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Anonymous
February 18, 2005 7:04:53 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

So can lost clusters be part of something important then? ie part of a
essential windows program? I will 'save' from now on when norton starts
repairing. Does the windows scan disk program pick up on lost clusters
or am I better off sticking to my norton disk doctor?


Gary S. Terhune Wrote:
> It *is* possible to put these files back together. But you'd either
> have
> to learn how, yourself, or take it to a pro. You'd also want to save
> copies of cross-linked files before repairing them.
>
> I look into the files using a plain-text editor in order to possibly
> find out what they are. Particularly if they are image of text
> documents, even lost fragments can contain a significant amount of
> data
> that can be used as is.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "PSYCHOPIXIE" PSYCHOPIXIE.1kn6bz@news.win98banter.com wrote in message
> news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1kn6bz@news.win98banter.com...-
>
> That's good news then. Although does that mean when norton fixes
> them-
> I-
> should be saving the lost clusters rather than deleting(question-
> mark).-
> Norton does it's whole fixing thing and then asks afterwards what I-
> want-
> to do with them. I sometimes save and sometimes allow them to be
> deleted. Norton also offers to make some sort of back up file incase-
> it-
> alters and does something naughty but I can't be bothered with doing
> that so I skip.
>
>
> PCR Wrote:-
> "jane" jane@internet.com wrote in message
> news:%236kH0iPFFHA.4004@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> |
> | No, Lost Clusters aren't the same as bad clusters. Lost Clusters
> are
> | files with a head but no tail, or a tail with no head, or a--
> middle--
> with
> | no head and no tail....to put it simply, somewhere along the line
> the
> | integrity of the file got broken and the clusters that make it up
> are no
> | longer associated with each other properly. Lost Clusters are--
> those--
> | which aren't marked as deleted or empty, but which don't
> recognizably
> | belong to a file. You typically get Lost Clusters when forced to
> reset
> | or when Cross-linked files occur--parts of two files get
> incorrectly
> | linked together as one file, with the other parts that are left
> over
> | becoming Lost Clusters.
> |
> | Bad clusters are areas that are physically corrupted--can't be--
> read--
> in
> | part or in whole.
> |
> | WOE.
> | I am going to be a Dan for a second on your above reply gary.
> | That was the most Terse and comprehensive explanation I
> | have ever read.
> | Each line was an edification.
> |
> | **accolades**
> |
> | regards Jane
>
> I'd rather be "a head but no tail" than the other choices he has
> offered!
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net-
>
>
> --
> PSYCHOPIXIE-


--
PSYCHOPIXIE
Anonymous
February 18, 2005 7:04:54 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Lost Clusters can be part of *any* file. But if it's a system file, you
aren't likely to be able to put it back together. The correct procedure
is to extract a new copy from Windows or Internet Explorer Setup files.
(Or from elsewhere, actually--wherever the version of he file you have
came from.)

Windows Scandisk picks up on Lost Clusters just fine.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"PSYCHOPIXIE" <PSYCHOPIXIE.1ko3ny@news.win98banter.com> wrote in message
news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1ko3ny@news.win98banter.com...
>
> So can lost clusters be part of something important then? ie part of a
> essential windows program? I will 'save' from now on when norton
starts
> repairing. Does the windows scan disk program pick up on lost clusters
> or am I better off sticking to my norton disk doctor?
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune Wrote:
> > It *is* possible to put these files back together. But you'd either
> > have
> > to learn how, yourself, or take it to a pro. You'd also want to save
> > copies of cross-linked files before repairing them.
> >
> > I look into the files using a plain-text editor in order to possibly
> > find out what they are. Particularly if they are image of text
> > documents, even lost fragments can contain a significant amount of
> > data
> > that can be used as is.
> >
> > --
> > Gary S. Terhune
> > MS MVP Shell/User
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> >
> > "PSYCHOPIXIE" PSYCHOPIXIE.1kn6bz@news.win98banter.com wrote in
message
> > news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1kn6bz@news.win98banter.com...-
> >
> > That's good news then. Although does that mean when norton fixes
> > them-
> > I-
> > should be saving the lost clusters rather than deleting(question-
> > mark).-
> > Norton does it's whole fixing thing and then asks afterwards what I-
> > want-
> > to do with them. I sometimes save and sometimes allow them to be
> > deleted. Norton also offers to make some sort of back up file
incase-
> > it-
> > alters and does something naughty but I can't be bothered with doing
> > that so I skip.
> >
> >
> > PCR Wrote:-
> > "jane" jane@internet.com wrote in message
> > news:%236kH0iPFFHA.4004@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > |
> > | No, Lost Clusters aren't the same as bad clusters. Lost Clusters
> > are
> > | files with a head but no tail, or a tail with no head, or a--
> > middle--
> > with
> > | no head and no tail....to put it simply, somewhere along the line
> > the
> > | integrity of the file got broken and the clusters that make it up
> > are no
> > | longer associated with each other properly. Lost Clusters are--
> > those--
> > | which aren't marked as deleted or empty, but which don't
> > recognizably
> > | belong to a file. You typically get Lost Clusters when forced to
> > reset
> > | or when Cross-linked files occur--parts of two files get
> > incorrectly
> > | linked together as one file, with the other parts that are left
> > over
> > | becoming Lost Clusters.
> > |
> > | Bad clusters are areas that are physically corrupted--can't be--
> > read--
> > in
> > | part or in whole.
> > |
> > | WOE.
> > | I am going to be a Dan for a second on your above reply gary.
> > | That was the most Terse and comprehensive explanation I
> > | have ever read.
> > | Each line was an edification.
> > |
> > | **accolades**
> > |
> > | regards Jane
> >
> > I'd rather be "a head but no tail" than the other choices he has
> > offered!
> >
> > --
> > Thanks or Good Luck,
> > There may be humor in this post, and,
> > Naturally, you will not sue,
> > should things get worse after this,
> > PCR
> > pcrrcp@netzero.net-
> >
> >
> > --
> > PSYCHOPIXIE-
>
>
> --
> PSYCHOPIXIE
!