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Newb question: A8N32-SLI + EIDE/SATA

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April 12, 2006 4:57:43 PM

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E1681...

Can this MoBo use regular EIDE hardrives or does it only take SATA?

Storage Devices
PATA 2 x ATA100 up to 4 Devices
SATA 3Gb/s 6
SATA RAID NV RAID 0/1/0+1/5 JBOD
Additional RAID Controller Sil 3132

Thanks and sorry for the newbiness. :oops: 
April 12, 2006 5:11:40 PM

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Storage Devices
PATA 2 x ATA100 up to 4 Devices
April 12, 2006 5:14:43 PM

Just to make the previous response clearer: PATA= E-IDE
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April 12, 2006 5:42:27 PM

Thanks.
April 12, 2006 5:50:26 PM

No problem, I had the same question a long while ago myself. Just got to using a 60GB Sata hard drive I forgot about. :) 
April 12, 2006 8:03:27 PM

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Just to make the previous response clearer: PATA= E-IDE


PATA= parrallel ATA, SATA= Serail ATA..

SATA=IDE+Serial interface. PATA=IDE+Parrallel interface.

Don't mix up things..

Both PATA and SATA use same controller, same drive, but different interface.
April 12, 2006 8:32:28 PM

I was trying to keep it simple, but if you want to make it complicated, go ahead and explain to us all how a 74GB raptor is bridged to SATA and a 150GB is natively SATA. When you're done with that you could discuss why the Sil 3132 is such a good SATA controller but is not available in PATA uses.
April 12, 2006 9:29:39 PM

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I was trying to keep it simple, but if you want to make it complicated, go ahead and explain to us all how a 74GB raptor is bridged to SATA and a 150GB is natively SATA.


Because it is not bridged to PATA

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When you're done with that you could discuss why the Sil 3132 is such a good SATA controller but is not available in PATA uses.


Because it's not.
April 12, 2006 9:32:19 PM

Sounds like you have part of the equation, but I was looking for an explanation as to why the bridge is necessary. Or maybe why PATA uses so many more pins that SATA. Or any real Solid Info. If you got it, let it out. If not, put a sock in it.
April 12, 2006 9:59:12 PM

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Sounds like you have part of the equation, but I was looking for an explanation as to why the bridge is necessary. Or maybe why PATA uses so many more pins that SATA. Or any real Solid Info. If you got it, let it out. If not, put a sock in it.


As drive transfer data faster, the new interface was necessary to keep data from being corrupted. See, when 2 or more wire are close together, as you can see on IDE flat ribbon, having one working at high frequency would affect the other near. This is why, with ATA100 and 133, you need 80 wires ribbon, even if there is 40 pins on the connector.

The extra wire simply act as a shield between wire to prevent crosstalking. Serial interface corrected this problem, as serial need less wire for transfer and signaling.

First SATA HDD were normal PATA HDD with serial interface. It can be guessed that first SATA with molex power was like a mix of both interface.

Now, newer SATA HDD got SATA interface as well as SATA power connector. This is called evolution and technology follow up.

With motherboard and chipset coming more and more with SATA interface, then you're going to see more and more controller supporting this interface. You may not know, but the Promise 376 controller, that equippep some motherboard some time ago was there to bring SATA support as well as PATA to motherboard in need of connector option. But ince SATA has pretty much replaced PATA, then no one still bother to support the outdated PATA interface. Unless you already have the HDD, it is guessed that if you're going to get a new one, it will be SATA. Optical devices is mainly the only use for PATA in new system.

So, when manufacturer started to get away from PATA, with SATA being still new to the market, PSU were not quite ready with SATA power connector, so molex from the old interface was still used. Just like chipset were not ready, so third party controller were use to bring SATA interface support.

Now, chipset has native SATA support, as well asPSU, and more manufacturer are starting to limit HDD model in PATA, concentrating the better and newer feature to their SATA line.

Just like AGP superset PCI, And PCI-e supersetting AGP, it is something that is not avoidable. old stuff are put to the side while new one are getting there..

First Raptor were SCSI drive, with a patched IDE interface to SATA to make it available. They did it for server market, not really for enthusiast.. Newer Raptor have more mature interface, but not quite up to date to SATAII standard.

but SATAII standard don't really bring performance advantage, but mainly features.

But there is one thing that you should not forget

SATA is an interface that replace the old PATA interface between an IDE controller and an IDE drive. It is no more than a wire. But this wire allow for more speed and feature than the old wire.
April 12, 2006 11:57:36 PM

there you go, now we have usefull info on the page. Although, I doubt the original poster cares too much.
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