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Intel Pentium D Processor 930 (3.0GHz) w/ 2MB cache

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April 12, 2006 10:16:36 PM

Hope fully, this processor is above average.

These 77 year drybones and especially 'head bone' just purchased a Dell 600 XPS with the subject processor and dual Gforce 6800's and 2 Ghz DDR Ram to play games with. The Gforce 7900's :?: The Dollar sign was why over my wallets small size. :D 


Please tell me I did okay. (only if I really did).

Thanks for readng and replying.
drybones

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April 12, 2006 10:28:46 PM

That is nice chip, but not for games....it is good for encoding and rendering. For all other purposes Athlon64/X2/FX&Opteron is better. That is my opinion based on testing and using both Intel P4 and AMD K8 systems.
Anyway it is the best of Intel what you can get at that freq, for now. You can just replace it with Conroe when it arives with no other changes and make a beast of your machine
April 12, 2006 10:40:52 PM

thats pretty good, it'll do a good job of whatever you want it to do, but it would have been better if you could have gotten a hold of a 7900GT. It's mainly the graphics card and not the processor that's the bottleneck in playing high end details in games.
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April 12, 2006 10:56:46 PM

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thats pretty good, it'll do a good job of whatever you want it to do, but it would have been better if you could have gotten a hold of a 7900GT. It's mainly the graphics card and not the processor that's the bottleneck in playing high end details in games.

I don't agree with you.
If he uses perverse antialiasing modes, yes the 7900GT will give some more FPS. But hes system is mostly limited by the CPU/RAM/CHIPSET that always has the last word when limiting FPS.
There are only few games compiled to work in parallel, so 3GHz Prescott is not a big deal and there would be no more FPS for playing high end details in games even if he uses two 7900GT in SLI.
April 12, 2006 11:38:31 PM

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thats pretty good, it'll do a good job of whatever you want it to do, but it would have been better if you could have gotten a hold of a 7900GT. It's mainly the graphics card and not the processor that's the bottleneck in playing high end details in games.


I DO agree with you. I don't think it will be that video bound either.

Very nice system DRYBONES. I suspect you're ready to rock 'n roll! Post your thoughts once you've had some time to enjoy it.
April 12, 2006 11:44:40 PM

I'm not saying it was teh absolute best he could get, but it will get him where he wants to go. :)  If he wants to play max details on some fancy games, he should have a 7900GT otherwise he'll be just fine.
April 12, 2006 11:51:43 PM

My thanks to each. :) 

I was attempting to play, Bethesda's Elder Scolls IV, Oblivion on this machine. Bad News, altho I did get it to run after much fiddling (ini etc.) but my machine would bog down after 3 hours, more or less, of play.

:wink: anyway, I info'ed my Sweetie of 40 years that "I" NEEDED a new machine.

I must admid that I have been out of the computer loop for the past 3 years. Too many (old people) thngs and the god almighty dollar has been a bogger. :(  So I thought I would ask the subject question of you nice folks.

But these old and drybones are still playing computer games. :D 
drybones
April 13, 2006 12:00:06 AM

lower the paging, (which forces it into the memory, of which you have plenty, 2GB)... that helps...

and what speed is the harddrive? computer can be pretty slow if it pages off of a slow HDD. PSU can be a consideration, but you should NOT experience a slowdown. The other possibillity is the graphics card,.... what are the system temps?

I wonder if it is throttling, or if the graphics card is throttling....

to explain myself better... the longer you stay on a computer, the more stuff gets paged...

however, I'm running a 3.0Ghz P4 myself, (single core). I experience no slowdown... that's because I have a fast HDD, and reduced the paging.
April 13, 2006 12:04:52 AM

Sorry, was discribing my present machine.

New one in production. :D 
As noted in orginal post. I hope. :oops: 

drybones
April 13, 2006 12:10:34 AM

ok i can see now that "just purchased" leaves room for... other things :p 

well, I'm pretty sure you will enjoy your new machine... but out of curiousity what are the specs on your current machine?

WINDSHEAR :) 
April 13, 2006 12:36:32 AM

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just purchased a Dell


with out reading any further, u got ripped off, dumbass

i mean it in no offense
April 13, 2006 1:05:05 AM

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just purchased a Dell


with out reading any further, u got ripped off, dumbass

i mean it in no offense

now that is not true. Dells are great. :roll:
April 13, 2006 2:21:27 PM

Dimension XPS 600, Intel Pentium D Processor 930 (3.0GHz) w/ 2MB cache
1 1 311-5069 2GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHz
1 1 465-2068 20 in (20 in viewable) 2007FP Digital Flat Panel Display
1 1 320-4535 Dual 256MB Nvidia GeForce 6800Graphics Card
1 1 341-1587 160GB NCQ Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
1 1 340-8628 3.5in Floppy Drive
1 1 420-5586 Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005,English for Dimension XPS 600
1 1 420-4927 Windows Media Player 10
1 1 420-5476 Dell Direct Download
1 1 420-5769 Internet Search and Portal
1 1 313-3607 No modem requested for Dell Dimension
1 1 313-4109 16X DVD-ROM and 16X DVD+/-RW
1 1 420-5780 Sonic Cineplayer
1 1 420-5791 Roxio Creator Basic/MyDVD Basic
1 1 313-3771 X-Fi PCI Sound Card
1 1 313-4514 No Speaker Requested
1 1 341-1588 160GB NCQ Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
April 13, 2006 2:44:00 PM

I want to upgrade to 930...can you please tell me the temp of the system(CPU/GPU/MB) idle and load..did you change the CPU stock cooler?
April 13, 2006 2:53:56 PM

This is a new machine designed by Dell so am really unaware of thier cooling designs. Best to contact "Dell Support online Chat". Very quick people and on top of different machine capabilities.

Hope this helps. :) 
drybones
April 13, 2006 3:36:39 PM

Yeah, I would do it differently as well.

I DID buy and XPS2 laptop about a year ago. Was the fastest to be found at the time, Dell and all. I am EXTREMELY happy with it. I'd pass on any Dell desktop however.

If you can return the desktop I would. I have 3 machines with D9XX series processors. I have 2 D920 and one D940. As all of the AMD guys will tell you, the Intel is bottlenecked somewhat by the FSB. I don't think you will be able to tweak the FSB speed on a Dell. I actually have better performance out of my D920s at any overclock over 3.4GHZ. The 920 Really screams at 4.2GHZ and is rock solid. I doubt you will suffer much bottlenecking at 1200 mhz. So, you spent $100-$200+ too much on the processor (depending on Dell's pricing). The 6800s are ok....but that's it. They are tough to find but the 7900GTs own. I'm not a fan of the Nforce4 chipset. I've built 3 systems with one AMD and two Intel...any of the three are not as stable as ANY Intel system I have ever built. I am not a fan at all. It's almost been enough for me to get rid of the Nvidia cards and go ATI. I don't like being forced into an inferior chipset...but if you want SLI, you have no choice. If only AMD would build their own chipsets.....or Nvidia would ink a deal with Intel....O well.

So....If you can return it, I would. Build your own. If you want Intel; go with it. You will not gain anything by opting for more than the 920 unless you go for the 955, but that's just a waste of money. If you are open to AMD, there MIGHT be a noticeable seat-of-the-pants difference. I've personally never been able to tell the difference between 92 and 98 frames a second. maybe I'm just getting slow in my old age.

Every P4-DXXX processor has shipped with a crappy cooler. i run Zalmann coolers for my overclocked stuff. 2 machines side by side, both D920, both clocked at 3.6 Stock cooler: 26 idle and 51-52 under 80% load on both cores (running the folding program)
Zalmann 7700: 21 idle and 27 under same load. Intels overclock so easily, I think they send the crappy HS/FAN just to get you to move up in procesor speed?
April 13, 2006 3:55:24 PM

Do you have some benchmarks with 920/940(stock speed)?
I want to go 920/930 and i dont know what will be the difference btw my 650 at test and temps..for the cooler i want Scythe Ninja i think is=with Zalman
April 13, 2006 6:16:55 PM

Sure....which ones are you looking for? I don't have any full copies of anything but can give you PCMark, 3DMark, Everest, Sisoft or whatever scores the standard results you get with eval versions of the software. If you have something else downloadable I'll try it out. Let me know what you are after.

I'm not sure how that heatsink will compare. I prefer all copper. That thing looks big enough, but size isn't everything. I'm pretty sure the 920 will not need much tweaking to own the 650. It will be interesting to see.
April 13, 2006 7:11:29 PM

I want all the score you have just for the CPU...and idle 27C with zalman this is great..i will think at this option..Yes Ninja is bigger but this is not the reason way i want one..is for the results are almost the same with zalman and if i have a lower ambient temp i can stop the cooler without problems..
CPU(stock speed) points for :
3DMark06
Everest(all 6 for CPU)
Sience Mark(over all)
I now is better the 920/930 against 650 but how much is the difference...if is not significant big i will wait for Conroe..
April 13, 2006 7:59:53 PM

waiting for Conroe would be smart because A: Conroes are gonna be cheap, as well as fast, and B: the prices on the Preslers (930,920) are gonna be cut in half on the date of Conroe launch. :) 
April 13, 2006 8:26:16 PM

Fast and cheap, what more could you ask for in a woman! :p 
April 13, 2006 8:48:44 PM

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Fast and cheap, what more could you ask for in a woman! :p 


real love...

(taking things seriously).

and it's a darn hard thing to find.
April 13, 2006 9:05:43 PM

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Intel Pentium D Processor 930 (3.0GHz) w/ 2MB cache


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Please tell me I did okay. (only if I really did).


Sorry boy! You did not. The cache size of 930 is 4 MB (2x2) Now choose one :
1- You are given a 830
2- You can't read
3- You love Flava flav

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April 14, 2006 2:02:25 AM

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Intel Pentium D Processor 930 (3.0GHz) w/ 2MB cache


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Please tell me I did okay. (only if I really did).


Sorry boy! You did not. The cache size of 930 is 4 MB (2x2) Now choose one :
1- You are given a 830
2- You can't read
3- You love Flava flav

,,

what in the F*ck is the matter with you? the 830 is far far inferior. He did just great. 3.0Ghz performs just fine.
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