Should I upgrade my win98se pc...........

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

Thanks for the link. I do have generally more than the stated
requirements to run xp but can someone tell me what 'video ram' is? I
know my pc has about 400 and something mb of normal ram but when people
talk video cards etc I get a bit confused. Mine is all built in I
presume as I use a dvd drive with that intervideo thingy to play films
and all is well on my current os. I don't have any problems playing the
sims games either although after adding all those expansion packs
starting the game up can be a little slow.

Gary S. Terhune Wrote:
> Which means you have 6 to 8 GB used. Add 1/3, or approx. 2 to 2.7 GB
> (so that the result is 25% free space) and you end up with a minimum
> partition size of 8 to 10.7 GB. If it's on the low end of that scale,
> you have room to install an XP system--but not much room left over. If
> it's actually more like 8 GB now occupied, you simply don't have
> enough
> room left to do more than install the XP OS to play with, with very
> few
> and very small additional apps.
>
> Go with your laptop, and if you later decide to upgrade the desktop,
> get
> another drive for the job.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "PSYCHOPIXIE" PSYCHOPIXIE.1lnabz@news.win98banter.com wrote in message
> news:PSYCHOPIXIE.1lnabz@news.win98banter.com...-
>
> Last time I looked I had about 5-7 gb free on my harddrive. Like I-
> said-
> before I do have a lot of unnecessary programs on it though so I
> could
> free up more space. I have been poking around on my mothers laptop
> which runs xp and have decided to buy a laptop and then if I keep
> thinking about it I know I need to take the risk and upgrade to xp on
> my pc.
>
>
> Gary S. Terhune Wrote:-
> While you haven't told us how much free space you currently have you
> may
> simply not have sufficient free space remaining to make it feasible.
> It's also true that repartitioning carries a certain amount of risk.
> I've done it hundreds of times, but I can't say they've *all* gone
> without a hitch. The separate HD is definitely the better solution,
> and
> I'm surprised that your system wouldn't have room for another, but
> then
> again, I don't know what system we're dealing with.
>
> But, since you have an XP system to familiarize yourself with,--
> you're--
> definitely wise to not mess with the other system.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "PSYCHOPIXIE" PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com wrote in--
> message--
> news:PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com...-
>
> I see. Thank you for your advise about my hard drive size. I don't
> think I can hook up a 2nd hard drive to my pc. There isn't enough-
> space-
> for that according to some systems guy I spoke to at work. He also
> seemed to think that there wasn't the right connection inside or
> something. For the moment I will leave my poor pc alone. I will--
> use---
> xp-
> on the laptop I plan to buy and keep win98se on my old pc, well
> unless-
> I-
> get the urge to upgrade it to xp but I think from what people have-
> said-
> here that, that would be a bad idea.
> Thanks again
>
> Menno Hershberger Wrote:-
> PSYCHOPIXIE PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com wrote in
> news:PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com:
> -
>
> Thank you for muddling through my very inexperienced questions and
> ideas. I was reading about creating partitions in a ''all about
> windows' sort of book and it makes it sound a bit risky for a novice
> like me. My hard drive size is about 13.5gb and there is about 5gb
> free at present but I could fairly easily free up more by
> uninstalling
> one of the many programs I never use. As I mentioned I use windows
> 98se and the processor speed is about 850mhz. From what I've read I
> personally would like to create a partition so that win98se runs on
> one
> side and xp on the other but I don't want either to know about each
> other. So do I install the partition creating program and hope for
> the
> best and then install xp on the side I want? I have never even
> used--
> a--
> pc with partitions so I haven't a clue. Thanks again.-
>
> If your time is worth anything, you'd be better off to buy another
> hard
> drive. New ones aren't that high anymore and you might pick up a--
> used--
> 20-
> 30 gig drive on eBay for little or nothing.
> Just hook it up as slave and install XP on that. If you do a--
> standard--
> installation with the XP CD, it will give you the option to
> install--
> it--
> on
> the second partiton (second drive in this case). After you get it
> installed, you'll have the option to boot into XP or 98 when you--
> boot--
> up.
> Your Windows 98 files will be visible from XP, but your XP drive--
> will--
> not
> be visible from Windows 98. Unless you choose to format the second
> drive
> in Fat 32 instead of NTFS (not recommended).
> If you try to partiton your present drive (which can be dangerous)--
> you--
> will severely limit the amount of free disk space you have for both
> systems.
>
> --
> --- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your--
> mother. ----
>
>
> --
> PSYCHOPIXIE--
>
>
> --
> PSYCHOPIXIE-


--
PSYCHOPIXIE
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  1. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    This is a great reason to stay with the 9x line and just update to 98SE.
    From your post, I gather that you have shared ram. I have an ATI Radeon 9200
    with 128mb of video ram and AGP 8x capabilities. My 512mb's of DDR ram is
    seperate on my 2.4 Ghz Intel P4 machine with a 430 watt Antec power supply.
    I have more than enough power for my current needs as well as supplying my
    power needs in the future. Your shared ram is part of your total ram so if
    you have 128 mb's of ram for instance you may only have 120 mb's of ram if 8
    megs of ram are going towards video. Does this make any sense? I think
    someone else may explain it better than I can but at least I gave it a try.
    :>

    "PSYCHOPIXIE" <PSYCHOPIXIE.1lo7nz@news.win98banter.com> wrote in message
    news:PSYCHOPIXIE.1lo7nz@news.win98banter.com...
    :
    : Thanks for the link. I do have generally more than the stated
    : requirements to run xp but can someone tell me what 'video ram' is? I
    : know my pc has about 400 and something mb of normal ram but when people
    : talk video cards etc I get a bit confused. Mine is all built in I
    : presume as I use a dvd drive with that intervideo thingy to play films
    : and all is well on my current os. I don't have any problems playing the
    : sims games either although after adding all those expansion packs
    : starting the game up can be a little slow.
    :
    : Gary S. Terhune Wrote:
    : > Which means you have 6 to 8 GB used. Add 1/3, or approx. 2 to 2.7 GB
    : > (so that the result is 25% free space) and you end up with a minimum
    : > partition size of 8 to 10.7 GB. If it's on the low end of that scale,
    : > you have room to install an XP system--but not much room left over. If
    : > it's actually more like 8 GB now occupied, you simply don't have
    : > enough
    : > room left to do more than install the XP OS to play with, with very
    : > few
    : > and very small additional apps.
    : >
    : > Go with your laptop, and if you later decide to upgrade the desktop,
    : > get
    : > another drive for the job.
    : >
    : > --
    : > Gary S. Terhune
    : > MS MVP Shell/User
    : > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
    : > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
    : >
    : > "PSYCHOPIXIE" PSYCHOPIXIE.1lnabz@news.win98banter.com wrote in message
    : > news:PSYCHOPIXIE.1lnabz@news.win98banter.com...-
    : >
    : > Last time I looked I had about 5-7 gb free on my harddrive. Like I-
    : > said-
    : > before I do have a lot of unnecessary programs on it though so I
    : > could
    : > free up more space. I have been poking around on my mothers laptop
    : > which runs xp and have decided to buy a laptop and then if I keep
    : > thinking about it I know I need to take the risk and upgrade to xp on
    : > my pc.
    : >
    : >
    : > Gary S. Terhune Wrote:-
    : > While you haven't told us how much free space you currently have you
    : > may
    : > simply not have sufficient free space remaining to make it feasible.
    : > It's also true that repartitioning carries a certain amount of risk.
    : > I've done it hundreds of times, but I can't say they've *all* gone
    : > without a hitch. The separate HD is definitely the better solution,
    : > and
    : > I'm surprised that your system wouldn't have room for another, but
    : > then
    : > again, I don't know what system we're dealing with.
    : >
    : > But, since you have an XP system to familiarize yourself with,--
    : > you're--
    : > definitely wise to not mess with the other system.
    : >
    : > --
    : > Gary S. Terhune
    : > MS MVP Shell/User
    : > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
    : > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
    : >
    : > "PSYCHOPIXIE" PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com wrote in--
    : > message--
    : > news:PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com...-
    : >
    : > I see. Thank you for your advise about my hard drive size. I don't
    : > think I can hook up a 2nd hard drive to my pc. There isn't enough-
    : > space-
    : > for that according to some systems guy I spoke to at work. He also
    : > seemed to think that there wasn't the right connection inside or
    : > something. For the moment I will leave my poor pc alone. I will--
    : > use---
    : > xp-
    : > on the laptop I plan to buy and keep win98se on my old pc, well
    : > unless-
    : > I-
    : > get the urge to upgrade it to xp but I think from what people have-
    : > said-
    : > here that, that would be a bad idea.
    : > Thanks again
    : >
    : > Menno Hershberger Wrote:-
    : > PSYCHOPIXIE PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com wrote in
    : > news:PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com:
    : > -
    : >
    : > Thank you for muddling through my very inexperienced questions and
    : > ideas. I was reading about creating partitions in a ''all about
    : > windows' sort of book and it makes it sound a bit risky for a novice
    : > like me. My hard drive size is about 13.5gb and there is about 5gb
    : > free at present but I could fairly easily free up more by
    : > uninstalling
    : > one of the many programs I never use. As I mentioned I use windows
    : > 98se and the processor speed is about 850mhz. From what I've read I
    : > personally would like to create a partition so that win98se runs on
    : > one
    : > side and xp on the other but I don't want either to know about each
    : > other. So do I install the partition creating program and hope for
    : > the
    : > best and then install xp on the side I want? I have never even
    : > used--
    : > a--
    : > pc with partitions so I haven't a clue. Thanks again.-
    : >
    : > If your time is worth anything, you'd be better off to buy another
    : > hard
    : > drive. New ones aren't that high anymore and you might pick up a--
    : > used--
    : > 20-
    : > 30 gig drive on eBay for little or nothing.
    : > Just hook it up as slave and install XP on that. If you do a--
    : > standard--
    : > installation with the XP CD, it will give you the option to
    : > install--
    : > it--
    : > on
    : > the second partiton (second drive in this case). After you get it
    : > installed, you'll have the option to boot into XP or 98 when you--
    : > boot--
    : > up.
    : > Your Windows 98 files will be visible from XP, but your XP drive--
    : > will--
    : > not
    : > be visible from Windows 98. Unless you choose to format the second
    : > drive
    : > in Fat 32 instead of NTFS (not recommended).
    : > If you try to partiton your present drive (which can be dangerous)--
    : > you--
    : > will severely limit the amount of free disk space you have for both
    : > systems.
    : >
    : > --
    : > --- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your--
    : > mother. ----
    : >
    : >
    : > --
    : > PSYCHOPIXIE--
    : >
    : >
    : > --
    : > PSYCHOPIXIE-
    :
    :
    : --
    : PSYCHOPIXIE
  2. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion (More info?)

    Video requires a certain amount of its own RAM, RAM that is dedicated to
    video processing. If you have a plug-in video card, it usually has its
    own RAM. If your video is "onboard"--integrated into the motherboard--it
    will typically grab some of the system RAM. Two considerations: How much
    RAM does the video use, and how much of that comes from the system RAM?
    The former is important in that its an indication of how much your video
    adapter can handle, the latter is important in that you have to deduct
    any system RAM that is devoted to video from the total before applying
    that number to any "minimum requirement" specs.

    Example: You have 96MB of RAM, but your onboard video uses 8 of those.
    For the purposes of determining compliance with minimum requirements,
    you only have 88 MB of system RAM.

    --
    Gary S. Terhune
    MS MVP Shell/User
    http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
    http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

    "PSYCHOPIXIE" <PSYCHOPIXIE.1lo7nz@news.win98banter.com> wrote in message
    news:PSYCHOPIXIE.1lo7nz@news.win98banter.com...
    >
    > Thanks for the link. I do have generally more than the stated
    > requirements to run xp but can someone tell me what 'video ram' is? I
    > know my pc has about 400 and something mb of normal ram but when
    people
    > talk video cards etc I get a bit confused. Mine is all built in I
    > presume as I use a dvd drive with that intervideo thingy to play films
    > and all is well on my current os. I don't have any problems playing
    the
    > sims games either although after adding all those expansion packs
    > starting the game up can be a little slow.
    >
    > Gary S. Terhune Wrote:
    > > Which means you have 6 to 8 GB used. Add 1/3, or approx. 2 to 2.7
    GB
    > > (so that the result is 25% free space) and you end up with a minimum
    > > partition size of 8 to 10.7 GB. If it's on the low end of that
    scale,
    > > you have room to install an XP system--but not much room left over.
    If
    > > it's actually more like 8 GB now occupied, you simply don't have
    > > enough
    > > room left to do more than install the XP OS to play with, with very
    > > few
    > > and very small additional apps.
    > >
    > > Go with your laptop, and if you later decide to upgrade the desktop,
    > > get
    > > another drive for the job.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Gary S. Terhune
    > > MS MVP Shell/User
    > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
    > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
    > >
    > > "PSYCHOPIXIE" PSYCHOPIXIE.1lnabz@news.win98banter.com wrote in
    message
    > > news:PSYCHOPIXIE.1lnabz@news.win98banter.com...-
    > >
    > > Last time I looked I had about 5-7 gb free on my harddrive. Like I-
    > > said-
    > > before I do have a lot of unnecessary programs on it though so I
    > > could
    > > free up more space. I have been poking around on my mothers laptop
    > > which runs xp and have decided to buy a laptop and then if I keep
    > > thinking about it I know I need to take the risk and upgrade to xp
    on
    > > my pc.
    > >
    > >
    > > Gary S. Terhune Wrote:-
    > > While you haven't told us how much free space you currently have you
    > > may
    > > simply not have sufficient free space remaining to make it feasible.
    > > It's also true that repartitioning carries a certain amount of risk.
    > > I've done it hundreds of times, but I can't say they've *all* gone
    > > without a hitch. The separate HD is definitely the better solution,
    > > and
    > > I'm surprised that your system wouldn't have room for another, but
    > > then
    > > again, I don't know what system we're dealing with.
    > >
    > > But, since you have an XP system to familiarize yourself with,--
    > > you're--
    > > definitely wise to not mess with the other system.
    > >
    > > --
    > > Gary S. Terhune
    > > MS MVP Shell/User
    > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
    > > http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
    > >
    > > "PSYCHOPIXIE" PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com wrote in--
    > > message--
    > > news:PSYCHOPIXIE.1lkyzz@news.win98banter.com...-
    > >
    > > I see. Thank you for your advise about my hard drive size. I don't
    > > think I can hook up a 2nd hard drive to my pc. There isn't enough-
    > > space-
    > > for that according to some systems guy I spoke to at work. He also
    > > seemed to think that there wasn't the right connection inside or
    > > something. For the moment I will leave my poor pc alone. I will--
    > > use---
    > > xp-
    > > on the laptop I plan to buy and keep win98se on my old pc, well
    > > unless-
    > > I-
    > > get the urge to upgrade it to xp but I think from what people have-
    > > said-
    > > here that, that would be a bad idea.
    > > Thanks again
    > >
    > > Menno Hershberger Wrote:-
    > > PSYCHOPIXIE PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com wrote in
    > > news:PSYCHOPIXIE.1lj4by@news.win98banter.com:
    > > -
    > >
    > > Thank you for muddling through my very inexperienced questions and
    > > ideas. I was reading about creating partitions in a ''all about
    > > windows' sort of book and it makes it sound a bit risky for a novice
    > > like me. My hard drive size is about 13.5gb and there is about 5gb
    > > free at present but I could fairly easily free up more by
    > > uninstalling
    > > one of the many programs I never use. As I mentioned I use windows
    > > 98se and the processor speed is about 850mhz. From what I've read I
    > > personally would like to create a partition so that win98se runs on
    > > one
    > > side and xp on the other but I don't want either to know about each
    > > other. So do I install the partition creating program and hope for
    > > the
    > > best and then install xp on the side I want? I have never even
    > > used--
    > > a--
    > > pc with partitions so I haven't a clue. Thanks again.-
    > >
    > > If your time is worth anything, you'd be better off to buy another
    > > hard
    > > drive. New ones aren't that high anymore and you might pick up a--
    > > used--
    > > 20-
    > > 30 gig drive on eBay for little or nothing.
    > > Just hook it up as slave and install XP on that. If you do a--
    > > standard--
    > > installation with the XP CD, it will give you the option to
    > > install--
    > > it--
    > > on
    > > the second partiton (second drive in this case). After you get it
    > > installed, you'll have the option to boot into XP or 98 when you--
    > > boot--
    > > up.
    > > Your Windows 98 files will be visible from XP, but your XP drive--
    > > will--
    > > not
    > > be visible from Windows 98. Unless you choose to format the second
    > > drive
    > > in Fat 32 instead of NTFS (not recommended).
    > > If you try to partiton your present drive (which can be dangerous)--
    > > you--
    > > will severely limit the amount of free disk space you have for both
    > > systems.
    > >
    > > --
    > > --- A Freudian slip is when you say one thing but mean your--
    > > mother. ----
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > PSYCHOPIXIE--
    > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > PSYCHOPIXIE-
    >
    >
    > --
    > PSYCHOPIXIE
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