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Hello everyone, through out this year about this new Physx card which would enable new reallistic effects in terms of eviroment-user interaction, well Im clear on all its features, but I dont know if the card is available or not, still Im planning on pucharsing it as soon as it comes out.

Rig:

Pentium 4 3.0 e (ht)
Asus P4-P800 E deluxe
2048MB DDR 400 2-3-3-6 XML corsair
Evga CO Superclock (460/1350) 7800gs agp
SB X-FI extreme music (Pci port)
Wireless Card (Pci Port)
1wd 74gig 10k RPM raptor


Do you think is worth it to buy a physx card to this rig?

Another important point is that if the pci bus will give enough bandwith to the physx to do its processes (I have a sound blaster x-fi and a wireless card connected to the pci bus).

To the people that say that my rig is old etc...etc I know for now Im waiting until next 2 new architectures (conroe, Am2) to buy, and Im expecting that this investment (physx card) will still be usefull in my next rig (Im planning to build it in a year or 2 probbably)

So please recommend what to do, should I buy this card or not, and if Do would the Pci bus give me whole advantage of it?


PD: Do you know when this card will be available?

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Yes, but theres ones problem....its not coming out to the market stand alone until 2007, or later. you can only buy them through custom made rigs through dell, falcon northwest, and alienware...which, if you try and build a system off any of their sites, with that physx card, you are paying well over 3 grand most of the time. It will be worth it, most defenelty tho when they do start selling them singly. the good thing about them is, not only will it improve physics, but it will take strain off the cpu and the video card during gaming for better performance...right now the graphics card has to do visual displays and physics at the same time, that card will def improve over all performance also. Pci bus will give plenty of bandwidth...the sole purpose of this card, is just to handle one simple thing, physics. if a video card can do very good phsyics while doing astounding visuals, one small boost from a pci card will be PLENTY!

Reply to LordBelial

I do believe that BFG Tech and Asus will be selling the physics card by next month as an individual unit for around $300. I even found a site in UK that is already offering preorder. But I would wait till I get a game that fully supports this new physics card.

Reply to chuckshissle

Well thanx for your advice, I know there arent any games available but still I will start saving to get the physx as soon as it gets out in the standalone market.



:P

Reply to paztelu

as far as i know the gfx card does not do physics. it is the cpu. the Ageia card will also not help in any way unless used for a supported game. it will not make a system run games better, only allow it to do more physcis. too many people are confused as to what this card will do. apart form physcis, nothing.

Reply to strangestranger

Might as well start saving for it but I wouldnt buy it till I saw some benchmarks on new game that you want to play. Your 300 dollars might be better spent on some other part on your system.

IMHO the PPU card VS the sli GPU solution is the better one based on what has been posted by both camps.

Reply to zeekle

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Might as well start saving for it but I wouldnt buy it till I saw some benchmarks on new game that you want to play. Your 300 dollars might be better spent on some other part on your system.

IMHO the PPU card VS the sli GPU solution is the better one based on what has been posted by both camps.



Screw that, I woulnd't buy it untill there's games out there games that are physics intensive enought to actually warrant a dedicated physics processor.

I wonder what the academic community thinks about this for scientific type simulation software.

Reply to MadCraiZ

Agreed. While I expect to get one at some point, I will wait for a month or three to check the product reviews. And to wait for a Must Have game that supports it. There'll be a bunch of games that support it this year but I haven't seen one listed yet that I'm dying to have. Otherwise as was said, the card just sits there doing nothing if a particular game doesn't support its approach. Since I'm building a new system in the first half of 2007, I'm really hoping that somebody puts that chip onto a mobo. Then it's just there and I can freely associate with either ATI or Nvidia and not worry about it.

Reply to SciFiMan

Ghost Recon, adv warfighting, supports it, Also City of Villians.

I know only 2 titles, but still, a start. I probably will get the card myself, AM interested in the Ghost Recon, more so, for the ability to really get into the game.

BF2. is cool, Fear is cool, but now want some more Eye-candy. TO be really in the game , to say

Reply to rippleyaliens

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...AM interested in the Ghost Recon, more so, for the ability to really get into the game...



Try paintballing.

Reply to MadCraiZ

or join the ARMY plenty of wars going on right now, you'll really feel like your there :twisted:

Reply to strangestranger

Well I understand what this card can or cannot do so dont think Im confused , my concern was If it was worth it buying it and if it was compatible with my sistem, I now know that it is. To the one who said that I should invest money in some other component? I dont think there is something I can buy to this old AGP system, I already have:

The best graphic card for agp: 7800gs

2 gig of the best ddr400 ram: XML xpert 2-3-3-6

A super DVD burner: Plextor 760a

A super sound card: X-FI xtreme music (Pci)

The fastest HD for Sata: Raptor 74gig 10K RPM

2 Ide 40gig and 1 Sata 80 gig HD

A average processor: Pentium 4 3.0E

A good PSU: Thermaltake 420watts


So what is missing in my system that could make me buy some other component instead of the PhysX card.

Reply to paztelu

actually i think it was me who said you were confused and the reason was you sounded like you thought this card ws going to boost your overall system performance, which it won't. again i doub't that system will adequately run the games that will utilise the Ageia chip.

also is the x-fi pci-e i thought it was pci, you only have an AGP board so it is doubtful you have a pci-e slot on your mobo

Reply to strangestranger

Perhaps I am wrong, but I don't really see benchmarks actually showing the capability of the card, as I'm not convinced you'll see any great improvement in fps, for example. What you will see is much better eye-candy in terms of physics (explosions, etc), which just may in fact cause a performance hit to the video card, or perhaps equal out to a net zero gain in performance. Time will tell.

Reply to Pain

In response to try paint balling,
LOL--- I was a US marine in Desert Storm, Been there done that with the real stuff.. Actually tried Paint ball, but i kinda wanted to push the limits. Just not my thing. But i do enjoy computers, ALOT.. It is how i make my living.

But like everyone else, once you do a job for 10 years, you have to keep forcing yourself to do it. For me Playing Video games, is my outlet.
Loved SWG till they nerfed it to hell. Now i am all over BF2. But like everyone else, i want something more.. out of a game. I dont buy computers, with high end cards, and disk drives, to brag about benchmarks. Infact never benchmarked my system, i am all about the games, and more realism.

Once playing BF2, got with a team, and all we did, was have the squad leader hover at 500 ft, in a chopper, while the rest of us, 5 guys, halo'ed out of the chopper, to take bases. In my many years of gaming, that was the most realistic, portion of a game, i have ever played, the rush, the realism..
That is what i crave out of games.. IF this physics card does that for me, you bet i am in. Besides only $250-300 $$$.... I blow $200 in electricity a month, for my 8 server, home lab.

Only money, and time.

PS., and join the Army??? If i wanted to be a puzzy i would, but being it is, that i am a Marine, with more kills, then i personally want to remember, i will leave that to the young guys..

Reply to rippleyaliens

Middle of May they are supposed to be out. BFG and Asus although not to sure about Asus I think they are sticking to OEM's.
There is a list of game's over at http://physx.ageia.com/ .
Cell factor is one game that might be worth buying a card for, watch the footage.
As for it being compatible it is going to be PCI so as long as you have an open slot you are fine.
As for it making your system faster probably not unless game developers enable physics to be offloaded to the PPU. CPU's do the physic's right now a struggle allot with it. I don’t think I would buy SLI or crossfire for $300 to $500 only to have that card dedicated to physics. Would much rather have a dedicated PPU.
rippleyaliens you are funny you say you don’t benchmark but your e-pen** is huge with your hard drives 7800gtx and dual 3.2Ghz processors.

Reply to Vascular

EBAY is your friend.
I demand fast DISK I/O..
My friend has 4 Compaq racks with 14x18gb 15k drives in each rack. Hooked up to a 4channel raid controller.
I told him, that is just stupid and insane, TILL i worked with it, OMG...
No hesitation on ANYTHING, and i do mean anything. Transfer rate was uncalculatable using the sisoft. Unzipping files, smoked my system, and i take pride in mine. Manipulating files, were just rediculous. Hence, you get what you pay for, in everything.....

Not a E-penxxx,, but more so, "Why not get it"

Reply to rippleyaliens

you might not be able to buy anything else for this system but you could save the cash for your next system.

Unless you just got money burning a hole in your pocket

Reply to zeekle

About the pci express thing it was misspelled it was just PCI. about the Physx card Im not expecting to help my system perf, Im just expecting to see alot of physical interactions between the user and the eviroment, obviously with compatible games, I have made my mind and Im going to buy this card as soon as it gets out, and about saving money, this is practically an investment beause even though I may plan to build a new rig, I wont have to buy a physx card then.


Thanx

Reply to paztelu

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....its not coming out to the market stand alone until 2007, or later.

Actually, they'll be out in May.

Reply to Heyyou27

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Well I understand what this card can or cannot do so dont think Im confused , my concern was If it was worth it buying it and if it was compatible with my sistem, I now know that it is. To the one who said that I should invest money in some other component? I dont think there is something I can buy to this old AGP system, I already have:

The best graphic card for agp: 7800gs

2 gig of the best ddr400 ram: XML xpert 2-3-3-6

A super DVD burner: Plextor 760a

A super sound card: X-FI xtreme music (Pci)

The fastest HD for Sata: Raptor 74gig 10K RPM

2 Ide 40gig and 1 Sata 80 gig HD

A average processor: Pentium 4 3.0E

A good PSU: Thermaltake 420watts


So what is missing in my system that could make me buy some other component instead of the PhysX card.



Point made! Get the card when it comes out next month in two flavors, 128mb and 256mb. Happy gaming. :wink:

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