MS Patch KB891711 is BAD

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Today, I read an article on cnet where someone called MS tech support
and he says they said: "Got with a tech support guy fairly quickly
and he explained that the KB891711 patch was not required for WIN98,
even though the Windows Update service called it a critical update" .


So, I uninstalled the update, rebooted, and my problem disappeared.
Microsoft should be putting out a message to everyone about this
glitch.

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There already is a thread going on patch KB891711 - see "Downloading Win98
Updates" from yesterday.

Seems to be an important patch for Win98. See

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS05-002.mspx

But it apparently causes problems with some computers. My Win98se laptop
works fine with it, at least thus far. I'm following what the MVPs here say.
But I'm carefully following what's going on just in case someone issues a
patch for the patch or advises taking it out.

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"vmill63" <UseLinkToEmail@WindowsForumz.com> wrote in message
news:3_1086227_e2f493d9928f18525da431d96ca7626a@windowsforumz.com...
> Today, I read an article on cnet where someone called MS tech support
> and he says they said: "Got with a tech support guy fairly quickly
> and he explained that the KB891711 patch was not required for WIN98,
> even though the Windows Update service called it a critical update" .
>
>
> So, I uninstalled the update, rebooted, and my problem disappeared.
> Microsoft should be putting out a message to everyone about this
> glitch.
>
 
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AFAIK, the tech suport guy was wrong. This patch *is* a critical patch,
the vulnerability that it deals with *is* present in Windows 98. You can
do a number of things to mitigate the possibility of this particular
type of malicious code entering your system via HTML, but it is *still*
a Critical Update.

That KB891711 has proven disastrous for a significant number of users is
no reason for MS to decide that it "isn't needed". It's bad enough that
they call some patches "Critical" in fully supported platforms, but only
"Important" in Win9x platforms. It's time for them to come clean,
whatever the result is. The vulnerability addressed in KB891711 *does*
exist in Windows 9x, and if it's Critical anywhere, it's Critical
everywhere. If it can't be fixed decently in Windows 9x, then they
should just say so. Redefining the problem does not a solution make.

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http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"vmill63" <UseLinkToEmail@WindowsForumz.com> wrote in message
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> Today, I read an article on cnet where someone called MS tech support
> and he says they said: "Got with a tech support guy fairly quickly
> and he explained that the KB891711 patch was not required for WIN98,
> even though the Windows Update service called it a critical update" .
>
>
> So, I uninstalled the update, rebooted, and my problem disappeared.
> Microsoft should be putting out a message to everyone about this
> glitch.
>
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Well I am back in Arizona, Gary and back to work on Monday. <smile>

"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
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: AFAIK, the tech suport guy was wrong. This patch *is* a critical patch,
: the vulnerability that it deals with *is* present in Windows 98. You can
: do a number of things to mitigate the possibility of this particular
: type of malicious code entering your system via HTML, but it is *still*
: a Critical Update.
:
: That KB891711 has proven disastrous for a significant number of users is
: no reason for MS to decide that it "isn't needed". It's bad enough that
: they call some patches "Critical" in fully supported platforms, but only
: "Important" in Win9x platforms. It's time for them to come clean,
: whatever the result is. The vulnerability addressed in KB891711 *does*
: exist in Windows 9x, and if it's Critical anywhere, it's Critical
: everywhere. If it can't be fixed decently in Windows 9x, then they
: should just say so. Redefining the problem does not a solution make.
:
: --
: Gary S. Terhune
: MS MVP Shell/User
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
:
: "vmill63" <UseLinkToEmail@WindowsForumz.com> wrote in message
: news:3_1086227_e2f493d9928f18525da431d96ca7626a@windowsforumz.com...
: > Today, I read an article on cnet where someone called MS tech support
: > and he says they said: "Got with a tech support guy fairly quickly
: > and he explained that the KB891711 patch was not required for WIN98,
: > even though the Windows Update service called it a critical update" .
: >
: >
: > So, I uninstalled the update, rebooted, and my problem disappeared.
: > Microsoft should be putting out a message to everyone about this
: > glitch.
: >
: > --
: > Posted using the http://www.windowsforumz.com interface, at author's
: request
: > Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards
: > Topic URL:
:
http://www.windowsforumz.com/General-Discussion-MS-Patch-KB891711-BAD-ftopict346172.html
: > Visit Topic URL to contact author (reg. req'd). Report abuse:
: http://www.windowsforumz.com/eform.php?p=1086227
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