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PCR,
I wrote you again, re... your *right-on* it affects those on dial-up. Mine,
was like you described, exactly, BSOD, but only after dial-up!! However, IE
worked fine offline, I sat and loaded url's off my local drive that I have
created. And, OE worked fine too.
I have uninstalled it, no more problems here... Before, I came to the
group, I did a Google search and made the decision to uninstall it after
reading and then reading here in the the group!!
**SHAME** on Microsoft, obviously this update was not tested in a dial-up
environment!! I only have the required start-up programs for my system, plus
my Pc-cillin, nothing more. As soon as I killed this from starting-up and
running in the backgroumd, yo problem solved!!
Star
"PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
news:%23nzorZ1JFHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Yea, I go for them quickly too, usually w/o even reading the .docs...
>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/Security/bulletin/ms05-002.mspx
> ......Quote.........
> Caveats: None
> ......EOQ...........
>
> BUT, even READING that one wouldn't have helped! In fact, it could
> easily scare one into installing it, horrific as it makes that
> vulnerability sound. (But some are beginning to say MS05-002 [KB891711]
> mat not be needed for Win98 after all.) We would have had to wait a bit,
> to see whether others complained, before trying it for ourselves. Sounds
> like we have the same symptoms. Only IE crashes to a BSOD. Looking at
> your post's Properties & mine...
>
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441
>
> ...I guess we both have that OE update you speak of. But OE is fine. So
> is Explorer. Even IE still worked for me offline from TIFs.
>
>
> --
> Thanks or Good Luck,
> There may be humor in this post, and,
> Naturally, you will not sue,
> should things get worse after this,
> PCR
> pcrrcp@netzero.net
> "Star" <star@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1136jd58g1v03ff@corp.supernews.com...
> | Hi PCR Pro & Everyone....
> | PCR, you know I run Pc-cillin 2005... when Pc-cillin updated via it's
> | Security Checks, I was taken to WU to and receive this update. I
> closed IE
> | and restarted, I always do after WU. I've been out on Goggle seaching
> &
> | reading about this update. Just rec'd update several hours ago.
> |
> | I have *Big* problems w/update... Not w/starting-up, not Internet
> dial-up,
> | but IE won't run period. I saw the update running upon doing
> ctl/alt/del,
> | and I have simply disabled it, but am ready to uninstall it and do a
> scanreg
> | /restore to restore the registry. While out doing my Google searchs...
> | others running Pc-cillin are having the same **problem** as me!!
> |
> | So... for now I killed it from starting-up and running in the
> background
> | only, and I can run IE with no problems... this is real bad news!! I
> did
> | finally get that Update for OE that Microsoft removed for W98-se and I
> had
> | no problems, of course, on that one I did much reading and decided to
> get
> | it. However, I did not do my homework w/this critical update.
> |
> | Star
> |
> | "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
> | news:uW9VzxsJFHA.2936@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> | > I'm hoping MS has not decided to obliterate Win98 with KB891711.exe
> in
> | > retribution for Dan's letter to MS! Anyway...
> | >
> | > I find all is well with KB891711.exe activated, UNTIL I've gone
> online.
> | > Then, IE or any URL will BSOD when clicked. Before that, the URLs
> will
> | > work from TIFs. After going online, URLs again begin to work, after
> | > killing KB891711.exe with Ctrl-Alt-Del. Can it be something NetZero
> is
> | > doing?
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > Thanks or Good Luck,
> | > There may be humor in this post, and,
> | > Naturally, you will not sue,
> | > should things get worse after this,
> | > PCR
> | > pcrrcp@netzero.net
> | > "Brian A." <gonefish'n@afarawaylake> wrote in message
> | > news:eWNTAVsJFHA.1040@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> | > | There is a reason to avoid it for those that can't get Windows to
> | > load. If
> | > | the machine BSOD's only with the update on boot and renders it
> | > unusable,
> | > | then uninstalling/notusing/avoiding the update is recommended. The
> | > reason
> | > | for the BSOD's then needs to be determined whether it be an issue
> with
> | > the
> | > | update, software/hardware or a combination of both.
> | > |
> | > | It may be that you, myself and others have no issue with the
> update
> | > but
> | > | others do and if their machine is needed yet won't run with it,
> then
> | > it
> | > | should not be installed until a definitive cause/solution is
> found.
> | > |
> | > | Perhaps the suggestion by Robert may be best in disabling the CU
> from
> | > | loading in the startup.
> | > |
> | > | From what I see the update creates a folder
> C:\Windows\SytemKB891711
> | > | In that folder is KB891711.exe dated 02/22/05 and Q891711.dll
> dated
> | > | 02/18/05
> | > |
> | > | Now this is a first I've seen where an update has created it's
> own
> | > folder,
> | > | exe and dll in System. Perhaps someone can explain what's up with
> | > that.
> | > |
> | > | --
> | > |
> | > | Brian A.
> | > |
> | > | Conflicts start where information lacks.
> | > |
http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | "Dan" <spamyou@user.nec> wrote in message
> | > | news:eNXhu8qJFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> | > | > The update works fine on my machine -- 98SE with Fat32 and XPPRO
> | > with NTFS
> | > | > on
> | > | > two seperate hard drives. There is no reason to avoid this
> update
> | > because
> | > | > it
> | > | > is a CRITICAL UPDATE and so all users need to work with computer
> | > people to
> | > | > patch their computers and networks before the hackers are able
> to
> | > reverse
> | > | > engineer these new updates and target the 9x users who have not
> | > applied
> | > | > this
> | > | > update.
> | > | >
> | > | > "Jimmost" <Jimmost@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:E315B342-8CE4-47C4-BE44-625F993A1FD6@microsoft.com...
> | > | > : I had similar problems after installing the same update.
> Windows
> | > 98
> | > | > gets
> | > | > to
> | > | > : the point of loading the desktop and then goes to the blue
> screen
> | > of
> | > | > death.
> | > | > : I was able to use abackup image file to restore 98 to an
> earlier
> | > state
> | > | > before
> | > | > : the security update was installed. Windows 98 then worked
> fine.
> | > Each
> | > | > time
> | > | > I
> | > | > : installed the 891711 update Windows would again crash. Aviod
> the
> | > update
> | > | > at
> | > | > : all costs. If you have a backup, you should ge back to before
> the
> | > | > update
> | > | > was
> | > | > : run.
> | > | > :
> | > | > : "arun-win98-user" wrote:
> | > | > :
> | > | > : > Yesterday, I updated the latest critical Win98 patches (they
> | > were
> | > | > security
> | > | > : > related) and since then having a strange problem ... here it
> is.
> | > | > : >
> | > | > : > As Windows begins loading, I can see and move the mouse and
> the
> | > hour
> | > | > glass.
> | > | > : > As soon as the loading gets over, the MOUSE DISAPPEARS and
> if I
> | > touch
> | > | > any
> | > | > key
> | > | > : > on the keyboard, the machine reboots (as if I hit the reset
> | > button)
> | > | > : >
> | > | > : > I now completely unable to use my PC. Any will be greatly
> | > appreciated
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>
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