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April 24, 2006 10:34:12 PM

First of all I just want to say I've just found out about this site and I've learned more in 2 days than in the past month of really reasearching parts for my potential rig.

You guys seem to be the real deal and I would greatly value your input.

The box's main purpose is for ripping/backing up my personal DVD collection while simultaneously surfing the web or playing the occasional game. My goal is to try my best to balance performance to price. I don't play many games but when I have time I'd like to do so with as many bells and whistles on with minimal slowdowns / dropped frames (I hope I picked a decent mid-range video card, Mobo, RAM, etc.)

BTW I already have a case...an Antec Full ATX tower with clear side window and a total of six 80mm fans (2 dedicated for inflow blowing over the drives, 2 at theback for outflow, and 2 in the side window blowin out). I also have CD/DVD burner + Floppy (archaic I know but handy).

Your opinions are greatly appreciated. Without further ado, drum roll please:

1. ASUS A8N-E Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $93
2. SAPPHIRE 100134L Radeon X1800XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $309
3. Rosewill RP550S-2MK ATX 2.01 550W Modular Power Supply /Black - Retail
(I INSIST on modular cabling for better asthetics and don't wan't to hassle with extra cables or shrinkwrapping) $90
4. AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 2000MHz HT Socket 939 Dual Core Processor Model $460
5. CORSAIR XMS PRO 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200)
Unbuffered Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWINX2048-3200PRO - Retail (I know I could go cheaper but I like the cheesy LEDs) $249
6. Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM $160 -20Rebate= $140
I will use this soley for Windows, all storage will be on the 250Gigs x2 (Cheaper than one 500Gig drive)
7. Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Hard Drive 16MB Cache- OEM $90each = $180
8. Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 w/Update Rollup Release 2
OEM 1 Pack - OEM $115

Grand Total incl Tax + Shipping is approx $1850 US (All prices from NewEgg Apr 24, 06)

I don't want to spend more than $1900 out the door incl tax/shipping and please let me know if I am missing anything or if their are any known compatibility issues with Mobo/Ram/Vid Card etc.
April 25, 2006 12:15:16 AM

Save 60 dollars and get an opty 170 or get a 165 and save 130. And OCZ runs at 500 mhz. and save 100 on that and just oc clock the proscesser a bit to get it at the 2.2. For the opty 165 just clock it up to what the fsb of 250 and have the ram with no divider. And if you deside to go this way id get a DFI board as they can go higher and are more stable. But yes your system is very nice.
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April 25, 2006 12:19:17 AM

i think you should go with a bit cheaper of ram, you should be able to get 2x1 GB good timings for 180 right? i paid 235 at Christmas time for my OCZ 2-3-2-5's

your call on that 1800xt, i might have chosen a 7900 GT if i could get the same price...you better check benchmarks though


everything else looks good , nice
April 25, 2006 12:23:14 AM

If you're just going to play an occasional game, why the expensive video card? You should consider getting the X2 3800+ to save some money. The only other thing you should consider is getting a different brand power supply; I don't know how good Rosewill PSU's are. Here's a nice OCZ one with modular cabling and all for the same price of that Rosewill one. Same wattage, too. Other than that, the system looks good.
April 25, 2006 1:21:18 AM

I'm no expert, but if you are basing your choices on performance to price, drop the raptor. Having windows boot up a few seconds faster may be important to you, but saving $140 is cool too.
This is just my opinion, based on my limited research. I'm also building a new pc soon. 1) I'm squeezing as much as I can out of $1500, 2) 16mb WD drives perform well enough for me, and 3) I don't care if all the cool kids have raptors. Take that for what it's worth. I DO make a decent martini.
April 25, 2006 2:05:53 AM

All your components are pretty high end. Why cut corners with a Rosewill power supply? Tom's Hardware did an evaluation of power supplies a few months ago, read it and get one that preformed well, in fact here is the link. http://www.tomshardware.com/2005/07/11/stress_test/.
Good luck.

It doesn't seem that your on a budget, but if you are pass on the Raptor and use those funds for a better power supply. All that RAM you are getting will more than compensate for not having a Raptor in most cases.



Good luck.
April 25, 2006 2:17:47 AM

Man! You guys are great!

1) I've never OC'd anything before and have absolutely no experience doing so, however, after reading the New Egg comments on the 4400, I was thinking of trying for the first time...thee 4400 supposed to be easy to OC with decent gains and minimal heat problems...Can I safely OC with the STOCK heatsink? Since I do play the occassional pickup of FEAR, I heard this is a good CPU for games right out of the box. I've also heard that the Opty 170 has better quality but has drop in game performance unless you OC the hell out of it. Also, how are they in comparison to overall multi-tasking against each other? Your thoughts on this?

2) As for the RAM, I know I could spend less for similar quality however (please don't laugh too hard), I've ALWAYS wanted the cheesy LEDs ever since Corsair came out with the darn things (I know I know... all your eyes are rolling skyward)

3) PSU: I definately want modular cabling. I gave a hard long look at the OCZ but read NUMEROUS accounts of failure within the first 2 months or so. It seems like you either get a great one or a lemon and I don't want any headaches. ANTEC was my first choice however it received lukewarm reviews from the NewEggers who bought the 550 True Power II...again anyone have firsthand experience with this? My current rig has the non-sata first gen Antec 550 and I've never had a hiccup.

4) Graphics: I just want a card that when I finally do have time to do a pickup game of whatever, I don't have to worry about crappy performance. I've been on the fence about the x1800 vs 7900gt and have heard differing opinions and the concensus seems to be a toss up. Anyone have these cards?

5) Heat: Since I'm recycling my old case and its fans...does six 80's do the trick with the above CPU/Vid card combo? I'd prefer to leave it as is and there doesn't seem to have any brackets in my current case for 120 fans.

6) Final Thoughts: I know technology changes rapidly and that today's best is tomorrow's kids calcuator, however, what are your guys thoughts on this rig meeting my description needs for the next 2 and possibly 3 full years?

Thanks in advance,
DA
April 25, 2006 2:22:36 AM

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Man! You guys are great!

1) I've never OC'd anything before and have absolutely no experience doing so, however, after reading the New Egg comments on the 4400, I was thinking of trying for the first time...thee 4400 supposed to be easy to OC with decent gains and minimal heat problems...Can I safely OC with the STOCK heatsink? Your thoughts on this?


If you are really going to overclock ditch the 4400+ save money and get an Opteron 165 or 170. The 165 can easily overclock to 4400+ levels with the stock cooler, the 170 can reach a bit higher. The 170 is $60 cheaper, the 165 $100. The Opterons also run cooler and are quality tested better (made to run 24/7/365).
April 25, 2006 2:30:59 AM

six 80 mm fans are going to be insanely loud. i have two 80 mms for my case and its annoying. i would go with a case that can do quiet 120mms. also if your not going to game yet, then just use onboard until you do or buy a cheap grafx card. no point buying the best there is now, for when u plan to game in the future, cuz then its outdated already. also drop the LED RAM and buy a night light for $3 if u really want lights
April 25, 2006 2:42:32 AM

Get Windows XP Pro SP2.
April 25, 2006 2:50:27 AM

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I DO make a decent martini.


I'll have mine dry and please don't spill any on my Raptors. They get kinda cranky when dripping in vermouth. Good advice on the HDs, by the way. Also, I'd go for two optical drives considering the intended use and maybe 3 or 4 of the 250GB HDs. Ripping DVDs tends to fill disc space up fast and although you might not plan to keep an archive on your HDs, sheiit happens. One Raptor costs as much as a 250 plus an optical.
April 25, 2006 2:50:59 AM

Get either the 4200+ or the 3800+ to save some money and get the 1900XT instead. Trust me, the performance different from a 1900XT and a 1800XT is much greater than that of a 3800+ and 4400+.
April 25, 2006 3:04:36 AM

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Get either the 4200+ or the 3800+ to save some money and get the 1900XT instead. Trust me, the performance different from a 1900XT and a 1800XT is much greater than that of a 3800+ and 4400+.


Get the 3800+ and an X1800GTO and RAM without the frickin LED's. That will save you a LOT of cash, which you can use to get some more hard drives.
April 25, 2006 3:07:16 AM

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3) PSU: I definately want modular cabling. I gave a hard long look at the OCZ but read NUMEROUS accounts of failure within the first 2 months or so. It seems like you either get a great one or a lemon and I don't want any headaches. ANTEC was my first choice however it received lukewarm reviews from the NewEggers who bought the 550 True Power II...again anyone have firsthand experience with this? My current rig has the non-sata first gen Antec 550 and I've never had a hiccup.


Enermax Liberty's are modular other than the 24pin mobo and CPU power cables. They come in 3 sizes, up to 620 watts. And I've heard so many good things about the OCZ power supplies, I'd search for reviews elsewhere before worrying too much.

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6) Final Thoughts: I know technology changes rapidly and that today's best is tomorrow's kids calcuator, however, what are your guys thoughts on this rig meeting my description needs for the next 2 and possibly 3 full years?


Don't worry about it too much. If you need to buy now, I'd think a dual core Opteron rig will do you just fine for two to three years, maybe longer with a couple of updates. If you can sit back a few months, you might want to keep a close eye on the Conroes or maybe hold out to see how the next generation AMD CPUs look. But it's too easy to wait for the next best thing and the old, tarnished current crop looks to be pretty fine stuff to me. One thing you can do to partially future-proof is to go with a case that will hold more than you think you need (and I agree that you want a case that takes 12cm fans) and go with a PS that has more output than you think you need. Good luck and most importantly, have fun learning new stuff!
April 25, 2006 3:15:54 AM

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3) PSU: I definately want modular cabling. I gave a hard long look at the OCZ but read NUMEROUS accounts of failure within the first 2 months or so. It seems like you either get a great one or a lemon and I don't want any headaches. ANTEC was my first choice however it received lukewarm reviews from the NewEggers who bought the 550 True Power II...again anyone have firsthand experience with this? My current rig has the non-sata first gen Antec 550 and I've never had a hiccup.


Enermax Liberty's are modular other than the 24pin mobo and CPU power cables. They come in 3 sizes, up to 620 watts. And I've heard so many good things about the OCZ power supplies, I'd search for reviews elsewhere before worrying too much.

Quote:
6) Final Thoughts: I know technology changes rapidly and that today's best is tomorrow's kids calcuator, however, what are your guys thoughts on this rig meeting my description needs for the next 2 and possibly 3 full years?


Don't worry about it too much. If you need to buy now, I'd think a dual core Opteron rig will do you just fine for two to three years, maybe longer with a couple of updates. If you can sit back a few months, you might want to keep a close eye on the Conroes or maybe hold out to see how the next generation AMD CPUs look. But it's too easy to wait for the next best thing and the old, tarnished current crop looks to be pretty fine stuff to me. One thing you can do to partially future-proof is to go with a case that will hold more than you think you need (and I agree that you want a case that takes 12cm fans) and go with a PS that has more output than you think you need. Good luck and most importantly, have fun learning new stuff!
Good advice.
April 25, 2006 3:17:20 AM

CPU: According to THG CPU charts, the 4400 with its 2x1MB L2 caches seems to make a noticeable difference in prolonged CPU intensive activities (such as I would imagine DVD ripping). The only reason I'm going for the 4400 is that it is the entry point for the increased L2 and since I'm not going to upgrade my CPU for AT LEAST 2 years, I thought I'd drop an extra Benjamin for the peace of mind of noticeable performance gains without having to resort to OCing.

PSU: Based on the excellent PSU torture tests on THG I've decided I'm going for the:
Spire RockeTeer V SP-500W ATX12V 500W Power Supply - Retail $100

BTW, thank you for the link to the tests.

GRAPHICS: The benchmarks on THG of the x1800xt vs the x1900xtx for FEAR with all bells and whistles was only 5fps, and I believe the average human eye can't detect differences in frame rate above 38 (it's been a long time since Med School so I might be wrong on the stat), so the point is moot isn't it? Can someone clarify this?

CASE: I can't ditch this case because I spent $900 on a smoothcreations custom paint job and I absolutely love it! Is there a way to post pix?

RAM: Gotta have the LEDs...the cheesy side of me can't let it go...and even with the RAM I stay under budget of 19 Benjamins.
April 25, 2006 3:46:50 AM

For some reason, I wouldn't spend money on buying expensive 2x1GB RAM DDR when it's about to go obsolete. I mean, AM2 is coming in a month mate, why not wait a little and see how it performs ? You can then make your AM2 build, it'll last for quite a while, and if you decide to go for Conroe or AMD's 'Conroe Killer' CPU, the RAM will still be useful.

Just a thought.
April 25, 2006 4:09:57 AM

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For some reason, I wouldn't spend money on buying expensive 2x1GB RAM DDR when it's about to go obsolete. I mean, AM2 is coming in a month mate, why not wait a little and see how it performs ? You can then make your AM2 build, it'll last for quite a while, and if you decide to go for Conroe or AMD's 'Conroe Killer' CPU, the RAM will still be useful.

Just a thought.


If he wants a computer now, then he should go ahead and buy the DDR. If he wants 2x1MB cache for cheap, he should get an Opteron 165.
April 25, 2006 5:17:45 AM

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For some reason, I wouldn't spend money on buying expensive 2x1GB RAM DDR when it's about to go obsolete. I mean, AM2 is coming in a month mate, why not wait a little and see how it performs ? You can then make your AM2 build, it'll last for quite a while, and if you decide to go for Conroe or AMD's 'Conroe Killer' CPU, the RAM will still be useful.

Just a thought.


If he wants a computer now, then he should go ahead and buy the DDR. If he wants 2x1MB cache for cheap, he should get an Opteron 165.

One cool thing about the Opty option is that... It's cooler! The ~0.05 less volts that the Opty runs at stock (compared to a 4400+) means the Opty really run cooler. I've got a 4400+ myself, so I can fully appreciate where the OP is coming from. But if I had it to do over, I would pop the additonal $46 bucks and get an Opty 175. And if I'm not mistaken, the 175 will OC more than the 4400+ will, right?
April 25, 2006 2:18:09 PM

So now I'm down to deciding between the 4400 and the Opty 170 (I think it has a 10x multiplier and was told this is generally easier on calculations for OC).

Does the difference in Hyperthreading 2000MHz HT in the 4400 and only 1000MHz in the Opty 170 make an difference in real world everyday CPU intensive or multi-tasking tasks?

I'ms still not sure if I'm gonna OC since I have no experience doing so. If so, I think I'm better of with the 4400.
April 25, 2006 6:41:40 PM

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So now I'm down to deciding between the 4400 and the Opty 170 (I think it has a 10x multiplier and was told this is generally easier on calculations for OC).

Does the difference in Hyperthreading 2000MHz HT in the 4400 and only 1000MHz in the Opty 170 make an difference in real world everyday CPU intensive or multi-tasking tasks?

I'ms still not sure if I'm gonna OC since I have no experience doing so. If so, I think I'm better of with the 4400.


With AMD's, HT means HyperTransport, which acts like a FSB, rather than meaning HyperThreading as it does with Intel.
April 25, 2006 11:47:45 PM

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For some reason, I wouldn't spend money on buying expensive 2x1GB RAM DDR when it's about to go obsolete. I mean, AM2 is coming in a month mate, why not wait a little and see how it performs ? You can then make your AM2 build, it'll last for quite a while, and if you decide to go for Conroe or AMD's 'Conroe Killer' CPU, the RAM will still be useful.

Just a thought.


The THG preview of AM2 with DDR2 said it doesn't make much difference at all at this point (if I interpreted it right). Since DDR2 has been out already for awhile, I don't think my Corsair RAM (with the LEDS :lol:  will be much cheaper in a month).

Also if I wait for AM2 don't I also have to wait for AM2 supported MOBOs? I'd prefer to have my computer in 1 month max and I feel that is waaaaay to short of a time to try out first gen build MOBO while the current 939 MOBOs have been through the scrutiny of real world usage and time.

Am I right on this?

As for the Hypertransport (thanks angry ducky for the clarification) difference of 1000MHz on the Opty and 2000MHz on the 4400, am I right to think I should see NOTICEABLE gains head to head if I don't overclock?
April 26, 2006 2:18:55 AM

bleeding edge technology NEVER pans out to something cost effective. It's great to have the newest of new, like with am2 but do you want to be the test rat or should I say, do you want your hard earned dollars being the test subject? I say nay, go with proven methods, leading edge is great, but once you hit the top of the top, newest of the new, you will be surprised how rushed technology is, to met deadlines for investors.
Never pans out...

S
April 27, 2006 12:59:57 AM

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The THG preview of AM2 with DDR2 said it doesn't make much difference at all at this point (if I interpreted it right). Since DDR2 has been out already for awhile, I don't think my Corsair RAM (with the LEDS :lol:  will be much cheaper in a month).

Also if I wait for AM2 don't I also have to wait for AM2 supported MOBOs? I'd prefer to have my computer in 1 month max and I feel that is waaaaay to short of a time to try out first gen build MOBO while the current 939 MOBOs have been through the scrutiny of real world usage and time.

Am I right on this?


I think AM2 motherboard should be available at or soon after the release date for the new AM2 CPUs (May 23th?). But as it always happens, motherboards will have some bugs, probably crappy BIOS and stuff. I'd still recommend making an AM2 build over a 939 build. Mostly because I don't want to see anyone buying 1 or 2 GB of RAM he'll never use again.

Even tho the diference in performance is not much between 939 and AM2, I bet new, more powerful processors will come out later, which will start to take full advantage of the new socket. Same applies to motherboards, new chipsets will come out and improve the overall system performace.
April 27, 2006 1:54:18 AM

I've decided not to go skimpy on the vid card and decided to get the:

SAPPHIRE 100149SR Radeon X1900XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail $450 with a $20 Mail in Rebate.

In keeping on budget I am considering dropping the Corsair LED RAM 8O . Any suggestions on super high quality RAM for my above build?

Thanks
April 27, 2006 2:15:25 AM

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The box's main purpose is for ripping/backing up my personal DVD collection ...

I don't want to spend more than $1900 out the door incl tax/shipping ...


Are you pulling our legs? Don't you mean rip off rented dvds from Blockbuster or Netflix? Come on you can tell us the truth.

You must be insane to spend $1900 to back up your personal dvd collection. You can re-buy the few dvds you already have for a whole lot less than what you will spend on a "copyright infringement engine". Like I said earlier, you can tell us the real truth for the computer. We won't tell.

Is it possible he is just window shopping. $1900. LOL. I really hope you do buy.
April 27, 2006 2:26:06 AM

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The box's main purpose is for ripping/backing up my personal DVD collection ...

I don't want to spend more than $1900 out the door incl tax/shipping ...


Are you pulling our legs? Don't you mean rip off rented dvds from Blockbuster or Netflix? Come on you can tell us the truth.

You must be insane to spend $1900 to back up your personal dvd collection. You can re-buy the few dvds you already have for a whole lot less than what you will spend on a "copyright infringement engine". Like I said earlier, you can tell us the real truth for the computer. We won't tell.

Is it possible he is just window shopping. $1900. LOL. I really hope you do buy.


geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzz!
April 27, 2006 2:51:55 AM

If you're going Corsair

Drop the Corsair LED RAM... performance over fancy stuff, remember ?
April 27, 2006 3:08:24 AM

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If you're going Corsair

Drop the Corsair LED RAM... performance over fancy stuff, remember ?


Hey Thanks Vile! That squeezed me just under budget to $1,879.02. As for performance, isn't the LED RAM equal/similar in performace to your suggested RAM...how can you tell the difference? They are both 400 PC3200 aren't they?

I'm still on the fence about the cool LED RAM :D  (I really having been wanting those cheesy LEDs since Corsair came out with it and I think it will complement all the little touches I've done to try to bling my build: cold cathode, UV light, lighted fans, smoothcreations custom painted case, etc).

What's your guys thoughts on killing the Raptor in favor of a SATA 3.0 drive soley for Windows and programs so I can stay on budget but keep the LED RAM?

Since I am keeping this build for AT LEAST 2 full years (hopefully 3) with no changes, I really want to be certain (as much as I can be) before dropping the bills.

Thanks again :p 
April 28, 2006 2:54:03 AM

Here's the FINAL configuration that I ordered from NewEgg today. I'd like to really thank all of you who gave useful input. Now I'm like a kid waiting to open his presents on X-Mas...now just gotta find some time to put the rig together when all the parts finally come in.

I did go $53 over budget for parts not including the case, but I just couldn't let go of the cheesy Corsair LED RAM. :p 

1. ASUS A8N-E Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail $91
2. AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Toledo 2000MHz HT Socket
939 Dual Core Processor Model ADA4400CDBOX - Retail $460

3. Spire RockeTeer V SP-500W ATX12V 500W Power Supply - Retail $100
4. CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered
Dual Channel Kit System Memory Model TWINX2048-3200C2PRO - Retail $234

5. Western Digital Raptor WD740GD 74GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
(Strictly for OS and programs) OEM $130
6. Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD2500KS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Hard Drive - OEM (16MB Cache) each $90 x2 (For storage) $180

7.SAPPHIRE 100149SR Radeon X1900XT 512MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16
Video Card - Retail $459
8.Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 w/Update Rollup
Release 2 OEM 1 Pack - OEM $115

Subtotal = $1799 + $130 tax + $24 shipping

Total = $1953 (parts from NewEgg) + $900 on a custom smoothcreations hand-painted case

Grand Total $2853


I know it cost a pretty penny but I'm gonna stick with the above configuration for at least 2 solid years (hopefully 3).

Again, Thanks a million!
April 28, 2006 3:05:22 AM

I dunno... It's kinda your call there, but you can save around 130 dollars if you go for the RAM I posted

Are you planning on OCing at all ?

Hell, if you really really want the fancy stuff, go for it, whatever floats your boat lol
April 28, 2006 3:06:53 AM

Xd Have fun putting it together ! :wink:
April 28, 2006 3:31:03 AM

Ok - I guess I'm gonna be the only one to say it:

DUDE - you are spending that kinda cash on a system and saying you want it for about 2 years...yea well - great. Max lifetime is usually 3 years, hell that's how overclocking pretty much started..

but $500 bucks on a custom paintjob and extra $$$ for blinky lights?
Please don't take this wrong, but I have to wonder - what exactly do you do to afford such frivilious things? I mean, heck it's much better than blowing your cash on stupid stuff like most of the kids out there so I applaud you on that! BUT WOW - if this is your parents cash, you should give them a BIG freaking hug, or if it's yours, give your boss a big freaking hug lol.

One thing is for sure, YOU BETTER POST SOME PICS WHEN YOUR SYSTEM IS BUILT!!!!!!!

(end jealousy) ;) 

S
April 28, 2006 3:52:58 AM

I don't know anything about rosewill powersupplys other then that the system looks nice.....Enermax makes a modular cable powersupply its the liberty series.
April 28, 2006 4:04:39 AM

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Ok - I guess I'm gonna be the only one to say it:

DUDE - you are spending that kinda cash on a system and saying you want it for about 2 years...yea well - great. Max lifetime is usually 3 years, hell that's how overclocking pretty much started..

but $500 bucks on a custom paintjob and extra $$$ for blinky lights?
Please don't take this wrong, but I have to wonder - what exactly do you do to afford such frivilious things? I mean, heck it's much better than blowing your cash on stupid stuff like most of the kids out there so I applaud you on that! BUT WOW - if this is your parents cash, you should give them a BIG freaking hug, or if it's yours, give your boss a big freaking hug lol.

One thing is for sure, YOU BETTER POST SOME PICS WHEN YOUR SYSTEM IS BUILT!!!!!!!

(end jealousy) ;) 

S


:D  Well if I amortorize the cost strictly over 2 years that works out to a measly $4 a day...some people spend more on coffee at Starbucks and get much less satisfaction out of it.

As for OCing, I know absolutely nothing about OCing. Unfortunately, the posts here for which settings for my RAM, GPU, etc specific for my particular parts is difficult to decipher legit info from speculation...and frankly, I don't have much time to spare figuring the settings out myself so I think I'll just stay stock for the next 2 years.

As for what I do...I am a cardio-thoracic surgeon. I could have easily bought top of the line Falcon Northwest etc. without blinking an eye but get great satisfaction in knowing (and learning) about things like building my own rigs. I was originally and seriously considering a $7000 rig from Falcon, that's what got me started on thinking on building my own rig and ultimately led me here. I made a personal bet that I could build a very decent system with all the cool bling I wanted for about $3k.

As for posting a pic...how come this site doesn't have an "Upload" feature on the posts? How do I post a pic of my rig...

Hell, if this place had an "Off Topic" section, I'd post pics of my 2002 Comptech Acura NSX and 1999 Ferrari 355 Spyder and my 2000 Lamborghini Diablo, to boot (all bought used...remember it's not what you earn but what you keep!) What can I say...I LOVE cars and Gadgets. I am an avid stock investor and if they ever do make an off topic I will gladly share what I've learned. Please, before anyone might bash me for excess please note: I went through the school of hard knocks and seriously paid some heavy dues to get where I am today. I grew up dirt poor, raised partly on welfare. If it wasn't for the hard devotion of my mother working 2 jobs to make sure I had the great schooling opportunities and her undying love and support, I'd never be where I am today. So take a second out of your day and hug your mom. :D 
April 28, 2006 5:08:15 AM

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As for posting a pic...how come this site doesn't have an "Upload" feature on the posts? How do I post a pic of my rig...



Use the IMG button on the post and link it to another place on the web. There are tons of places that offer free hosting. Forums don't offer uploading due to bandwidth/size. Images suck bandwidth like crazy when you have 256,353,359 of them posted.
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