being from SA I had people travelling abroad and thus due to high pricing here in SA, I was able to "import" top gcards from US at USD prices, sell my old cards at exactly what I payed to import - maybe loose the odd $20.
April 12, 2006 6:00:07 PM

It all depends if I can play certain games, If I cant then I get a new vga, it also depends upon budget. But what I want I usually get. I upgraded my Ati 9800pro>Atix1900xtx. So it al comes down , If I oc my card and push its life span until I get the funds for a new card, or just oc it until my card fries up :twisted:
April 12, 2006 6:17:25 PM

ATI 8500 64MB
ATI 9800Pro AIW 128MB
BFG 7800GS OC 256

3 upgrades in about 5 years

Hell i am still using Socket A and AGP

My next upgrade will be to a 939 chip and mobo which will be one generation behind once the AM2s come out.
a b U Graphics card
a b Î Nvidia
April 12, 2006 6:19:26 PM

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I replace my GPU when two factors occur at the same time:

1. I own a game I can't play at settings I find satisfactory, and

2. I can afford something that allows me to play at the settings I want


That sounds familiar, have you said that before? :lol: 

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Upgrading at any other time is a waste.


you're SILLY! I upgrade when there's acool new Box Cover.

first a Race Card, then A Cool Shield, then and Evil Goalie, then dark nymph, and finally a Pegasus.

Hope someone brings out someting cool pretty soon, my game play is pretty sucky right now. :twisted:
April 12, 2006 6:34:45 PM

I only have to upgrade depending on what kind of games out there. Like when my graphics card can no longer achieve great quality and performance on newer games then it is time for me to replace it. My current 7800GTX 256 SLI can play the most demanding games to date with over 60fps and high settings. Comes next year when it cannot play the latest games with high performance and quality then I would have to upgrade. :) 
April 12, 2006 6:44:57 PM

There is always something new on computers almost every 6 months,
So if you got a stable job, you can affort new equipment every 6 months :twisted:
April 12, 2006 6:46:00 PM

Pc's for every1 :twisted:
April 12, 2006 7:06:28 PM

OK , In My Generation :
Voodoo 3 2000 16Mb --> Voodoo 5 5500 AGP 64Mb ( Very Nice Card ) --> GainWard GeForce 4 MX 440 ( Very Poor ) --> Leadtek GeForce 4 Ti 4200 AGP 8X --> Sparkle GeForce FX 5900 128Mb Platinum Edition --> Leadtek A400 ( 6800 128Mb AGP 8X ) ( Not Bad ) --> And Now ! Leadtek PX7800 GT PCI-E ...
Personaly , I Upgrade My Video Card When I Can Afford A Better Card , No Matter How Much Performance Difference Is Between The New Card & The Old One ... For Example : I Only Had My FX 5900 For A Month Before I Changed It To Leadtek A400 ... Money Is The Matter :twisted:
April 12, 2006 7:28:08 PM

ATI Xpert@Play 98 -> 2 x Voodoo 2 (12 MB) -> GF2 MX -> GF3 Ti200 -> GF4 Ti4200 -> ATI 9800 Pro -> ATI X850XT PE ....

I change my card approximately every 2 years.
April 12, 2006 7:37:40 PM

Well I am new to the gaming on a pc thing; I just built my first system a little over a year ago. I had $200 for my vid card and I got a ati x700pro.

What I am planning to do is run this pc into the ground (hope to get 4 maybe 5 years out of it playing games). I figure that is stretching it a lot, but back to the point, Ill just build a whole new pc after that first one can no longer hold up to the games, then cram a sh!t load of hdd into it and use it as a file server until it has a major meltdown like mobo shot or cpu cooked.

This first one was a good "budget" game rig, I spent about 1k on the pc it self then monitor keyboard ect. on top of that. I say budget because you can't have a cheep-o pc intended for games that cost less than a Dell and then expect it to last for 4 years.

So to sum this up I hope to only have to upgrade once every 4 years. This may be quite delusional of me but hey Ill cross that upgrade bridge when I get to it be it 3 years or 6 months.
April 12, 2006 7:38:24 PM

Every 1-1.5 years.
April 12, 2006 7:48:33 PM

Its time again! Run out and get that x1900xtx !!!
a b U Graphics card
a b Î Nvidia
April 12, 2006 7:52:57 PM

Quote:
There is always something new on computers almost every 6 months,
So if you got a stable job, you can affort new equipment every 6 months :twisted:


Well for me the problem was I usually upgrade desktop one year laptop/notebook the next. This has been my method for some time.
However I was planning the new desktop and was so dissapointed with the previous laptop that I decided I needed to upgrade that, now that it's time to upgrade desktop again (Oblivion was the target date), I've decided to forget Desktops all together considering the strength of current laptops, and I mena laptop, not desktop replacements. The DUO has performance and low power, and the X1600, GF7600GO are nice (X1700 looks like it'd be better) and don't use too much power. So I find myself asking why do I need a desktop which I don't use much anymore. Now I'm going from 3 computers to 1, with everything I want from all three: Gaming, Editing Power, Portability w/ Battery use and without.

So now it's likely an upgrade to a new laptop every 12-18 months, unless I'm truely content and there's no solution I like on offer (seriously if they only had power hungy X2s and X1800/GF7800s for laptops, I'd return to desktop and cheap ultra-portable). I think the Merom+X1700 w/ HDCP enabled DVI/HDMI support will last me for quite some time for everythign but gaming. It's like the perfect laptop for me... I hope. 8)

Maybe to spice things up I'll need to get a MAc and then have every other year be Mac/PC. :twisted:
April 12, 2006 8:09:36 PM

Once you go notebook you never go back! Bah, you'll be back. :D 

I thought about this, but I have'nt been able to get a straight answer from Alienware or Dell about upgrading GPU on a notebook , if I could upgrade at least 1 time per/lifespan of notebook I would consider going portable.
April 12, 2006 8:29:50 PM

I went from S3 Savage4 8mb (1999) / Radeon 7000 (2002) / Radeon 9200SE (2004) / Radeon 9700Pro (2005) -----> Present

I tend to stay a few generations back from the current one.

Right now I <3 my 9700Pro even though its a 4 year old card, it runs games like BF2/Halo/COD2/Quake4 pretty good, some you have to tweak setts a little to get the performance you want, and the card with my current system is like a perfect match (even though my cpu probably overpowers it and can probably handle up to a 7800/X1800), it is the most stable system I've ever had.. I don't believe I've encountered a lockup at any time.
April 12, 2006 9:17:31 PM

Voodoo II --> Matrox G400 --> ATI8500 --> ATI X800XL

So, about every 2.5 years I suppose.
a b U Graphics card
April 12, 2006 10:21:48 PM

Basically any time I see an irresistable sale late at night. :oops: 
a b U Graphics card
a b Î Nvidia
April 12, 2006 10:49:38 PM

Quote:
Once you go notebook you never go back! Bah, you'll be back. :D 


Funny thing is I've been at the dawn of both, I've owned (well alot of it parents for early stuff, but I was primary user);

Desktop: Commadore PET, Apple ][, Vic-20, IBM PC twin floppy + CGA, COCO, TimexSinclair, C-64, PCjr, Mac, PS/2Model 25 - 286, PS2 Model30 -386, PS/2 Model 50-486, IBM 300GL, Then build your owns.

Noteboook/portable: IBM 5155 twin floppy, IBM convertible (still to this day my favourite 'whoa' factor PC), PS/2 Model 30 Note (386), Thinkpad 700C (486SL), Thinkpad 380ED (P166MMX w/ 2MB NeoMagic), ThinkPad 390X (PII-366 w/ 7MB Neomagic), then the Dell 5150, and now the Gateway NX850Z. Next who knows.

Plus I've used a TONs of gear my dad brought back as product planner for IBM including a PowerPC (IBM, not Apple) desktop and Laptop (never really made it to market), compaqs a few more Apple products like the LISA.

Funny for an IBM guy his last 4 computers have been iMac G3 Tangerine with DVD, iBook (plain white 12"), G4 iMac/DeskLamp 17", and G4 PowerBook 12". 8O

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I thought about this, but I have'nt been able to get a straight answer from Alienware or Dell about upgrading GPU on a notebook , if I could upgrade at least 1 time per/lifespan of notebook I would consider going portable.


Depends on the model, thetop models of Alienware and Dell ARE upgradeable, but I know those two use proprietary interfaces, thus you need to buy from them, and therefore might as well have them install it (free with purchase). I know Voodoo does offer upgrades too, but I think their are straight unchanged Axiom and MXM solutions, so easier upgrade path (if you can find the proper parts yourself).

For me upgradability seemed like a great idea, but like I mentioned,probably cost so much, might as well sell the whole laptop and then take that money and get all new gear plus warranty. Like right now, instead of addin a 2GHZ PM and X800 to my rig, I'd prefer a DUO core (or better) plus X1K or GF7 series part with the support for DDR2-667 and slightly larger HD (mine's 100GB new standard for this specific laptop 120GB), plus better LCD, new standard is WSXGA instead of WXGA for this laptop. Right now the sweet thing is the NX860 uses the same battery (I have 2) so I could keep my extra one. I just hope gateway keeps the same connector one when they upgrade to the merom version, or else they lose oneof their biggest benifits to me right now. 2 batteries let's me actually game on flights 2+ hours of HL2/FartCry , 3-4+ hourse of Morrowind using both batteries. Haven't played Oblivion yet, but probably similar to HL2/FartCry.
April 12, 2006 10:53:31 PM

I'm still sitting with socket A, AGP, too. Since I've only got a year of school left I think my next upgrade will be when I get a real job. :D 
April 12, 2006 11:18:14 PM

If i can remember correctly...my upgrade path went from Ati Rage Fury 32MB , to an ATi Radeon 8500 64MB, to an ATi 9800 Pro AIW 128MB, to an ATi x1900XT 512MB. I just upgraded when i couldnt play the games that i wanted, how i wanted them to look.
April 12, 2006 11:44:05 PM

when there is a decent gain.


voodoo banshe to voodoo2 (with the banshee) to TNT riva1 to g2 gtx to ati 8500 to ati 9600 to g6600gt (current)

most the cards below the 9600 I was given though so its more like


banshee to tnt2 to 9600 to 6600gt
April 13, 2006 1:58:20 AM

I upgrade as my budget will allow, and since im going to college... it will be about 2 years.

Im building a brand new rig from the ground up that shouldnt need any parts replaced for atleast the first year. The first thing to go should be the X1800XT... Ill just ebay it off for whatever I can get and upgrade the GPU first.

I will probably upgrade this video card twice in the computers life, and then ditch it for a whole new setup. But by then Ill be out of college with a degree and a much bigger budget for my toys. :twisted: :D 


I went from an intergrated Intel Extreme graphics 1 to a 256MB PCI Radeon 9200 (64 bit bus) to a Radeon X1800XT 512MB.

I wont drop this X1800XT until atleast this time next year and hope to hold on to it for about another year to 1.5 years. But with college, the part time job I have and the half an hour I spend every day at the gym Ill have little time to game, if any. But Ima run the circuits off this new rig (which the parts will be here tomorow!!) until I go off to college and then dedicate a single day each weekend to her.
April 13, 2006 2:51:29 AM

i ran my geforce 2 till it diead....yea call me cheap but 30 frames on CoD isnt bad.....im not insanely crazy about frams as long as its above 30....yep

Geforce 2 MX440 -> ATI 9800 Pro -> Direct X10 Card

however im going to college hopefully to Embry-Riddle if i can get money T_T
ahem anyways looking at an ABS Labtop with a 6600 in it so meh its a little better then a 9800 Pro and should last a while ;P Plus u can upgrade your card or something with the labtop im looking at
April 13, 2006 2:55:37 AM

It should last till it either dies and replacement is recommended or the games you are playing is dropping below acceptable levels with max details enabled and you start to become irratated with its performance lagging.
April 13, 2006 3:04:28 AM

Mine have been....

TNT, GeForce2, GeForce3, X800 XT...

I tend replace the cards with a new system when a specific game demands it (last one was Doom III). Not sure what the next killer game will be...but it could be a tricky one as my current system is AGP, let's hope they bring out some better AGP solutions in the next 6 monts as my X800 will start showing it's age soon!

PS Good thread by the way!
April 13, 2006 3:15:12 AM

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[(well alot of it parents for early stuff, but I was primary user);


I'm always amazed(seriously) at the computer heritage you grew up with. It's no wonder you manage to juggle all of the different tech these days, and are able to relate to or give insight to most posters questions/problems.




On top of all of this though, your oppinion can be skewed at times :tongue:






:wink:
April 13, 2006 3:36:50 AM

that is freakin cool man... I cannot come close to that history... how cool that must have been.

before graphics cards I startded piddling around on a texas instruments (TI99?) comp in school, and then went to an appleIIc. I did basic on both, and had a tandy trs80 at home. Played games on data cassette tapes, all text rpg's that sucked me in. That is about it while the console dark side swallowed me in for years. Wasn't until GLquake (that i mentioned earlier) that I came back to the light. ;) 

Still cant pretend to have that deep of heritage in comps. rock on grape.
April 13, 2006 3:47:14 AM

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Personally I think it's best to skip generations... I went from a ATI 9600 Pro all the way up to a 7800 GTX shortly after its release... the ATI did everything I needed it to do right up until it was retired... it was getting a little weak in the gaming department but still played the games I was interested in.

Anyone who buys every current generation card is crazy... no way did I even consider buying a 7900 GTX when it was announced over 7 or 8 months after I had my card... however, I am looking ahead to the next generation cards from ATI/Nvidia.


7900 isn't exactly a new gen; just a die shrink and higher speeds. 7800GTX will run games nicely for quite a while, though; I'd say the next 1-2 years.
April 13, 2006 3:50:32 AM

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Gotta love the 9700 PRO.

It has to be the best, longest lasting viable videocard the planet has ever seen...


It's pretty sad how 4 year old tech beats the hell out of my x600. I went from a GF2 with a P4 1.6, 256MB DDR266 to that, so it was a huge upgrade. I'll see how much more speed I can get out of mine, and upgrade to DX10 and Vista in like a year or so.
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