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March 14, 2005 11:43:06 AM

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My scan disk and disk defrag won't complete - they stop and state that
another program is running - what can I do to get my maintenance completed??
Anonymous
March 14, 2005 11:50:33 AM

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Have a look at the first link in my sig.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"DD" <DD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> My scan disk and disk defrag won't complete - they stop and state that
> another program is running - what can I do to get my maintenance
completed??
March 14, 2005 1:37:56 PM

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Thanks Gary!!
The "WARNING" under #3 - does this mean restart before #3?

Also, where can I find ***NAV's own configuration settings?

And, are you saying if I perform maintenance after the clean boot, I am to
do all the "clean boot" steps again before I restore Normal operating
conditions?

I am not an experienced PC person - you actually think a person like me
can perform all these functions without screwing up? You have been a BIG HELP!
DD

"Gary S. Terhune" wrote:

> Have a look at the first link in my sig.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "DD" <DD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:59E39FAE-DBEF-4FEE-A094-EAB41685B43E@microsoft.com...
> > My scan disk and disk defrag won't complete - they stop and state that
> > another program is running - what can I do to get my maintenance
> completed??
>
>
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March 14, 2005 1:58:25 PM

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"DD" <DD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Gary!!
> The "WARNING" under #3 - does this mean restart before #3?

Yes, that's exactly what it means, though if you have already gone into
MSCONFIG and disabled the Startup items, then clicked OK (Step #1),
you'll be prompted to restart, anyway. There's no need to restart again
after that, at least no until it's time to restore a normal operating
environment.

>
> Also, where can I find ***NAV's own configuration settings?

They vary, but you can usually access the settings you need by
right-clicking the Norton icon in the System Tray, down around where the
clock resides. If you need more specific instructions for your
particular flavor of Norton products, you'll have to ask that specific
question in a separate thread (with an appropriately eye-catching
Subject line.)

>
> And, are you saying if I perform maintenance after the clean boot, I
am to
> do all the "clean boot" steps again before I restore Normal operating
> conditions?

No (I don't think...) What I'm saying is that once maintenance
operations are concluded, you need to go back into MSCONFIG and
re-enable all the startup items, go into Norton and do the same, etc. No
need to clear TEMP and TIF again, etc.

>
> I am not an experienced PC person - you actually think a person like
me
> can perform all these functions without screwing up? You have been a
BIG HELP!
> DD

I did my best to fool-proof them, <smile>. But they *are* written with
one goal being to help familiarize users with their machines' basic
functions. According to my wife, I provide *too* much detail, but I like
to cover all the bases. Note: Since last editing that article, I've come
across another caveat that I need to include when the goal is installing
a program. But unless you're about to install something using Clean Boot
methods, it's not relevant to your case. Once you've gone through the
steps once or twice, you'll find that it all makes much more sense.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
March 14, 2005 5:37:55 PM

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"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Have a look at the first link in my sig.
>
> --
> Gary S. Terhune
> MS MVP Shell/User
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
> http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
>
> "DD" <DD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:59E39FAE-DBEF-4FEE-A094-EAB41685B43E@microsoft.com...
>> My scan disk and disk defrag won't complete - they stop and state that
>> another program is running - what can I do to get my maintenance
> completed??
>

or try it in safemode (but read Gary's page , good info)
Anonymous
March 15, 2005 5:24:22 AM

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http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q287914
Articles about Scandisk
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q286263
Articles about Defrag

I must warn that Scandisk may not do a great job when there is a
great one to do...
http://cquirke.mvps.org/9x/scandisk.htm
Therefore, perhaps UNcheck "Automatically fix errors" on it's front
screen. It will then ask whether you want each error fixed. If it sounds
truly horrible, say "No!", and post the log. The log will be
"C:\Scandisk.log". Do not let it constantly restart, either.
(When running Scandisk in DOS, there won't be such a box to uncheck. You
must do it in "C:\Windows\Command\Scandisk.ini", per cquirke's advice.)
REALLY, in light of all THAT, the BEST thing to do is to have a full
system backup to run to! Would you like my list of backup apps?

1. Turn off screen saver (R-Clk Desktop, Properties, Screen Saver--
None)
2. Turn off power management (Control Panel, Power Management-- Always
On,Never,Never,Never)
3. Disable any permanent internet cable connection, perhaps.
4. Suspend Task Scheduler
5. Turn off interfering programs. Use "StartupCop" or "EndItAll2" from
PCMag (below). Or "START, Run, MSConfig, Startup tab". Note what is
unchecked. Then, go to the General tab & disable the entire Startup
Group, by clicking "Selective.." & unchecking "Load Startup...". Reboot.
Don't forget to re-enable before the next boot.
6. Use "HDValet" from PCMag, or
(a) "Control Panel, Internet Options, Delete Files button, bolt Delete
all offline content, OK, OK"
(b) "START, Run, %TEMP%", & delete all files that will let you. This
will likely be "C:\Windows\Temp". This is best done after a fresh boot,
unless you have not seen the message "Reboot to complete this install".
7. Run Scandisk (Thorough, usually w/o write testing. Check all three
items under "Scandisk, Advanced button, 'Check files for' box". If you
want to be informed as it does a fix, UNcheck "Automatically fix errors"
on the front screen, or look inside "C:\Scandisk.log" afterwards.)
8. "START, Run, Defrag /p /details". Apparently, "/p" Defrags the
unmovables.

The purpose of steps 1-5 is only to prevent constant restarts of
Scandisk & Defrag, if you get them; but DEFINITELY turn off the Virus
Scanner. Scandisk should be done perhaps once a month, and certainly
after every serious crash. Do a Defrag after a sluggish boot or when
this says so:
http://www.pcmag.com/ 's CrackUp, by Gregory A. Wolking & Bob Flanders.
Also, take DiskAction, to determine what is constantly writing to the
HDD, which causes the restarts. Take BHOCop & StartupCop too.

"DiskAction" reports the last 12 processes that access any partition. It
discovered the MS Critical Update Notification Tool was accessing my
HDD every five minutes. It can be uninstalled in "Control Panel,
Add/Remove Programs". Then, occasionally, "START, Windows Update" on
your own.

"BHOCop" found a Browser Helper Object called Wavehelper Class, created
by "Wavetop", that was building a monstrosity of an error log called
"Logit.txt" in here. "START, Find, F/F, Logit.txt"-- see one?

Now, my hard drive is quieter than my mouse. (Of course, I now also have
384 MB RAM, up from an initial 64, eliminating Swap File activity.)


--
Thanks or Good Luck,
There may be humor in this post, and,
Naturally, you will not sue,
should things get worse after this,
PCR
pcrrcp@netzero.net
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