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More info?)
An update:
So far, so good. I've installed MDAC 2.5 sp3. At this point, all systems
are go (or seem to be).
Thank goodness. But it's still a bit early in the game, and time will
tell.
Bill in Co. wrote:
> Rick Chauvin wrote:
>> "PCR" <pcrrcp@netzero.net> wrote in message
>> news:uTMYuPBLFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl
>>> When I had Component Checker installed & clicked through it's many
>>> windows, I thought for sure MDAC was TREBLE the monster even McAfee is.
>>> It was impressive, but HUGE as hell, & I opted to stay with my lowly
>>
>> Huge? .. the install file is only 4mb
>
> That's right. Well, unless you use MDAC 2.5 (the last one with Jet,
etc),
> in which case it is about 8 MB. Big deal.
>
>> It doesn't add files over v2.1 as I said - it only replaces them with
newer
>> ones.
>
> Right.
>
>>> MDAC 2.1 SP2 (2.1.2.4202.3) GA. So, better go do the 2-hour backup.
>>> Don't know why it takes that long, though.
>
> I think it took almost two hours to partition copy 20 GB, but I don't
> remember now. My four partitions are each 20 GB, and I'm happy with this
> simple arrangement.
>
>>> Please keep us informed of any idiosyncrasies after doing it. I see
>>> Chauvin & mae are well satisfied. But how many of Chauvin's URL's have
>>> to be clicked for this?
>>
>> How many links - what do you mean?
>> I was kind to give 1 link for the kb page, 1 link for the install, and 1
link
>> for each update. I could of gave none and saved time but was in the
sharing
>> and making it easier for others mode today
..I thought that's what
it
>> was all about here in this forum
>>
>> Rick
>
> Thanks. Yea, I went to the MS download site, and looked at what they had
> to offer in the MDAC department, and there are several versions out there.
> I think I'm just gonna do MDAC 2.5 sp3 (as I mentioned before), at this
> point.
>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Thanks or Good Luck,
>>> There may be humor in this post, and,
>>> Naturally, you will not sue,
>>> should things get worse after this,
>>> PCR
>>> pcrrcp@netzero.net
>>> "Bill in Co." <someone@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eDe$nVALFHA.3832@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> So far it all sounds good, but I think I'll stick with MDAC 2.5, the
last
>>>> one that included Jet and all the other stuff, and see how that goes.
>>>>
>>>> I have BootItNG, and if push comes to shove, I will backup the
partition
>>>> before installing MDAC, but my hunch is it's pretty safe to do the MDAC
>>>> upgrade, so I probably won't even bother. For one thing, I would
need
>>>> to clear out a partition. For another, I think it takes almost 2
hours
>>>> to do that partition copy, in my case.
>>>>
>>>> If the MDAC upgrade were risky, I'd do it, though. But - I'm not
>>>> hearing that, or reading that.
>>>>
>>>> Rick Chauvin wrote:
>>>>> "Bill in Co." <someone@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e87qtc%23KFHA.3296@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl
>>>>>> I was thinking of doing MDAC 2.5x as you said, mae, for two reasons.
>>>>>> One, it's the last version that includes that Jet stuff and some
other
>>>>>> goodies. Two, it's less of an upgrade than jumping all the way up to
>>>>>> 2.7x
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You know what is so ironic? If you install any version ABOVE MDAC
>>>>>> 2.5x, you have a rollback option, in case anything doesn't work
right;
>>>>>> but any version below MDAC 2.6, and you don't have the rollback
>>>>>> option. Yet only the versions below 2.6 include all that other stuff!
>>>>>> And I'd guess that's part of the reason why there is no rollback
there
>>>>>> - there would be a lot more to undue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still, if I install this, and it breaks some existing apps, or screws
>>>>>> up my system, I'm gonna be SOL. Now that will *really* piss me off
>>>>>> - if I have to reinstall everything all over again. UGH!! (cue
>>>>>> in PCR with his sermon on the complete computer system backups -
>>>>>> second thought, don't!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wonder if *anyone* has heard any horror stories, in this MDAC
upgrade
>>>>>> dept? Or has run into any problems?
>>>>>
>>>>> No horror stories,
>>>>> MDAC 2.8 is the latest and here's some details:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnmdac/html
>>>> /data_mdacinstall.asp
>>>>>
>>>>> ...the v2.8 downlolad
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6c050fe3-c795-4b7d-
>>>> b037-185d0506396c&DisplayLang=en
>>>>>
>>>>> & with an intermindate security update for that (does install on W9x)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=39472ee8-c14a-47b4-
>>>> bfcc-87988e062d91&displaylang=en
>>>>>
>>>>> & with its final program update for that:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=fe2a5b1c-ff30-40a0-
>>>> 8e70-c9f1f4dcd8c2&displaylang=en
>>>>>
>>>>> I tracked the entire install and all it does is simply overwrite the
>>>>> existing install files of it's very early original, and adjusts the
>>>>> registry accordingly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got tired of trying to figure out what MDAC went with what, and even
>>>>> the MDAC Component Checker would never run true, until installing 2.8
>>>>>
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;307255
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally I just installed the latest and it was an easy install, no
>>>>> problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> About your cue to PCR, if you mean by backup a "full Partition backup"
>>>>> then that is the ultimate backup. Many programs to do that and most
of
>>>>> the MVP's here like and support BootIt NG
>>>>>
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html
>>>>>
>>>>> I personally like and use TrueImage
>>>>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/
>>>>> ...although I rather use the older v6.0.350 or the older DriveImage
>>>>> v5.01 for Disk to Disk
>>>>>
>>>>> What I meant the other day by you could be indestructible or
impervious
>>>>> to whatever update or SP or Whatever you install or wreck on your
>>>>> computer, you can in 2 minutes completely restore the entire
partition,
>>>>> or all of them. Once you use it you will never go back and you will be
>>>>> truly the Master of your own computer protection and backup and never
>>>>> again be at its mercy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> mae wrote:
>>>>>>> I haven't had any problems.
>>>>>>> I had 2.1 updated but when they stopped support, I went to 2.5sp3,
and
>>>>>>> that had 3 updates. Now at 2.8 and had 1 update with that. Just
don't
>>>>>>> have all the things that would need 2.8. You might try 2.5sp3 first
to
>>>>>>> see how you do - there was little difference in files as compared to
>>>>>>> 2.1. Check to see if they still support it first - that I don't
know.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> mae
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Bill in Co." <someone@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:egnt$45KFHA.3184@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Has anyone run into any problems after upgrading their MDAC
version?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've got MDAC 2.1, but Sisoft Sandra Lite requires MDAC 2.5 (or
>>>>>>>> higher), and I just want to be sure that a MDAC upgrade is
basically
>>>>>>>> a "no brainer" (meaning, no problemo). From what I've been able
>>>>>>>> to read about it so far, it appears to be a pretty safe upgrade.
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