Thanks for all the replies, especially the one's shooting down my Dell and it's Celeron. As such, I have decided to swap Mobos using the Dell 1100 Micro Tower Case. Which brings me this question: Will an Asus or MSI Motherboard fit in a Dell 1100 Micro Tower Case? If not, what aftermarket Mobos will?
Thanks for all the replies, especially the one's shooting down my Dell and it's Celeron. As such, I have decided to swap Mobos using the Dell 1100 Micro Tower Case. Which brings me this question: Will an Asus or MSI Motherboard fit in a Dell 1100 Micro Tower Case? If not, what aftermarket Mobos will?
Thanks,
Sean
Yes
By using powertools, it's possible to fit a standard motherboard into a nonstandard case, a desk or even a ceiling if you accurately drill holes through 'em.
?????? Was that the answer, or was it meant to be funny. Sorry if I didn't get it. So you're saying I would need to custom make holes in the mobo to align w/ the holes in the case?
?????? Was that the answer, or was it meant to be funny. Sorry if I didn't get it.
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So you're saying I would need to custom make holes in the mobo to align w/ the holes in the case?
Yup, Dell cases and mobos are non-standard, the mounting holes on a standard ATX mobo won't match the mounting holes on a Dell case, unless you drill those holes yourself.
Yes, a microATX board will fit in the case, however:
1. The Dell cooling solution will have to be scrapped (obviously).
2. The usb header, audio, and power/pwr led/hdd led plugs are proprietary: you'll have to do some cuttling and splicing.
3. Check the pinout of the power plug for the Dell power supply. Earlier Dells used to have a proprietary power supply, although I believe Dell has long since done away with that. Still it never hurts to check. The Dell support website has an online service manual that will give you the pinouts of the plug
4. Don't plan anything huge.....the Dell power supply is only rated for 250 watts...
?????? Was that the answer, or was it meant to be funny. Sorry if I didn't get it.
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So you're saying I would need to custom make holes in the mobo to align w/ the holes in the case?
Yup, Dell cases and mobos are non-standard, the mounting holes on a standard ATX mobo won't match the mounting holes on a Dell case, unless you drill those holes yourself.
?????? Was that the answer, or was it meant to be funny. Sorry if I didn't get it.
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So you're saying I would need to custom make holes in the mobo to align w/ the holes in the case?
Yup, Dell cases and mobos are non-standard, the mounting holes on a standard ATX mobo won't match the mounting holes on a Dell case, unless you drill those holes yourself.
Since when? It is using a standard mATX mobo.
Forever, a standard ATX mobo won't fit a mATX case.
see for yourself. Just zoom in....It's all standard mATX pattern. ANY mATX board will fit in there.
For starters, I'll just quote myself and highlight the important bits :
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a standard ATX mobo won't fit a mATX case.
That link you provided is useless, I don't see any measurements overlayed on top of those highly pixelated images. You might as well linked a hand drawing made by a pre-school kid, 3/8th of an inch can make all the difference when trying to fit a screw into a hole.
You obviously can't navigate a webpage. Step 1: click on little image on the right-hand side of page of case with side off. Step 2: click on the now enlarged image of case with side off to zoom in. Step 3: compare screw locations of mobo to that of any matx board. Step 4: stop posting in threads if you don't know a damn thing about the topic at hand.
Just FYI for you sid, the OP never said anything about using an ATX board. That's your own delusion, not his. mATX is a standard too ya' know.
Might as well claim that I use my TV remote control to make phone calls and dry my cat in a microwave...
Again, that flash enhanced page still won't give ANY measurement relative to the EXACT location of the mounting holes. Your guess may be as good as mine but I stand my ground, the mounting holes won't match, we're talking about a frickin' proprietary Dell case here !
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stop posting in threads if you don't know a damn thing about the topic at hand.
I'll get right on that after I figure out why I did'nt buy a Dell instead of building my own 'rig, the overclock and watercooling system happened by accident !
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Just FYI for you sid, the OP never said anything about using an ATX board. That's your own delusion, not his. mATX is a standard too ya' know.
And you're deluding yourself into believing that Dell would follow such things as industry standards, they truly want their "dear valued customers" to upgrade on their own using 3rd party parts !
i cant believe what I'm seeing here,
I'm going to have to agree with Sid 100%. I think everyone has missed the entire statement hes made.
"Again, that flash enhanced page still won't give ANY measurement relative to the EXACT location of the mounting holes." -Sid
your guessing while that motherboard is 1/8Th an inch against the bottom of the case that you can swap out for another board and hope it to fit? are you serious?
your already talking about looking up wiring diagrams for the non standard power plugs and cutting and splicing for basic wiring like power buttons and LEDs. do you really think someone with half a brain who is trying to do this mod will actually succeed? hes trying to save him the embarrassment of purchasing a mATX board when he can purchase a cheap midtower and a full ATX.
PSU in that dell is the best. so after he mods the power plug and fits everything in there (if it fits.. IF) we can wait for it to burn the mobo out.. then he can order another and start again i don't remember dell winning any OCing awards for top PSUs with stable rails..
are you next going to say that every thing on a full ATX will be the same as mATX? that your not skimping out on features to provide a smaller board?
oh and lets talk about cases since were talking about small.. have you looked in that dell case? its crammed full of crap. i bet it has lovely air flow. in fact I cant wait for those nice hot summers in Hawaii to pick up and take care of the heat problem I'm sure that will be in the mail for him. that case is sheet metal with plastic over the top. have fun feeding it dremel wheels too.
start out right, don't do this fly by night crap. telling him it wouldn't fit is the strongest way we can say "are you trying to waste money"?
I cant believe this has to be my 2ND post since moving to this forum.
too the guy who asked originally about putting a board in that dell case. look, i can see why you don't want to buy a new one.. shipping must be murder. that's the best case that can be made against what you want to do. after you realize this wont work out, your going to have to ship some more stuff at expensive costs. do it right the first time and save your self a real head ache.
a wager? *sigh* why don't you help this guy rather than go in patterns of circular logic. fits or doesn't.. hes not gonna win regardless. dell stacked this deck when he bought it. lets try and find him some cheap shipping instead.
your guessing while that motherboard is 1/8Th an inch against the bottom of the case that you can swap out for another board and hope it to fit? are you serious?
Yes, because I know it is a standard micro ATX board. I've already found conformation of this for the Dimension 2400, and I know it's true on the Dimension 4500 that I own. This b110 is an evolution of the dimension 2400/3000 case, and since the b110 is still using the same motherboard that came in last year's dimension 3000 (and I know this because I purchased my parents a 3000 last christmas), I'm positive that this is a standard size mATX board, and that any standard mATX board will fit in the case without problems. Wiring of course is a different story, which is clearly stated in my first post to the OP. It is up to him to decide if he can tackle those obstacles set before him, not you. The question was only "will it fit", and the answer is yes, it will.
yea well you can technically chew glass, yet if someone asked me, it would be something to advise against. chewing dells is just as unhealthy.
i dont understand why your pushing him to install it in a doomed setup to begin with. regardless of the arguments presented here, hes not going to gain anything by swapping that board out is he? no.
well actually hes going to gain one hell of a headache.
i can see why you advise your parrents to get a dell.. thats brilliant considering with a good extended warranty they will always have a lacky on hand to swap out bad parts ( a friend of mine did that work.. its contract, 32$ a job and you'd be supprised the amoun
i don't remember dell winning any OCing awards for top PSUs with stable rails..