It seems that every day there is some character out on the internet aiming for intel's new chip conroe. The funniest ones are the ones about the asian guy who some how got an engineerng sample and he is out there sharing all his benchmarks with shorikuoe, mohammed, bin le, and joe blow from joe's comp repair shop.......I have never seen so many paranoid geeks in my life........come on guys it's not that big of a deal. It was going to happen....just most people didn't expect it to happen so quick. Lets be real.....Amd had intel on the ropes for a year and a half.......that is a hell of an achievement, but unfortunily for them, intel still made record revenue. Well luckily for Amd they still have the K8L in the works and if that doesn't work out they still have the law suit, hey.....maybe they will get both.......a hell of a performance win with the K8L and the law suit............If that pans out Hector Ruiz for President in 2008.