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Anonymous
March 8, 2005 4:36:49 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

I see. Thank you for your advise about my hard drive size. I don't
think I can hook up a 2nd hard drive to my pc. There isn't enough space
for that according to some systems guy I spoke to at work. He also
seemed to think that there wasn't the right connection inside or
something. For the moment I will leave my poor pc alone. I will use xp
on the laptop I plan to buy and keep win98se on my old pc, well unless I
get the urge to upgrade it to xp but I think from what people have said
here that, that would be a bad idea.
Thanks again

Menno Hershberger Wrote:
> PSYCHOPIXIE PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com wrote in
> news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com:
> -
>
> Thank you for muddling through my very inexperienced questions and
> ideas. I was reading about creating partitions in a ''all about
> windows' sort of book and it makes it sound a bit risky for a novice
> like me. My hard drive size is about 13.5gb and there is about 5gb
> free at present but I could fairly easily free up more by
> uninstalling
> one of the many programs I never use. As I mentioned I use windows
> 98se and the processor speed is about 850mhz. From what I've read I
> personally would like to create a partition so that win98se runs on
> one
> side and xp on the other but I don't want either to know about each
> other. So do I install the partition creating program and hope for
> the
> best and then install xp on the side I want? I have never even used a
> pc with partitions so I haven't a clue. Thanks again.-
>
> If your time is worth anything, you'd be better off to buy another
> hard
> drive. New ones aren't that high anymore and you might pick up a used
> 20-
> 30 gig drive on eBay for little or nothing.
> Just hook it up as slave and install XP on that. If you do a standard
> installation with the XP CD, it will give you the option to install it
> on
> the second partiton (second drive in this case). After you get it
> installed, you'll have the option to boot into XP or 98 when you boot
> up.
> Your Windows 98 files will be visible from XP, but your XP drive will
> not
> be visible from Windows 98. Unless you choose to format the second
> drive
> in Fat 32 instead of NTFS (not recommended).
> If you try to partiton your present drive (which can be dangerous) you
> will severely limit the amount of free disk space you have for both
> systems.
>
> --
> --- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother. ---


--
PSYCHOPIXIE

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Anonymous
March 9, 2005 3:11:57 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

While you haven't told us how much free space you currently have you may
simply not have sufficient free space remaining to make it feasible.
It's also true that repartitioning carries a certain amount of risk.
I've done it hundreds of times, but I can't say they've *all* gone
without a hitch. The separate HD is definitely the better solution, and
I'm surprised that your system wouldn't have room for another, but then
again, I don't know what system we're dealing with.

But, since you have an XP system to familiarize yourself with, you're
definitely wise to not mess with the other system.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"PSYCHOPIXIE" <PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com> wrote in message
news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com...
>
> I see. Thank you for your advise about my hard drive size. I don't
> think I can hook up a 2nd hard drive to my pc. There isn't enough
space
> for that according to some systems guy I spoke to at work. He also
> seemed to think that there wasn't the right connection inside or
> something. For the moment I will leave my poor pc alone. I will use
xp
> on the laptop I plan to buy and keep win98se on my old pc, well unless
I
> get the urge to upgrade it to xp but I think from what people have
said
> here that, that would be a bad idea.
> Thanks again
>
> Menno Hershberger Wrote:
> > PSYCHOPIXIE PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com wrote in
> > news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com:
> > -
> >
> > Thank you for muddling through my very inexperienced questions and
> > ideas. I was reading about creating partitions in a ''all about
> > windows' sort of book and it makes it sound a bit risky for a novice
> > like me. My hard drive size is about 13.5gb and there is about 5gb
> > free at present but I could fairly easily free up more by
> > uninstalling
> > one of the many programs I never use. As I mentioned I use windows
> > 98se and the processor speed is about 850mhz. From what I've read I
> > personally would like to create a partition so that win98se runs on
> > one
> > side and xp on the other but I don't want either to know about each
> > other. So do I install the partition creating program and hope for
> > the
> > best and then install xp on the side I want? I have never even used
a
> > pc with partitions so I haven't a clue. Thanks again.-
> >
> > If your time is worth anything, you'd be better off to buy another
> > hard
> > drive. New ones aren't that high anymore and you might pick up a
used
> > 20-
> > 30 gig drive on eBay for little or nothing.
> > Just hook it up as slave and install XP on that. If you do a
standard
> > installation with the XP CD, it will give you the option to install
it
> > on
> > the second partiton (second drive in this case). After you get it
> > installed, you'll have the option to boot into XP or 98 when you
boot
> > up.
> > Your Windows 98 files will be visible from XP, but your XP drive
will
> > not
> > be visible from Windows 98. Unless you choose to format the second
> > drive
> > in Fat 32 instead of NTFS (not recommended).
> > If you try to partiton your present drive (which can be dangerous)
you
> > will severely limit the amount of free disk space you have for both
> > systems.
> >
> > --
> > --- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your
mother. ---
>
>
> --
> PSYCHOPIXIE
March 9, 2005 3:26:13 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Well you do have until 30 June 2006 for updates to 98SE and it does indeed
look like you may be better of waiting until you need a new machine and then
buying XP on it or if you like you can save up money and radically upgrade
your old machine but that may end up costing you more money than just buying
a new machine later on.

"PSYCHOPIXIE" <PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com> wrote in message
news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com...
:
: I see. Thank you for your advise about my hard drive size. I don't
: think I can hook up a 2nd hard drive to my pc. There isn't enough space
: for that according to some systems guy I spoke to at work. He also
: seemed to think that there wasn't the right connection inside or
: something. For the moment I will leave my poor pc alone. I will use xp
: on the laptop I plan to buy and keep win98se on my old pc, well unless I
: get the urge to upgrade it to xp but I think from what people have said
: here that, that would be a bad idea.
: Thanks again
:
: Menno Hershberger Wrote:
: > PSYCHOPIXIE PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com wrote in
: > news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com:
: > -
: >
: > Thank you for muddling through my very inexperienced questions and
: > ideas. I was reading about creating partitions in a ''all about
: > windows' sort of book and it makes it sound a bit risky for a novice
: > like me. My hard drive size is about 13.5gb and there is about 5gb
: > free at present but I could fairly easily free up more by
: > uninstalling
: > one of the many programs I never use. As I mentioned I use windows
: > 98se and the processor speed is about 850mhz. From what I've read I
: > personally would like to create a partition so that win98se runs on
: > one
: > side and xp on the other but I don't want either to know about each
: > other. So do I install the partition creating program and hope for
: > the
: > best and then install xp on the side I want? I have never even used a
: > pc with partitions so I haven't a clue. Thanks again.-
: >
: > If your time is worth anything, you'd be better off to buy another
: > hard
: > drive. New ones aren't that high anymore and you might pick up a used
: > 20-
: > 30 gig drive on eBay for little or nothing.
: > Just hook it up as slave and install XP on that. If you do a standard
: > installation with the XP CD, it will give you the option to install it
: > on
: > the second partiton (second drive in this case). After you get it
: > installed, you'll have the option to boot into XP or 98 when you boot
: > up.
: > Your Windows 98 files will be visible from XP, but your XP drive will
: > not
: > be visible from Windows 98. Unless you choose to format the second
: > drive
: > in Fat 32 instead of NTFS (not recommended).
: > If you try to partiton your present drive (which can be dangerous) you
: > will severely limit the amount of free disk space you have for both
: > systems.
: >
: > --
: > --- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your mother. ---
:
:
: --
: PSYCHOPIXIE
Related resources
March 9, 2005 3:09:56 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Gary does using BootItNG carry a large amount of risk as well. I am
considering repartioning my XPPRO side and would like your opinion on this.
Also I am using the default boot.ini with some changes and how is this likely
to affect my dual 98SE/XPPRO. side if I decide to repartition XPPRO. I
currently have 98SE on one large Fat32 partiton and XPPRO on one large NTFS
partion but I am considering tightening things up in my system and would
appreciate any advice that you could give to me. Thanks in advace and have a
wonderful day.

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eT08l%23HJFHA.3812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
: While you haven't told us how much free space you currently have you may
: simply not have sufficient free space remaining to make it feasible.
: It's also true that repartitioning carries a certain amount of risk.
: I've done it hundreds of times, but I can't say they've *all* gone
: without a hitch. The separate HD is definitely the better solution, and
: I'm surprised that your system wouldn't have room for another, but then
: again, I don't know what system we're dealing with.
:
: But, since you have an XP system to familiarize yourself with, you're
: definitely wise to not mess with the other system.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "PSYCHOPIXIE" <PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com> wrote in message
: news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com...
: >
: > I see. Thank you for your advise about my hard drive size. I don't
: > think I can hook up a 2nd hard drive to my pc. There isn't enough
: space
: > for that according to some systems guy I spoke to at work. He also
: > seemed to think that there wasn't the right connection inside or
: > something. For the moment I will leave my poor pc alone. I will use
: xp
: > on the laptop I plan to buy and keep win98se on my old pc, well unless
: I
: > get the urge to upgrade it to xp but I think from what people have
: said
: > here that, that would be a bad idea.
: > Thanks again
: >
: > Menno Hershberger Wrote:
: > > PSYCHOPIXIE PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com wrote in
: > > news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com:
: > > -
: > >
: > > Thank you for muddling through my very inexperienced questions and
: > > ideas. I was reading about creating partitions in a ''all about
: > > windows' sort of book and it makes it sound a bit risky for a novice
: > > like me. My hard drive size is about 13.5gb and there is about 5gb
: > > free at present but I could fairly easily free up more by
: > > uninstalling
: > > one of the many programs I never use. As I mentioned I use windows
: > > 98se and the processor speed is about 850mhz. From what I've read I
: > > personally would like to create a partition so that win98se runs on
: > > one
: > > side and xp on the other but I don't want either to know about each
: > > other. So do I install the partition creating program and hope for
: > > the
: > > best and then install xp on the side I want? I have never even used
: a
: > > pc with partitions so I haven't a clue. Thanks again.-
: > >
: > > If your time is worth anything, you'd be better off to buy another
: > > hard
: > > drive. New ones aren't that high anymore and you might pick up a
: used
: > > 20-
: > > 30 gig drive on eBay for little or nothing.
: > > Just hook it up as slave and install XP on that. If you do a
: standard
: > > installation with the XP CD, it will give you the option to install
: it
: > > on
: > > the second partiton (second drive in this case). After you get it
: > > installed, you'll have the option to boot into XP or 98 when you
: boot
: > > up.
: > > Your Windows 98 files will be visible from XP, but your XP drive
: will
: > > not
: > > be visible from Windows 98. Unless you choose to format the second
: > > drive
: > > in Fat 32 instead of NTFS (not recommended).
: > > If you try to partiton your present drive (which can be dangerous)
: you
: > > will severely limit the amount of free disk space you have for both
: > > systems.
: > >
: > > --
: > > --- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your
: mother. ---
: >
: >
: > --
: > PSYCHOPIXIE
:
Anonymous
March 9, 2005 3:09:57 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

I used the phrase, "a certain amount of risk", and went on to indicate
what I meant by that. I don't see how I can make myself any clearer than
that.

If you intend to separate your existing systems from each other, there
are definitely some things you need to do with regard to the XP boot
management files, but I'm not the one to explain it. I think I did it
once, about three years ago. Ask in the XP groups, or in the forums at
BootItNG.com

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
news:o U4DVuNJFHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Gary does using BootItNG carry a large amount of risk as well. I am
> considering repartioning my XPPRO side and would like your opinion on
this.
> Also I am using the default boot.ini with some changes and how is this
likely
> to affect my dual 98SE/XPPRO. side if I decide to repartition XPPRO.
I
> currently have 98SE on one large Fat32 partiton and XPPRO on one large
NTFS
> partion but I am considering tightening things up in my system and
would
> appreciate any advice that you could give to me. Thanks in advace and
have a
> wonderful day.
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eT08l%23HJFHA.3812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> : While you haven't told us how much free space you currently have you
may
> : simply not have sufficient free space remaining to make it feasible.
> : It's also true that repartitioning carries a certain amount of risk.
> : I've done it hundreds of times, but I can't say they've *all* gone
> : without a hitch. The separate HD is definitely the better solution,
and
> : I'm surprised that your system wouldn't have room for another, but
then
> : again, I don't know what system we're dealing with.
> :
> : But, since you have an XP system to familiarize yourself with,
you're
> : definitely wise to not mess with the other system.
> :
> : --
> : Gary S. Terhune
> : MS MVP Shell/User
> : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> :
> : "PSYCHOPIXIE" <PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com> wrote in
message
> : news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com...
> : >
> : > I see. Thank you for your advise about my hard drive size. I
don't
> : > think I can hook up a 2nd hard drive to my pc. There isn't enough
> : space
> : > for that according to some systems guy I spoke to at work. He also
> : > seemed to think that there wasn't the right connection inside or
> : > something. For the moment I will leave my poor pc alone. I will
use
> : xp
> : > on the laptop I plan to buy and keep win98se on my old pc, well
unless
> : I
> : > get the urge to upgrade it to xp but I think from what people have
> : said
> : > here that, that would be a bad idea.
> : > Thanks again
> : >
> : > Menno Hershberger Wrote:
> : > > PSYCHOPIXIE PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com wrote in
> : > > news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com:
> : > > -
> : > >
> : > > Thank you for muddling through my very inexperienced questions
and
> : > > ideas. I was reading about creating partitions in a ''all about
> : > > windows' sort of book and it makes it sound a bit risky for a
novice
> : > > like me. My hard drive size is about 13.5gb and there is about
5gb
> : > > free at present but I could fairly easily free up more by
> : > > uninstalling
> : > > one of the many programs I never use. As I mentioned I use
windows
> : > > 98se and the processor speed is about 850mhz. From what I've
read I
> : > > personally would like to create a partition so that win98se runs
on
> : > > one
> : > > side and xp on the other but I don't want either to know about
each
> : > > other. So do I install the partition creating program and hope
for
> : > > the
> : > > best and then install xp on the side I want? I have never even
used
> : a
> : > > pc with partitions so I haven't a clue. Thanks again.-
> : > >
> : > > If your time is worth anything, you'd be better off to buy
another
> : > > hard
> : > > drive. New ones aren't that high anymore and you might pick up a
> : used
> : > > 20-
> : > > 30 gig drive on eBay for little or nothing.
> : > > Just hook it up as slave and install XP on that. If you do a
> : standard
> : > > installation with the XP CD, it will give you the option to
install
> : it
> : > > on
> : > > the second partiton (second drive in this case). After you get
it
> : > > installed, you'll have the option to boot into XP or 98 when you
> : boot
> : > > up.
> : > > Your Windows 98 files will be visible from XP, but your XP drive
> : will
> : > > not
> : > > be visible from Windows 98. Unless you choose to format the
second
> : > > drive
> : > > in Fat 32 instead of NTFS (not recommended).
> : > > If you try to partiton your present drive (which can be
dangerous)
> : you
> : > > will severely limit the amount of free disk space you have for
both
> : > > systems.
> : > >
> : > > --
> : > > --- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your
> : mother. ---
> : >
> : >
> : > --
> : > PSYCHOPIXIE
> :
>
>
March 10, 2005 4:33:33 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

All right, I will follow your advice, Gary. Perhaps your next article can be
about this issue -- hint, hint -- evil grin <eg>

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:eEukjPOJFHA.2764@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
: I used the phrase, "a certain amount of risk", and went on to indicate
: what I meant by that. I don't see how I can make myself any clearer than
: that.
:
: If you intend to separate your existing systems from each other, there
: are definitely some things you need to do with regard to the XP boot
: management files, but I'm not the one to explain it. I think I did it
: once, about three years ago. Ask in the XP groups, or in the forums at
: BootItNG.com
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
: news:o U4DVuNJFHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
: > Gary does using BootItNG carry a large amount of risk as well. I am
: > considering repartioning my XPPRO side and would like your opinion on
: this.
: > Also I am using the default boot.ini with some changes and how is this
: likely
: > to affect my dual 98SE/XPPRO. side if I decide to repartition XPPRO.
: I
: > currently have 98SE on one large Fat32 partiton and XPPRO on one large
: NTFS
: > partion but I am considering tightening things up in my system and
: would
: > appreciate any advice that you could give to me. Thanks in advace and
: have a
: > wonderful day.
: >
: > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
: > news:eT08l%23HJFHA.3812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
: > : While you haven't told us how much free space you currently have you
: may
: > : simply not have sufficient free space remaining to make it feasible.
: > : It's also true that repartitioning carries a certain amount of risk.
: > : I've done it hundreds of times, but I can't say they've *all* gone
: > : without a hitch. The separate HD is definitely the better solution,
: and
: > : I'm surprised that your system wouldn't have room for another, but
: then
: > : again, I don't know what system we're dealing with.
: > :
: > : But, since you have an XP system to familiarize yourself with,
: you're
: > : definitely wise to not mess with the other system.
: > :
: > : --
: > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : MS MVP Shell/User
: > : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: > : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
: > :
: > : "PSYCHOPIXIE" <PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com> wrote in
: message
: > : news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com...
: > : >
: > : > I see. Thank you for your advise about my hard drive size. I
: don't
: > : > think I can hook up a 2nd hard drive to my pc. There isn't enough
: > : space
: > : > for that according to some systems guy I spoke to at work. He also
: > : > seemed to think that there wasn't the right connection inside or
: > : > something. For the moment I will leave my poor pc alone. I will
: use
: > : xp
: > : > on the laptop I plan to buy and keep win98se on my old pc, well
: unless
: > : I
: > : > get the urge to upgrade it to xp but I think from what people have
: > : said
: > : > here that, that would be a bad idea.
: > : > Thanks again
: > : >
: > : > Menno Hershberger Wrote:
: > : > > PSYCHOPIXIE PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com wrote in
: > : > > news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com:
: > : > > -
: > : > >
: > : > > Thank you for muddling through my very inexperienced questions
: and
: > : > > ideas. I was reading about creating partitions in a ''all about
: > : > > windows' sort of book and it makes it sound a bit risky for a
: novice
: > : > > like me. My hard drive size is about 13.5gb and there is about
: 5gb
: > : > > free at present but I could fairly easily free up more by
: > : > > uninstalling
: > : > > one of the many programs I never use. As I mentioned I use
: windows
: > : > > 98se and the processor speed is about 850mhz. From what I've
: read I
: > : > > personally would like to create a partition so that win98se runs
: on
: > : > > one
: > : > > side and xp on the other but I don't want either to know about
: each
: > : > > other. So do I install the partition creating program and hope
: for
: > : > > the
: > : > > best and then install xp on the side I want? I have never even
: used
: > : a
: > : > > pc with partitions so I haven't a clue. Thanks again.-
: > : > >
: > : > > If your time is worth anything, you'd be better off to buy
: another
: > : > > hard
: > : > > drive. New ones aren't that high anymore and you might pick up a
: > : used
: > : > > 20-
: > : > > 30 gig drive on eBay for little or nothing.
: > : > > Just hook it up as slave and install XP on that. If you do a
: > : standard
: > : > > installation with the XP CD, it will give you the option to
: install
: > : it
: > : > > on
: > : > > the second partiton (second drive in this case). After you get
: it
: > : > > installed, you'll have the option to boot into XP or 98 when you
: > : boot
: > : > > up.
: > : > > Your Windows 98 files will be visible from XP, but your XP drive
: > : will
: > : > > not
: > : > > be visible from Windows 98. Unless you choose to format the
: second
: > : > > drive
: > : > > in Fat 32 instead of NTFS (not recommended).
: > : > > If you try to partiton your present drive (which can be
: dangerous)
: > : you
: > : > > will severely limit the amount of free disk space you have for
: both
: > : > > systems.
: > : > >
: > : > > --
: > : > > --- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your
: > : mother. ---
: > : >
: > : >
: > : > --
: > : > PSYCHOPIXIE
: > :
: >
: >
:
Anonymous
March 10, 2005 8:29:38 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Good Lord, Dan. Can't you read? I told you, I'm *not* the one to explain
it all. There are better and more current places to learn about these
issues and I gave you two of them.

By the way, in any thread where I have already participated, there is no
need to add "Att: Gary S. Terhune" to the subject line. I read every
single post in threads to which I have contributed. In fact, I generally
read *every* post unless I've been gone for a very long time. But I
usually read "my" threads first.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
news:o BTEYvUJFHA.2928@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> All right, I will follow your advice, Gary. Perhaps your next article
can be
> about this issue -- hint, hint -- evil grin <eg>
>
> "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:eEukjPOJFHA.2764@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> : I used the phrase, "a certain amount of risk", and went on to
indicate
> : what I meant by that. I don't see how I can make myself any clearer
than
> : that.
> :
> : If you intend to separate your existing systems from each other,
there
> : are definitely some things you need to do with regard to the XP boot
> : management files, but I'm not the one to explain it. I think I did
it
> : once, about three years ago. Ask in the XP groups, or in the forums
at
> : BootItNG.com
> :
> : --
> : Gary S. Terhune
> : MS MVP Shell/User
> : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> :
> : "Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
> : news:o U4DVuNJFHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> : > Gary does using BootItNG carry a large amount of risk as well. I
am
> : > considering repartioning my XPPRO side and would like your opinion
on
> : this.
> : > Also I am using the default boot.ini with some changes and how is
this
> : likely
> : > to affect my dual 98SE/XPPRO. side if I decide to repartition
XPPRO.
> : I
> : > currently have 98SE on one large Fat32 partiton and XPPRO on one
large
> : NTFS
> : > partion but I am considering tightening things up in my system and
> : would
> : > appreciate any advice that you could give to me. Thanks in advace
and
> : have a
> : > wonderful day.
> : >
> : > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
> : > news:eT08l%23HJFHA.3812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> : > : While you haven't told us how much free space you currently have
you
> : may
> : > : simply not have sufficient free space remaining to make it
feasible.
> : > : It's also true that repartitioning carries a certain amount of
risk.
> : > : I've done it hundreds of times, but I can't say they've *all*
gone
> : > : without a hitch. The separate HD is definitely the better
solution,
> : and
> : > : I'm surprised that your system wouldn't have room for another,
but
> : then
> : > : again, I don't know what system we're dealing with.
> : > :
> : > : But, since you have an XP system to familiarize yourself with,
> : you're
> : > : definitely wise to not mess with the other system.
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : Gary S. Terhune
> : > : MS MVP Shell/User
> : > : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> : > : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
> : > :
> : > : "PSYCHOPIXIE" <PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com> wrote in
> : message
> : > : news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com...
> : > : >
> : > : > I see. Thank you for your advise about my hard drive size. I
> : don't
> : > : > think I can hook up a 2nd hard drive to my pc. There isn't
enough
> : > : space
> : > : > for that according to some systems guy I spoke to at work. He
also
> : > : > seemed to think that there wasn't the right connection inside
or
> : > : > something. For the moment I will leave my poor pc alone. I
will
> : use
> : > : xp
> : > : > on the laptop I plan to buy and keep win98se on my old pc,
well
> : unless
> : > : I
> : > : > get the urge to upgrade it to xp but I think from what people
have
> : > : said
> : > : > here that, that would be a bad idea.
> : > : > Thanks again
> : > : >
> : > : > Menno Hershberger Wrote:
> : > : > > PSYCHOPIXIE PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com wrote in
> : > : > > news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com:
> : > : > > -
> : > : > >
> : > : > > Thank you for muddling through my very inexperienced
questions
> : and
> : > : > > ideas. I was reading about creating partitions in a ''all
about
> : > : > > windows' sort of book and it makes it sound a bit risky for
a
> : novice
> : > : > > like me. My hard drive size is about 13.5gb and there is
about
> : 5gb
> : > : > > free at present but I could fairly easily free up more by
> : > : > > uninstalling
> : > : > > one of the many programs I never use. As I mentioned I use
> : windows
> : > : > > 98se and the processor speed is about 850mhz. From what I've
> : read I
> : > : > > personally would like to create a partition so that win98se
runs
> : on
> : > : > > one
> : > : > > side and xp on the other but I don't want either to know
about
> : each
> : > : > > other. So do I install the partition creating program and
hope
> : for
> : > : > > the
> : > : > > best and then install xp on the side I want? I have never
even
> : used
> : > : a
> : > : > > pc with partitions so I haven't a clue. Thanks again.-
> : > : > >
> : > : > > If your time is worth anything, you'd be better off to buy
> : another
> : > : > > hard
> : > : > > drive. New ones aren't that high anymore and you might pick
up a
> : > : used
> : > : > > 20-
> : > : > > 30 gig drive on eBay for little or nothing.
> : > : > > Just hook it up as slave and install XP on that. If you do a
> : > : standard
> : > : > > installation with the XP CD, it will give you the option to
> : install
> : > : it
> : > : > > on
> : > : > > the second partiton (second drive in this case). After you
get
> : it
> : > : > > installed, you'll have the option to boot into XP or 98 when
you
> : > : boot
> : > : > > up.
> : > : > > Your Windows 98 files will be visible from XP, but your XP
drive
> : > : will
> : > : > > not
> : > : > > be visible from Windows 98. Unless you choose to format the
> : second
> : > : > > drive
> : > : > > in Fat 32 instead of NTFS (not recommended).
> : > : > > If you try to partiton your present drive (which can be
> : dangerous)
> : > : you
> : > : > > will severely limit the amount of free disk space you have
for
> : both
> : > : > > systems.
> : > : > >
> : > : > > --
> : > : > > --- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your
> : > : mother. ---
> : > : >
> : > : >
> : > : > --
> : > : > PSYCHOPIXIE
> : > :
> : >
> : >
> :
>
>
March 10, 2005 8:34:41 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

I understand and will comply with your requests. Have a great day!

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:ezSgqUXJFHA.3336@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
: Good Lord, Dan. Can't you read? I told you, I'm *not* the one to explain
: it all. There are better and more current places to learn about these
: issues and I gave you two of them.
:
: By the way, in any thread where I have already participated, there is no
: need to add "Att: Gary S. Terhune" to the subject line. I read every
: single post in threads to which I have contributed. In fact, I generally
: read *every* post unless I've been gone for a very long time. But I
: usually read "my" threads first.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
: news:o BTEYvUJFHA.2928@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
: > All right, I will follow your advice, Gary. Perhaps your next article
: can be
: > about this issue -- hint, hint -- evil grin <eg>
: >
: > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
: > news:eEukjPOJFHA.2764@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
: > : I used the phrase, "a certain amount of risk", and went on to
: indicate
: > : what I meant by that. I don't see how I can make myself any clearer
: than
: > : that.
: > :
: > : If you intend to separate your existing systems from each other,
: there
: > : are definitely some things you need to do with regard to the XP boot
: > : management files, but I'm not the one to explain it. I think I did
: it
: > : once, about three years ago. Ask in the XP groups, or in the forums
: at
: > : BootItNG.com
: > :
: > : --
: > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : MS MVP Shell/User
: > : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: > : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
: > :
: > : "Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
: > : news:o U4DVuNJFHA.3188@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
: > : > Gary does using BootItNG carry a large amount of risk as well. I
: am
: > : > considering repartioning my XPPRO side and would like your opinion
: on
: > : this.
: > : > Also I am using the default boot.ini with some changes and how is
: this
: > : likely
: > : > to affect my dual 98SE/XPPRO. side if I decide to repartition
: XPPRO.
: > : I
: > : > currently have 98SE on one large Fat32 partiton and XPPRO on one
: large
: > : NTFS
: > : > partion but I am considering tightening things up in my system and
: > : would
: > : > appreciate any advice that you could give to me. Thanks in advace
: and
: > : have a
: > : > wonderful day.
: > : >
: > : > "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
: > : > news:eT08l%23HJFHA.3812@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
: > : > : While you haven't told us how much free space you currently have
: you
: > : may
: > : > : simply not have sufficient free space remaining to make it
: feasible.
: > : > : It's also true that repartitioning carries a certain amount of
: risk.
: > : > : I've done it hundreds of times, but I can't say they've *all*
: gone
: > : > : without a hitch. The separate HD is definitely the better
: solution,
: > : and
: > : > : I'm surprised that your system wouldn't have room for another,
: but
: > : then
: > : > : again, I don't know what system we're dealing with.
: > : > :
: > : > : But, since you have an XP system to familiarize yourself with,
: > : you're
: > : > : definitely wise to not mess with the other system.
: > : > :
: > : > : --
: > : > : Gary S. Terhune
: > : > : MS MVP Shell/User
: > : > : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: > : > : http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
: > : > :
: > : > : "PSYCHOPIXIE" <PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com> wrote in
: > : message
: > : > : news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com...
: > : > : >
: > : > : > I see. Thank you for your advise about my hard drive size. I
: > : don't
: > : > : > think I can hook up a 2nd hard drive to my pc. There isn't
: enough
: > : > : space
: > : > : > for that according to some systems guy I spoke to at work. He
: also
: > : > : > seemed to think that there wasn't the right connection inside
: or
: > : > : > something. For the moment I will leave my poor pc alone. I
: will
: > : use
: > : > : xp
: > : > : > on the laptop I plan to buy and keep win98se on my old pc,
: well
: > : unless
: > : > : I
: > : > : > get the urge to upgrade it to xp but I think from what people
: have
: > : > : said
: > : > : > here that, that would be a bad idea.
: > : > : > Thanks again
: > : > : >
: > : > : > Menno Hershberger Wrote:
: > : > : > > PSYCHOPIXIE PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com wrote in
: > : > : > > news:p SYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com:
: > : > : > > -
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > > Thank you for muddling through my very inexperienced
: questions
: > : and
: > : > : > > ideas. I was reading about creating partitions in a ''all
: about
: > : > : > > windows' sort of book and it makes it sound a bit risky for
: a
: > : novice
: > : > : > > like me. My hard drive size is about 13.5gb and there is
: about
: > : 5gb
: > : > : > > free at present but I could fairly easily free up more by
: > : > : > > uninstalling
: > : > : > > one of the many programs I never use. As I mentioned I use
: > : windows
: > : > : > > 98se and the processor speed is about 850mhz. From what I've
: > : read I
: > : > : > > personally would like to create a partition so that win98se
: runs
: > : on
: > : > : > > one
: > : > : > > side and xp on the other but I don't want either to know
: about
: > : each
: > : > : > > other. So do I install the partition creating program and
: hope
: > : for
: > : > : > > the
: > : > : > > best and then install xp on the side I want? I have never
: even
: > : used
: > : > : a
: > : > : > > pc with partitions so I haven't a clue. Thanks again.-
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > > If your time is worth anything, you'd be better off to buy
: > : another
: > : > : > > hard
: > : > : > > drive. New ones aren't that high anymore and you might pick
: up a
: > : > : used
: > : > : > > 20-
: > : > : > > 30 gig drive on eBay for little or nothing.
: > : > : > > Just hook it up as slave and install XP on that. If you do a
: > : > : standard
: > : > : > > installation with the XP CD, it will give you the option to
: > : install
: > : > : it
: > : > : > > on
: > : > : > > the second partiton (second drive in this case). After you
: get
: > : it
: > : > : > > installed, you'll have the option to boot into XP or 98 when
: you
: > : > : boot
: > : > : > > up.
: > : > : > > Your Windows 98 files will be visible from XP, but your XP
: drive
: > : > : will
: > : > : > > not
: > : > : > > be visible from Windows 98. Unless you choose to format the
: > : second
: > : > : > > drive
: > : > : > > in Fat 32 instead of NTFS (not recommended).
: > : > : > > If you try to partiton your present drive (which can be
: > : dangerous)
: > : > : you
: > : > : > > will severely limit the amount of free disk space you have
: for
: > : both
: > : > : > > systems.
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > > --
: > : > : > > --- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your
: > : > : mother. ---
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : > : > --
: > : > : > PSYCHOPIXIE
: > : > :
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: >
: >
:
!