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March 25, 2005 10:05:38 PM

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I've had some really good advice from you guys before, so I have another
question.

Background: I don't really know what I want to do.
I have W98SE, and I'm happy with it - except that at times it seems
circumstances (planned obsolecense?) dictate that I must have XP.
Example: a group I work with uses Publisher 2003 - under a group lisense (we
all work for the same organization) I could get a copy. BUT Pub 2003 requires
XP. So, I ended up buying Publisher 2002 - at half the cost of a Windows XP
upgrade. There's another example of a s/w program I was going to use but it
also required XP. AND, I can't use the latest version of MusicMatch JukeBox.
Since I like 98SE too much, I am (was?) toying with installing a dual boot
system.
However, on investigating that, I'm not sure I want to tackle that.
Next possibility: Buy Windows XP upgrade. (my computer will handle it).
However, I'm the kind of guy who likes to clean my machine about once a year
(using "Format C" and then re-installing my programs).

Question: IF I were to buy and install Windows XP upgrade, and then IF I
decided to clean the system out in a year or so, and fresh-install the OS,
could this be done DIRECTLY from the Windows XP upgrade disk, OR must I then
first install 98SE again, and follow it up by installing the upgrade?

Thanks (again), folks, for your help!

Ivan - -

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.

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Anonymous
March 25, 2005 10:05:39 PM

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Upgrades can be "clean installed" by simply showing Setup the
installation media for the qualifying OS. so long as you have a standard
Windows 98 or 98SE or ME installation CD. You just boot to the XP Setup
and follow instructions.

If you only have a computer vendor's "Restore" disk, or similar, then
you have to first install the original OS and then upgrade in place.

However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, <s>.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Ivan" <ivantheterrible@screwski-youski.ru> wrote in message
news:gt8941t0gqjai13chf28i3t93hq3pq79cm@4ax.com...
> I've had some really good advice from you guys before, so I have
another
> question.
>
> Background: I don't really know what I want to do.
> I have W98SE, and I'm happy with it - except that at times it seems
> circumstances (planned obsolecense?) dictate that I must have XP.
> Example: a group I work with uses Publisher 2003 - under a group
lisense (we
> all work for the same organization) I could get a copy. BUT Pub 2003
requires
> XP. So, I ended up buying Publisher 2002 - at half the cost of a
Windows XP
> upgrade. There's another example of a s/w program I was going to use
but it
> also required XP. AND, I can't use the latest version of MusicMatch
JukeBox.
> Since I like 98SE too much, I am (was?) toying with installing a dual
boot
> system.
> However, on investigating that, I'm not sure I want to tackle that.
> Next possibility: Buy Windows XP upgrade. (my computer will handle
it).
> However, I'm the kind of guy who likes to clean my machine about once
a year
> (using "Format C" and then re-installing my programs).
>
> Question: IF I were to buy and install Windows XP upgrade, and then
IF I
> decided to clean the system out in a year or so, and fresh-install
the OS,
> could this be done DIRECTLY from the Windows XP upgrade disk, OR must
I then
> first install 98SE again, and follow it up by installing the upgrade?
>
> Thanks (again), folks, for your help!
>
> Ivan - -
>
> A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> with an other monkey's monkey.
March 25, 2005 10:05:40 PM

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"Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Upgrades can be "clean installed" by simply showing Setup the
> installation media for the qualifying OS. so long as you have a standard
> Windows 98 or 98SE or ME installation CD. You just boot to the XP Setup
> and follow instructions.
>
> If you only have a computer vendor's "Restore" disk, or similar, then
> you have to first install the original OS and then upgrade in place.
>
> However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, <s>.
>


good advice...
just be sure to install XP on a sperate partition from win98
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March 25, 2005 10:38:04 PM

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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:24:55 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org>
wrote:

>Upgrades can be "clean installed" by simply showing Setup the
>installation media for the qualifying OS. so long as you have a standard
>Windows 98 or 98SE or ME installation CD. You just boot to the XP Setup
>and follow instructions.
>
>If you only have a computer vendor's "Restore" disk, or similar, then
>you have to first install the original OS and then upgrade in place.

Thanks for your reply, Gary! I appreciate your sharing your expertise.
>
>However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, <s>.

In a way, I would like to do exactly that - perhaps after another courage pill
(don't read anything into this - I don't do drugs, and drink sparingly).

Guess I'll just have to read all the stuff you (and others) recommended in an
earlier string, get all my facts together, and DO IT . . . .

Thanks again, Gary!





Ivan - -

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.
March 28, 2005 2:25:23 AM

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> In a way, I would like to do exactly that - perhaps after another courage
pill
> (don't read anything into this - I don't do drugs, and drink sparingly).

i had a cat, and some fool just let it out of my bag, anyone see who
it was?
Anonymous
March 28, 2005 8:06:43 PM

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Be aware that if you reinstall XP from scratch, you will have to
reactivate it.

As Gary said, dual boot is the way to go. It isn't that difficult. I
have done
it like this:

Start with clean disk, no prtitions.
Boot using Win 98 startup disk
Partition your Win 98 space, nothing else.
Install Win 98 as usual
Make sure the CDROM is configured to boot bootable CDs
Reboot PC, insert Win XP CD in the drive and boot from there.
Install Win XP, partition another space on the drive for it. (See note
below)
Configure XP to connec to Internet. Test connection
Once connection is up and you are online, activate Win XP.

Note:
In the procedure above I created two partitions, one for Win 98SE
and the other for Win XP, but you might want one or two more for
data storage. If you do, then you have to decide whether you want
a specific area for Win 98 stuff and another for Win XP stuff or
whether one data storage partition is ok for both.

If you choose one for both, make sure that the partition (after being
created) is formatted as FAT32. Both Win XP and 98 can read and
write FAT 32 partitions, but only Win XP can read/write NTFS
partitions. Why create two? Well if you want your Win XP to stay
seperate and private from the Win 98, then create a partiion for
Win XP data stuff and format it using NTFS. Win 98 will never
see it. Why have one shared area? It is practical and both OSes
can share data (like Word docs, Excel xlses, etc.). Your PC,
your needs, your choice <g>

Good luck!
Saga


"Ivan" <ivantheterrible@screwski-youski.ru> wrote in message
news:gt8941t0gqjai13chf28i3t93hq3pq79cm@4ax.com...
> I've had some really good advice from you guys before, so I have
> another
> question.
>
> Background: I don't really know what I want to do.
> I have W98SE, and I'm happy with it - except that at times it seems
> circumstances (planned obsolecense?) dictate that I must have XP.
> Example: a group I work with uses Publisher 2003 - under a group
> lisense (we
> all work for the same organization) I could get a copy. BUT Pub 2003
> requires
> XP. So, I ended up buying Publisher 2002 - at half the cost of a
> Windows XP
> upgrade. There's another example of a s/w program I was going to use
> but it
> also required XP. AND, I can't use the latest version of MusicMatch
> JukeBox.
> Since I like 98SE too much, I am (was?) toying with installing a dual
> boot
> system.
> However, on investigating that, I'm not sure I want to tackle that.
> Next possibility: Buy Windows XP upgrade. (my computer will handle
> it).
> However, I'm the kind of guy who likes to clean my machine about once
> a year
> (using "Format C" and then re-installing my programs).
>
> Question: IF I were to buy and install Windows XP upgrade, and then
> IF I
> decided to clean the system out in a year or so, and fresh-install
> the OS,
> could this be done DIRECTLY from the Windows XP upgrade disk, OR must
> I then
> first install 98SE again, and follow it up by installing the upgrade?
>
> Thanks (again), folks, for your help!
>
> Ivan - -
>
> A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> with an other monkey's monkey.
March 29, 2005 2:41:15 AM

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On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:24:55 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org>
wrote:

>However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, <s>.

Ok - I've decided to follow your advice, and now I am this far:

I loaded BootIt NG, and ran it. I now have HD 0: Drive "C" - 5 GB; Drive "E"
the rest with nothing on it.
My HD1 (still Drive "D") is not partitioned.

Now, when I start my computer, I get a panel "Boot Menu"
The only entry on it is "Windows 98SE"
There are three buttons: "BOOT" "MTCE" and "DIRECT BOOT"

When I go on the "Direct Boot" menu, and click on "Drive E" and then click on
"Boot", it tells me:
"This partition does not contain an operating system.
If you are about to install an new OS, insert the installation diskette into
Drive "A".
Press any key to run the BIOS bootstrap loader"

I'm about to go out (tomorrow?) and buy the Windows XP upgrade CD.
However, I don't think it will have an "installation diskette" included in the
package.

I do, however, have a W98 start-up diskette.
Should I try to install W98SE on Drive "E", and then attempt to upgrade it to
XP?

One other question (not the most important) is: Once I have dual boot
installed, will I always have to select one of the two systems manually, or can
the menu be set to select one of them (say after 10 - or maybe 5 - seconds of
not selecting the other one)?

Also, will I need BootIt NG as a slection menu, or are there more simple,
perhaps less costly ways to do this? Then again, if there are good reasons to
keep BootIt NG, it won't break me to buy it.

Thanks, folks, for the answers to these questions (and for the earlier
encouragement).
No doubt, I'll have more questions before this is over.


Ivan - -

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.
March 29, 2005 10:47:30 PM

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On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 13:20:08 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org>
wrote:

>Not sure what you mean when you cop to being "a bit naughty". My only
>concern is that John take full account of all the parameters before
>diving into repartitioning.
>
I may already have done that, Gary. However, I believe that what I have done
can be undone, if necessary.
I also have a (as yet onopened) CD of Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade with SP2.
I understand that once I open it, I have bought it for sure.

So, I guess I'm as ready as I'll ever be to take the plunge . . . . . (shiver
shiver).


John <><

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.
(A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
Anonymous
March 30, 2005 11:21:24 AM

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OK. I *think* I have your situation clear in my mind (sorry for the
delay, yesterday just kept getting worser and worser.) Some questions
that I need the answers to before advising on procedure.

You have used BING to shrink your current Windows 98 system partition
(first partition on HD0) to 5 GB. How much free space does that leave on
that partition? Either check Properties on C:\ from within Win98, or use
Properties in BING to see how much is Free. Note, I'm talking only about
that first partition on HD0 and how much is Used vs how much is Free.

You have a second partition on HD0. Is it a Primary Partition? (Not an
Extended partition with a Volume inside it?) How large is it?

Come to think of it, how large are these hard drives?

You'll have noticed that I don't use drive letters to identify
partitions and volumes. They don't apply at this level, and, depending
on how you set this up, the letters assigned to each volume may change
according to which OS you boot to in the future.

To further clarify, you wish to install WinXP so that each OS is hidden
from the other? Have you purchased BING and do you intend to use it as
the Boot Manager? (The other option is to let Windows XP install a boot
manager, which it will install to your Win98 OS partition, and use that
instead. If so, WinXP will be able to see the Win98 OS partition, but
not necessarily the other way around.)

Do you intend to use WinXP with the NTFS file system, or with FAT32?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"John" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
news:l3hh41pl5mkhvkhm0h9v8aikkjdkehv6m0@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 16:24:55 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
<grystnews@mvps.org>
> wrote:
>
> >However, I'd still recommend a dual-boot scenario for you, <s>.
>
> Ok - I've decided to follow your advice, and now I am this far:
>
> I loaded BootIt NG, and ran it. I now have HD 0: Drive "C" - 5 GB;
Drive "E"
> the rest with nothing on it.
> My HD1 (still Drive "D") is not partitioned.
>
> Now, when I start my computer, I get a panel "Boot Menu"
> The only entry on it is "Windows 98SE"
> There are three buttons: "BOOT" "MTCE" and "DIRECT BOOT"
>
> When I go on the "Direct Boot" menu, and click on "Drive E" and then
click on
> "Boot", it tells me:
> "This partition does not contain an operating system.
> If you are about to install an new OS, insert the installation
diskette into
> Drive "A".
> Press any key to run the BIOS bootstrap loader"
>
> I'm about to go out (tomorrow?) and buy the Windows XP upgrade CD.
> However, I don't think it will have an "installation diskette"
included in the
> package.
>
> I do, however, have a W98 start-up diskette.
> Should I try to install W98SE on Drive "E", and then attempt to
upgrade it to
> XP?
>
> One other question (not the most important) is: Once I have dual boot
> installed, will I always have to select one of the two systems
manually, or can
> the menu be set to select one of them (say after 10 - or maybe 5 -
seconds of
> not selecting the other one)?
>
> Also, will I need BootIt NG as a slection menu, or are there more
simple,
> perhaps less costly ways to do this? Then again, if there are good
reasons to
> keep BootIt NG, it won't break me to buy it.
>
> Thanks, folks, for the answers to these questions (and for the
earlier
> encouragement).
> No doubt, I'll have more questions before this is over.
>
>
> Ivan - -
>
> A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> with an other monkey's monkey.
March 30, 2005 7:51:22 PM

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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 07:21:24 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org>
wrote:

>OK. I *think* I have your situation clear in my mind (sorry for the
>delay, yesterday just kept getting worser and worser.) Some questions
>that I need the answers to before advising on procedure.
>
>You have used BING to shrink your current Windows 98 system partition
>(first partition on HD0) to 5 GB.

That is correct

>How much free space does that leave on
>that partition? Either check Properties on C:\ from within Win98,
>or use Properties in BING to see how much is Free. Note, I'm talking only about
>that first partition on HD0 and how much is Used vs how much is Free.

2.26 GB used, 2.80 free. It contains W98SE, and a few programs which
automatically installed there (MSIE, my PDA sw, etc.)

Most programs and other stuff I installed are on HD 1, which is not partitioned.

>
>You have a second partition on HD0. Is it a Primary Partition? (Not an
>Extended partition with a Volume inside it?)

Yes (AFAIK)

> How large is it?

13.5 GB
I hope to install Windows XP on it, and also the few programs that I can use
with XP only
>
>Come to think of it, how large are these hard drives?

HD 0 - 20 GB; HD1 - 40 GB
>
>You'll have noticed that I don't use drive letters to identify
>partitions and volumes. They don't apply at this level, and, depending
>on how you set this up, the letters assigned to each volume may change
>according to which OS you boot to in the future.
>
>To further clarify, you wish to install WinXP so that each OS is hidden
>from the other?

I'm not sure how to answer that, but as little as I understand it, I would say
"yes":

>Have you purchased BING and do you intend to use it as
>the Boot Manager?

Not yet (I still have 27 days trial left). However, I think it would be good to
purchase it.

(incidenatlly, I have W 98XP upgrade (not yet unpacked)
Will it do the job for me?

> (The other option is to let Windows XP install a boot
>manager, which it will install to your Win98 OS partition, and use that
>instead. If so, WinXP will be able to see the Win98 OS partition, but
>not necessarily the other way around.)
>
>Do you intend to use WinXP with the NTFS file system, or with FAT32?

I'm not sure how to answe that - don't know what the difference is.

Thanks, Gary!

John <><

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.
(A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
Anonymous
March 30, 2005 7:51:23 PM

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"John" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 07:21:24 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
<grystnews@mvps.org>
> wrote:
>
> >OK. I *think* I have your situation clear in my mind (sorry for the
> >delay, yesterday just kept getting worser and worser.) Some questions
> >that I need the answers to before advising on procedure.
> >
> >You have used BING to shrink your current Windows 98 system partition
> >(first partition on HD0) to 5 GB.
>
> That is correct
>
> >How much free space does that leave on
> >that partition? Either check Properties on C:\ from within Win98,
> >or use Properties in BING to see how much is Free. Note, I'm talking
only about
> >that first partition on HD0 and how much is Used vs how much is Free.
>
> 2.26 GB used, 2.80 free. It contains W98SE, and a few programs which
> automatically installed there (MSIE, my PDA sw, etc.)

That's a decently healthy structure. I'll assume that you've left the
swap file and TEMP and Temporary Internet files in their default
locations, in which case you need that kind of free space to maintain
performance and avoid errors.

> Most programs and other stuff I installed are on HD 1, which is not
partitioned.

OK, just a small correction in your understanding--if a disk is to be
used, it *must* be partitioned. It may only have one partition that
occupies the entire disk, but it is still "partitioned". May sound like
I'm splitting hairs, but clear understanding of the structures involved
is important if you want to avoid potentially serious misunderstandings.

> >
> >You have a second partition on HD0. Is it a Primary Partition? (Not
an
> >Extended partition with a Volume inside it?)
>
> Yes (AFAIK)
>
> > How large is it?
>
> 13.5 GB
> I hope to install Windows XP on it, and also the few programs that I
can use
> with XP only

OK, that's different. You previously gave 3.5 GB as the size for that
partition, and that won't work. 13.5 GB is just fine for your purpose.

> >Come to think of it, how large are these hard drives?
>
> HD 0 - 20 GB; HD1 - 40 GB
> >
> >You'll have noticed that I don't use drive letters to identify
> >partitions and volumes. They don't apply at this level, and,
depending
> >on how you set this up, the letters assigned to each volume may
change
> >according to which OS you boot to in the future.
> >
> >To further clarify, you wish to install WinXP so that each OS is
hidden
> >from the other?
>
> I'm not sure how to answer that, but as little as I understand it, I
would say
> "yes":
>
> >Have you purchased BING and do you intend to use it as
> >the Boot Manager?
>
> Not yet (I still have 27 days trial left). However, I think it would
be good to
> purchase it.

BING is definitely nice to have, and while I've bought it and have
occasionally installed it, I find myself more often just cancelling the
installation and using the tools to work with things--IOW, I don't do
any true multi-booting, I just have some hidden partitions that I
sometimes manually activte for various reasons.

> (incidenatlly, I have W 98XP upgrade (not yet unpacked)
> Will it do the job for me?

Yes, but unless you are going to let XP Setup see the Win98 partition
(which will cause it to install its own boot manager to the Win98
partition, making it more complicated to later uninstall or "disappear"
the WinXP side) you need to have a copy of your original Win98
installation files on hand to prove upgrade eligibility. XP Setup will
ask for this proof, one way or another.

> > (The other option is to let Windows XP install a boot
> >manager, which it will install to your Win98 OS partition, and use
that
> >instead. If so, WinXP will be able to see the Win98 OS partition, but
> >not necessarily the other way around.)
> >
> >Do you intend to use WinXP with the NTFS file system, or with FAT32?
>
> I'm not sure how to answer that - don't know what the difference is.

The NTFS file system is safer and more secure. It's harder to break into
if you employ decent user management, and it's more stable, less likely
to get fouled up. Which brings me to a certain crusade item: When
setting up Windows XP, you'll be initially set up as the "Owner", a user
that has Administrative rights. You need these rights to do many things,
including install applications. But if you normally run XP as an
administrator, you are more vulnerable to malware, should it actually
make it onto your system without being detected and/or blocked. Best
practices is to set yourself up a separate, limited rights user profile
to use for everyday, only logging on as Owner when you need
administrative rights.

FAT32 has the advantage of being visible to Win9x OS systems, and is
easier to repair *if* something goes wrong at file system level. To be
honest, I don't know too many people who try to manually repair FAT32
file systems at the "diskedit" level, and any time I need to snag data
off an NTFS partition that has gone bad, I haven't found it too
difficult to do, using another disk with XP installed.

So, the way you want to do this is to boot to BING, go into Partition
Work, click on the Win98 partition and then click on Properties at lower
right. Then click "Hide". This will make the partition unrecognizable to
Windows XP (it will still see it but won't be able to read it, and will
therefore not assign it a drive letter.) Then insert the Windows XP and
restart. At one point in Setup you are shown the available partitions
and asked which you want to install to, and how to format it. If you've
already formatted the second partition on HD0 as FAT32, Setup will see
that, but you'll still have the opportunity to format again, using
whichever file system you wish. If you told BING to create an NTFS/HPFS
partition, WinXP Setup will recognize it as an "Unknown", just like it
will see the first partition (Hidden FAT32 for Win98) as "Unknown". It's
good that your partitions are different sizes. Makes it easy to know for
sure which partition you're looking at.

Remember, you need to have a Win98 or other qualifying OS installation
CD to show Setup in order to complete an installation of XP from the
Upgrade CD. Otherwise, you'll have to leave the Win98 partition
UnHidden. (If you have to do it that way, there are ways to later
segregate the OS partitions, but it can be tricky.)

The fact that you have applications installed to HD1/Partition1 makes
things a bit stranger. Personally, I'd shrink that partition, create
another FAT32 partition to use in common between the two OSes. Store all
of your personal data there.

After XP is installed, you'll want to go back into Partition Work and
UnHide the Win98 partition. Then use the Boot Manager to determine which
partitions are visible to each booting scheme. Example: Boot scheme 1
would boot to the Win98 OS partition on HD0, and include all
partition(s) on HD1. The WinXP boot scheme might only show that second
partition on HD0 and Hide all the rest, or it might also show a new
second partition on HD1 that you are now using for shared data. I
strongly recommend against allowing the XP system to see either the
Win98 OS partition or the Applications partition on HD1. Set up this
way, both methods will show it's own Windows partition as C:\. On the
other hand, if you use Windows XP's boot manager, WinXP will be able to
see the Win98 partition *and* it will be C:\, while the XP partition
itself will be assigned the letter D:\.

Any more questions, <s>?

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
March 30, 2005 11:30:58 PM

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On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:15:35 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune" <grystnews@mvps.org>
wrote:

<<<<<Main body deleted.>>>>>


>Any more questions, <s>?

Thanks, Gary! I will read your advice with care, print some of it, and then try
to follow it.

It will probably take me a day or two (between other things)

Week-ends are usually busy (computer-wise). I look after a small web site for
the church I belong to (www.myjourney.ca), and there's stuff to be done later in
the week also.
Anyway, you take tomorrow off, and celebrate. I understand from other postings
congratulations are in order.
Many happy returns! (thank goodness you're only 51 - now you can explain things
to old gaffers. I've got about 20 years on you - should probably be sharpening
my quill instead of worrying about dual-booting.

I'll be back . . . .


John <><

A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
with an other monkey's monkey.
(A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
Anonymous
March 30, 2005 11:30:59 PM

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Good Luck, and have fun!

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"John" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 15:15:35 -0800, "Gary S. Terhune"
<grystnews@mvps.org>
> wrote:
>
> <<<<<Main body deleted.>>>>>
>
>
> >Any more questions, <s>?
>
> Thanks, Gary! I will read your advice with care, print some of it,
and then try
> to follow it.
>
> It will probably take me a day or two (between other things)
>
> Week-ends are usually busy (computer-wise). I look after a small web
site for
> the church I belong to (www.myjourney.ca), and there's stuff to be
done later in
> the week also.
> Anyway, you take tomorrow off, and celebrate. I understand from other
postings
> congratulations are in order.
> Many happy returns! (thank goodness you're only 51 - now you can
explain things
> to old gaffers. I've got about 20 years on you - should probably be
sharpening
> my quill instead of worrying about dual-booting.
>
> I'll be back . . . .
>
>
> John <><
>
> A wise monkey is a monkey who doesn't monkey
> with an other monkey's monkey.
> (A very free paraphrase of Exodus 20:14).
!