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April 7, 2005 1:41:02 AM

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Good day to you. Anyway to get back those files & documents that had been
empty from recycle bin? Kindly advice. Thanks.

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Anonymous
April 7, 2005 7:01:45 AM

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On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 21:41:02 -0700, "james"
<james@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Good day to you. Anyway to get back those files & documents that had been
>empty from recycle bin? Kindly advice. Thanks.

James,

Get Restoration. It's a small free utility that will restore deleted
files from the HD and/or the Recycle Bin.

Use another machine for this if possible so you don't overwrite the
deleted files. Put the small program on a floppy and run it from the
floppy. Read the text file.
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
April 7, 2005 7:48:07 AM

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In news:54m9519q8m7sqg28u8grrvtpimacnme3ga@4ax.com,
Bill Watt <nobwatt@ptd.net> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> James,
>
> Get Restoration. It's a small free utility that will restore deleted
> files from the HD and/or the Recycle Bin.
>
> Use another machine for this if possible so you don't overwrite the
> deleted files. Put the small program on a floppy and run it from the
> floppy. Read the text file.
> http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/


What if, for instance, downloading and installing this application now,
after the fact, overwrites sectors of the drive that contained deleted
files? If I'm mistaken please point that out but doesn't Windows not
actually delete files but rather give them no extension or an extension all
their own and this extension means that they can/will be writen over should
that sector be the nearest one? I stand by Gary on this one, turn off the PC
and install nothing if the data is important unless, of course, there's
something I'm missing which I may very well be doing.

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.
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Anonymous
April 8, 2005 12:17:08 AM

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On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 03:48:07 -0400, "Galen" <galennews@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In news:54m9519q8m7sqg28u8grrvtpimacnme3ga@4ax.com,
>Bill Watt <nobwatt@ptd.net> had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
>> James,
>>
>> Get Restoration. It's a small free utility that will restore deleted
>> files from the HD and/or the Recycle Bin.
>>
>> Use another machine for this if possible so you don't overwrite the
>> deleted files. Put the small program on a floppy and run it from the
>> floppy. Read the text file.
>> http://www.snapfiles.com/get/restoration.html
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bill Watt
>> Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
>
>
>What if, for instance, downloading and installing this application now,
>after the fact, overwrites sectors of the drive that contained deleted
>files? If I'm mistaken please point that out but doesn't Windows not
>actually delete files but rather give them no extension or an extension all
>their own and this extension means that they can/will be writen over should
>that sector be the nearest one? I stand by Gary on this one, turn off the PC
>and install nothing if the data is important unless, of course, there's
>something I'm missing which I may very well be doing.
>
>Galen

I suggested using another machine if possible so the files are not
overwritten and put the program on a floppy and run it. The program
has to be run on the machine with the deleted files one way or
another and the best way is from a floppy. This particular program
does not get installed into windows which could overwrite files.

I believe the best way is to leave the machine on but do nothing
with it so it does not have to be rebooted. Then use another machine
for the download if one is available. Then run the program from a
floppy.

Deleted files usually have the first letter changed to a special
character and can be overwritten, the ones deleted to the Recycle
Bin are given numbers but retain the extension and file size, so
files with the same name can exist in the same (Recycled) folder. If
the file size and extension are known a particular file/s in the Bin
can be recovered using Dos commands if Windows won't start.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
April 8, 2005 3:11:25 AM

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In news:qkeb51hobph1bl3485jk3kjmdovvknackv@4ax.com,
Bill Watt <nobwatt@ptd.net> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Deleted files usually have the first letter changed to a special
> character and can be overwritten, the ones deleted to the Recycle
> Bin are given numbers but retain the extension and file size, so
> files with the same name can exist in the same (Recycled) folder. If
> the file size and extension are known a particular file/s in the Bin
> can be recovered using Dos commands if Windows won't start.

I snipped out the other stuff. That'd be why I love the newsgroups, I learn
a great deal in here. I'd never known that you could recover them from DOS
like that. I've a bit of a soft spot for odd tweaks and unusual OS features
that are often overlooked. I'm not entirely sure how I'll go about playing
with that one but I'm going to give it a shot on a 98 box probably tomorrow
just because, well, I can.

Thanks.

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.
Anonymous
April 8, 2005 4:49:00 AM

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On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:11:25 -0400, "Galen" <galennews@gmail.com>
wrote:

>In news:qkeb51hobph1bl3485jk3kjmdovvknackv@4ax.com,
>Bill Watt <nobwatt@ptd.net> had this to say:
>
> My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
>
>> Deleted files usually have the first letter changed to a special
>> character and can be overwritten, the ones deleted to the Recycle
>> Bin are given numbers but retain the extension and file size, so
>> files with the same name can exist in the same (Recycled) folder. If
>> the file size and extension are known a particular file/s in the Bin
>> can be recovered using Dos commands if Windows won't start.
>
>I snipped out the other stuff. That'd be why I love the newsgroups, I learn
>a great deal in here. I'd never known that you could recover them from DOS
>like that. I've a bit of a soft spot for odd tweaks and unusual OS features
>that are often overlooked. I'm not entirely sure how I'll go about playing
>with that one but I'm going to give it a shot on a 98 box probably tomorrow
>just because, well, I can.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Galen

Galen,

This may help:
This is for one file at a time, suppose you want to restore Gdi.exe
that was accidentally deleted to the Bin, to the Windows\system
folder. And assume Windows won't start without it.
Boot to Dos Command Prompt Only and enter these commands
and <enter> after each;
C:
cd\recycled
attrib -r -s -h *.*
DIR /p

You should see the files in the BIN. The files and folders have been
renamed to numbers, e.g. DC###. The extensions have been retained,
as have the dates etc. Look for the file with the EXE extension and
the date you deleted it. Note the file number then enter these;
Copy DC## c:\windows\system\gdi.exe. <enter>
attrib +h *.* <enter>
cd\ <enter>

Don't do anything with the info2 file, that's a binary index.

reboot. <ctrl+alt+del> will do it.

You could copy them all to a Junk folder then sort them out and
rename them later.

Maybe print this, it'll be easier.

Regards,

Bill Watt
Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
New location, some links need to be changed.
Anonymous
April 8, 2005 4:49:01 AM

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Also helps if you first do a Google search on the file name and see if
you can't discover the approximate size the file should be.

--
Gary S. Terhune
MS MVP Shell/User
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm

"Bill Watt" <nobwatt@ptd.net> wrote in message
news:u23c519tg7d5v7u1i39oo3doc3lbah860n@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 7 Apr 2005 23:11:25 -0400, "Galen" <galennews@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In news:qkeb51hobph1bl3485jk3kjmdovvknackv@4ax.com,
> >Bill Watt <nobwatt@ptd.net> had this to say:
> >
> > My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
> >
> >> Deleted files usually have the first letter changed to a special
> >> character and can be overwritten, the ones deleted to the Recycle
> >> Bin are given numbers but retain the extension and file size, so
> >> files with the same name can exist in the same (Recycled) folder.
If
> >> the file size and extension are known a particular file/s in the
Bin
> >> can be recovered using Dos commands if Windows won't start.
> >
> >I snipped out the other stuff. That'd be why I love the newsgroups, I
learn
> >a great deal in here. I'd never known that you could recover them
from DOS
> >like that. I've a bit of a soft spot for odd tweaks and unusual OS
features
> >that are often overlooked. I'm not entirely sure how I'll go about
playing
> >with that one but I'm going to give it a shot on a 98 box probably
tomorrow
> >just because, well, I can.
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Galen
>
> Galen,
>
> This may help:
> This is for one file at a time, suppose you want to restore Gdi.exe
> that was accidentally deleted to the Bin, to the Windows\system
> folder. And assume Windows won't start without it.
> Boot to Dos Command Prompt Only and enter these commands
> and <enter> after each;
> C:
> cd\recycled
> attrib -r -s -h *.*
> DIR /p
>
> You should see the files in the BIN. The files and folders have been
> renamed to numbers, e.g. DC###. The extensions have been retained,
> as have the dates etc. Look for the file with the EXE extension and
> the date you deleted it. Note the file number then enter these;
> Copy DC## c:\windows\system\gdi.exe. <enter>
> attrib +h *.* <enter>
> cd\ <enter>
>
> Don't do anything with the info2 file, that's a binary index.
>
> reboot. <ctrl+alt+del> will do it.
>
> You could copy them all to a Junk folder then sort them out and
> rename them later.
>
> Maybe print this, it'll be easier.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Watt
> Computer Help and Information http://home.ptd.net/~bwatt/
> New location, some links need to be changed.
April 8, 2005 7:57:49 AM

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In news:uK4Ifm$OFHA.3076@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
Gary S. Terhune <grystnews@mvps.org> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:

> Also helps if you first do a Google search on the file name and see if
> you can't discover the approximate size the file should be.

I've been computing since 1981 (Christmas of '80 really) and not one day
goes by where I don't get to learn something new. Actually I'm not sure if
it was 81 or 79 now that I think about it? What year did the 3032 come
out??? God I was young... Not long after I upgraded to the mighty VIC 20.
Anyhow... To this day I still make it a point to ask when I don't know and
state when I'm not too sure of the technical details. Then, for the love of
all that is, I have the audacity to actually TRY these suggestions! I need a
life.

Galen
--
Signature changed for a moment of silence.
Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side.
!