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I got 1024MB (512 x 2) (3 3 3 8 ) Kingston value ram. Ive been trying to OC my S939 Venice 3200+ to run my ram higher than 200mhz. However, I cant seen to push it much beyond 215 mhz. I need some advice on what ram timing to increase to take my ram to at least 250 mhz. If it helps, i got an Asus A8N5X motherboard.

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I got 1024MB (512 x 2) (3 3 3 8 ) Kingston value ram. Ive been trying to OC my S939 Venice 3200+ to run my ram higher than 200mhz. However, I cant seen to push it much beyond 215 mhz. I need some advice on what ram timing to increase to take my ram to at least 250 mhz. If it helps, i got an Asus A8N5X motherboard.



It's Kingston.....and it's Value.....that's like a 1 legged man in an ass-kicking competition.....it just aint right....

Get some different RAM.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

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Yep you've properly assessed the situation. You need ram created for oc'ing. To hit 250 you want ram rated to hit that speed. PC4000 is the rating for 250mhz. It could also be listed as 250 or 500. The only question that should be in your mind now, is whether to go with 2x512 or 2x1024.

Keep in mind that oc'ing is like placing a bet on a horse....there's little doubt the horse will finish the race, but it may not be able to place as well as you'd like. IE, the system taken as a whole, may not be able to oc as well as you'd like. Just because you know the ram can reach 250, doesn't mean the mobo and cpu will be able to.

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Yep you've properly assessed the situation. You need ram created for oc'ing. To hit 250 you want ram rated to hit that speed. PC4000 is the rating for 250mhz. It could also be listed as 250 or 500. The only question that should be in your mind now, is whether to go with 2x512 or 2x1024.

Keep in mind that oc'ing is like placing a bet on a horse....there's little doubt the horse will finish the race, but it may not be able to place as well as you'd like. IE, the system taken as a whole, may not be able to oc as well as you'd like. Just because you know the ram can reach 250, doesn't mean the mobo and cpu will be able to.



Garsh! Good assessment is key, eh?

PC3200 can overclock higher than PC4000 in 1GB sticks, and PC3200 has the greatest memory efficiency of any others as well....there's something to "assess".

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

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If i was to use a memory divider, what kind of clock speeds on the CPU would i be able to get on a 2.0 ghz venice 3200+?

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If i was to use a memory divider, what kind of clock speeds on the CPU would i be able to get on a 2.0 ghz venice 3200+?



If you have a good PSU, it would mean get a good Mobo and heatsink/fan for the CPU, and you can overclock to 260x10=2600MHz w/ 1.5v or less. Try and keep voltages below 1.55v as after that, the CPU starts to burn.

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

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Garsh! Good assessment is key, eh?

PC3200 can overclock higher than PC4000 in 1GB sticks, and PC3200 has the greatest memory efficiency of any others as well....there's something to "assess".



Ok...i just deleted a whole paragraph on the assumption that you aren't a complete moron, like that statement dictates... What you're trying to say, is that when using a divider, you can get a higher overall overclock? Very good, you've learned the first noob lesson of overclocking... However what you stated was that 3200 is faster then 4000. Which is back-asswards. And i have no idea what you're talkign about in regards to 1gb sticks....there are several 1gb ddr sticks that do (at least) 250fsb...including my own.

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Memory efficiency

is best @ 3200 huh
ROFL...

You care to back that up? I'd love to see where you came up with that... You need to stop making blanket statements, and back something up. Or at least explain what you mean by that...Are you saying that with a divider, keeping the memory at low timings...2 2 2 or 1.5 2 2 (1 pair of tccd will do this and several bh ch versions can do it as well)....oh well....This is stupid, either write out what you mean, or i'm just going to assume you're an idiot.


3200 is a lower speed/rating then 4000...Truth
-higher is better--truth* *in that its on a given processor....so on a 3800 X2, running on a 200*10 fsb would be slower then on a 250*8 fsb. (slower in the case where maximum throughput is achieved...see mhz myth[primary concerns amd vs p4, but is the same basic principle]...is especially true for heavily memory intensive applications... games/photoshop/etc).

1gb sticks can not reach 250fsb - FALSE
1gb sticks can not reach 300fsb - currently TRUE
1gb sticks can not overclock as high as 512 sticks- overgeneralized statement...but comparing the highest overclockable 512 sticks (tccd) and
the highest overclockable 1024 sticks...this is TRUE...for now. *People used to make the same statements about 256 sticks and 128...* However seeings how both amd and intel are going to(or already are at...intel) ddr2 in the near future, i think its safe to say that ddr is fading away (at least in the mainstream cpu market as it currently stands) and there won't be too much more research in to making their timings better and making larger modules that can overclock further and further.

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Garsh! Good assessment is key, eh?

PC3200 can overclock higher than PC4000 in 1GB sticks, and PC3200 has the greatest memory efficiency of any others as well....there's something to "assess".



Ok...i just deleted a whole paragraph on the assumption that you aren't a complete moron, like that statement dictates... What you're trying to say, is that when using a divider, you can get a higher overall overclock? Very good, you've learned the first noob lesson of overclocking... However what you stated was that 3200 is faster then 4000. Which is back-asswards. And i have no idea what you're talkign about in regards to 1gb sticks....there are several 1gb ddr sticks that do (at least) 250fsb...including my own.

Quote :

Memory efficiency

is best @ 3200 huh
ROFL...

You care to back that up? I'd love to see where you came up with that... You need to stop making blanket statements, and back something up. Or at least explain what you mean by that...Are you saying that with a divider, keeping the memory at low timings...2 2 2 or 1.5 2 2 (1 pair of tccd will do this and several bh ch versions can do it as well)....oh well....This is stupid, either write out what you mean, or i'm just going to assume you're an idiot.


3200 is a lower speed/rating then 4000...Truth
-higher is better--truth* *in that its on a given processor....so on a 3800 X2, running on a 200*10 fsb would be slower then on a 250*8 fsb. (slower in the case where maximum throughput is achieved...see mhz myth[primary concerns amd vs p4, but is the same basic principle]...is especially true for heavily memory intensive applications... games/photoshop/etc).

1gb sticks can not reach 250fsb - FALSE
1gb sticks can not reach 300fsb - currently TRUE
1gb sticks can not overclock as high as 512 sticks- overgeneralized statement...but comparing the highest overclockable 512 sticks (tccd) and
the highest overclockable 1024 sticks...this is TRUE...for now. *People used to make the same statements about 256 sticks and 128...* However seeings how both amd and intel are going to(or already are at...intel) ddr2 in the near future, i think its safe to say that ddr is fading away (at least in the mainstream cpu market as it currently stands) and there won't be too much more research in to making their timings better and making larger modules that can overclock further and further.

Wow, since I'm afraid of being labeled an Idiot by the moron "ApeSoccer", I guess I'll explain.....wait, no I won't.....haha, how great is that? Looks like you haven't learned the first noob lesson in COMPUTERS, congrats!

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

Reply to MadModMike

LOL i didn't think you could come up with a response. You're a troll, you always have been. Look at every one of your responses...

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LOL i didn't think you could come up with a response. You're a troll, you always have been. Look at every one of your responses...



OO what kind of Troll am I? The cuddly kind you find with long hair? The king under the bridge who scares little kids? :twisted: :twisted:

~~Mad Mod Mike, pimpin' the world 1 rig at a time

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